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Post by Crosser on Feb 27, 2023 16:46:55 GMT -5
Let me play devil's advocate. Gates played more minutes, so he should accumulate more stats. Compiling numbers because his coach can't recruit or keep a bench shouldn't mean that Gates should benefit from a recognition standpoint. You might say the team has to rely on Gates more as a result? Fair... but the team is not actually doing well, so what do those contributions achieve from an W/L perspective? Dudz was 1st team All-PL when HC was in 3rd place. Now HC is in 9/10th place, and sporting the lowest winning percentage in the conference. You can think Gates deserves it. I can think Gates deserves it. Much like many of you say the PL is holding HC back, this year, HC held Gates back. I guarantee every coach who votes would say, there's no chance that a team with a .323 winning percentage has one of the best five players in the league. On the other hand, the fact that he was playing so many minutes clearly wore him down at the back half of the season and certainly led to him not being as productive as he could have been with some typical rest. And Gates was 2nd in total minutes - by 1 minute - to .... Tucker Richardson! Why did Tucker have to play so many minutes on such a dominant team?
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Post by hchoops on Feb 27, 2023 17:01:13 GMT -5
Easier to play fewer minutes when your team has legitimate subs. What Gates accomplished considering he had to play big minutes for HC to have a chance was far more demanding.
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Feb 27, 2023 17:08:17 GMT -5
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 27, 2023 17:08:17 GMT -5
Per 40 minutes . . .
PTS REB ASS
Records 21.7 10.6 2.1 Deaver 19.5 9.9 4.1 Rucker 19.5 5.1 4.3 Richardson 16.6 5.8 6.2
Higgins 18.8 3.5 2.2
GATES 18.7 9.9 3.3
Higgins out, Gates in. That was easy.
Hey, we can do this all day - Offensive/Defensive Ratings (looking at you, KY), Usage Percentages, Efficiency Ratings. Good way to kill some time.
Comes out the same. Gerrale Gates is one of the best five players in this league.
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Feb 27, 2023 17:18:56 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Feb 27, 2023 17:18:56 GMT -5
Records is certainly deserving, but with a strong backup in Woodward, played only 23.2 mpg. Those 40 minute stats for him are misleading. Similar to Zack Edey last season playing behind Trevor Williams, received few honors despite great per 40 numbers. Playing big minutes is a tribute to ability, and should not be a hindrance to honors.
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Feb 27, 2023 17:23:04 GMT -5
Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 27, 2023 17:23:04 GMT -5
O-Rating (Pomeroy) in conference games:
Rucker – 105.9 Records – 130.2 Richardson – 99.3 Higgins – 118.1 Deaver –112.6 Gates – 91.7
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Feb 27, 2023 17:24:45 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Feb 27, 2023 17:24:45 GMT -5
Again, Records’ numbers are really skewed by his 23.2 mpg
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Feb 27, 2023 17:26:23 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Feb 27, 2023 17:26:23 GMT -5
O-Rating (Pomeroy) in conference games: Rucker – 105.9 Records – 130.2 Richardson – 99.3 Higgins – 118.1 Deaver –112.6 Gates – 91.7 Yet Pomeroy wisely chose GG on his all PL 5.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 27, 2023 17:28:39 GMT -5
How about this for a guy who played as many minutes as Gates and who was the target of opposing teams trying to neutralize him: he fouled out of no games and averaged only 2 PF per 40 minutes while drawing 4.9 fouls.
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Feb 27, 2023 17:39:53 GMT -5
Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 27, 2023 17:39:53 GMT -5
Efficiency Rating, PL Rank Records, 1st Deaver, 3rd GATES, 7th
Higgins, 10th Richardson, 14th Rucker, 17th
Your turn.
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Feb 27, 2023 18:07:37 GMT -5
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 27, 2023 18:07:37 GMT -5
One could argue his stats might not have been much different had he played 5-6 fewer minutes a game.
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Feb 27, 2023 18:09:31 GMT -5
Post by trimster on Feb 27, 2023 18:09:31 GMT -5
One could argue his stats might not have been much different had he played 5-6 fewer minutes a game. Must be a really deep league if a guy with GG’s stats can’t make first team.
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Feb 27, 2023 20:18:11 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Feb 27, 2023 20:18:11 GMT -5
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Feb 27, 2023 21:16:56 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Feb 27, 2023 21:16:56 GMT -5
Total BS.
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Feb 28, 2023 9:28:14 GMT -5
Post by WCHC Sports on Feb 28, 2023 9:28:14 GMT -5
Listen, I'm not disagreeing. I am a homer. But, the guy who played all the minutes on one team that was a "dominant" team as Crosser says, Richardson, made All PL. The guy who played all the minutes on a doormat team, did not.
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