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Post by Non Alum Dave on Apr 29, 2024 14:10:24 GMT -5
This would be a first for Langel, right?
If he goes it's a crushing blow for the league. It's just very depressing.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 29, 2024 14:20:42 GMT -5
The other option, or reality, is to build the NIL to provide modest payments where needed. With our recruiting class coming in, this will be a growing issue for HC football and basketball moving forward.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Apr 29, 2024 14:20:55 GMT -5
It was a great game while it lasted.
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Post by notjuanjones on Apr 29, 2024 14:41:58 GMT -5
This would be a first for Langel, right? If he goes it's a crushing blow for the league. It's just very depressing. I cannot remember him losing an underclassman of anything approaching this magnitude. This is NOT GOOD for the PL.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 29, 2024 14:49:34 GMT -5
It was a great game while it lasted.
The game will outlast us all. The balance between payment and value will be found. Donating money to NIL is not like giving to Father Flanagan's Boys Town or St. Jude's Hospital. College athletes are generally not orphans and by definition almost never severely disabled. An equilibrium will be established. Fools and their money will still be parted but there won't be enough of them to totally change the face of the Patriot League and other fine low-mid major leagues. I don't think. The proposition is new and exciting in a way but I don't think it makes enough sense long term to re-make college sports. Having said that, nothing but appreciation for those who are giving time or money to help Holy Cross compete in any way they do. I see eventual practical application at a Holy Cross as giving student athletes opportunities to promote businesses without a huge amount of padding in compensation for actual value received by the business. Could be wrong, of course.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Apr 29, 2024 15:02:12 GMT -5
Does Smith project to be a high major prospect? Just how big of a bag will he warrant?
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Post by Tom on Apr 29, 2024 15:07:17 GMT -5
this is a huge deal for the league if he follows through on it. This is huge, indeed. I’m guessing he figures he can score some meaningful NIL $$$ at another school looking for a proven point guard For a kid coming out of the Patriot League, what are "meaningful" NIL dollars? 10K per year? 50K per year?
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Post by Tom on Apr 29, 2024 15:16:23 GMT -5
It was a great game while it lasted.
The game will outlast us all. The balance between payment and value will be found. Donating money to NIL is not like giving to Father Flanagan's Boys Town or St. Jude's Hospital. College athletes are generally not orphans and by definition almost never severely disabled. An equilibrium will be established. Fools and their money will still be parted but there won't be enough of them to totally change the face of the Patriot League and other fine low-mid major leagues. I don't think. The proposition is new and exciting in a way but I don't think it makes enough sense long term to re-make college sports. Having said that, nothing but appreciation for those who are giving time or money to help Holy Cross compete in any way they do. I see eventual practical application at a Holy Cross as giving student athletes opportunities to promote businesses without a huge amount of padding in compensation for actual value received by the business. Could be wrong, of course. The nature of the Patriot League (and probably other low major leagues) is such that I don't think there will be really big NIL payments. It's pretty contrary to the mission of the league. That being said, the schools or the league have no control over outside groups that give the kids cash. The face of the Patriot League will change that it will be harder to pull off upsets if the kids in the league are getting reasonable NIL payments while higher ranked leagues give out unreasonably large payouts and entice the best players (like a Braeden Smith) to bolt
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 29, 2024 15:26:36 GMT -5
If he is leaving strictly because he wants NIL money I should think it would take more than $10K to entice him.
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Post by bison137 on Apr 29, 2024 15:30:18 GMT -5
Does Smith project to be a high major prospect? Just how big of a bag will he warrant? he will definitely get a number of P6 offers.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 29, 2024 15:36:22 GMT -5
$125 is the rumor
Might get $ 75k
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Post by cfrivals on Apr 29, 2024 16:43:32 GMT -5
PL will be FCS or D2
FB HC needs to get out ASAP BB they need to decide
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Post by efg72 on Apr 29, 2024 16:48:44 GMT -5
Honestly PL should no longer exist
Find a new conference that meets the needs of our student athletes and by any standard today, this conference is not our FUTURE in any sport
If it is we have waived the flag and says we quit
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Post by trimster on Apr 29, 2024 18:03:09 GMT -5
Portal hits 1900. Now at 1907.
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Post by notjuanjones on Apr 29, 2024 18:32:35 GMT -5
This is huge, indeed. I’m guessing he figures he can score some meaningful NIL $$$ at another school looking for a proven point guard For a kid coming out of the Patriot League, what are "meaningful" NIL dollars? 10K per year? 50K per year? He's not just an ordinary player transferring from the PL. He was the conference's player of the year, and has two years left. Six figures, minimum, whether it's from a P6 school or slightly lower (Mountain West, A-10, MVC, maybe others).
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Post by hchoops on Apr 29, 2024 18:36:16 GMT -5
For a kid coming out of the Patriot League, what are "meaningful" NIL dollars? 10K per year? 50K per year? He's not just an ordinary player transferring from the PL. He was the conference's player of the year, and has two years left. Six figures, minimum, whether it's from a P6 school or slightly lower (Mountain West, A-10, MVC, maybe others). Agree It is obscene, but that is the state of college hoops today.
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Post by Tom on Apr 29, 2024 20:12:31 GMT -5
For a kid coming out of the Patriot League, what are "meaningful" NIL dollars? 10K per year? 50K per year? He's not just an ordinary player transferring from the PL. He was the conference's player of the year, and has two years left. Six figures, minimum, whether it's from a P6 school or slightly lower (Mountain West, A-10, MVC, maybe others). Wow - Is that where we are today? Six figure minimums from mid majors. I wonder how many of the programs making those payments bring in that kind of money
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Post by dharry13 on Apr 29, 2024 20:15:52 GMT -5
Gabe Warren from Rice committed to HC
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Post by bison137 on Apr 29, 2024 20:18:08 GMT -5
He's not just an ordinary player transferring from the PL. He was the conference's player of the year, and has two years left. Six figures, minimum, whether it's from a P6 school or slightly lower (Mountain West, A-10, MVC, maybe others). Wow - Is that where we are today? Six figure minimums from mid majors. I wonder how many of the programs making those payments bring in that kind of money we are not really talking about that kind of money being given out by mid majors, but rather by top 10 conferences. And Smith will be one of their more highly sought after prospects. Not every one of the players in those conferences is going to make six figures.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 29, 2024 20:39:57 GMT -5
I suspect NIL won't create much more money available to college athletics but probably will even out to borrowing from Peter (donations to the athletic department) to pay Paul (money paid directly to students). Maybe it will end up in more minor sports being dropped at more colleges to offset the drop in donations to athletic departments. NIL requiring after tax payments (except by businesses) exasperates the issue and shrinks the overall pie available.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 30, 2024 6:16:21 GMT -5
Does Smith project to be a high major prospect? Just how big of a bag will he warrant? He belongs on Purdue with the other Braden Smith, doesn't he? (yes, the first names are spelled differently).
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Post by trimster on Apr 30, 2024 6:51:17 GMT -5
Just read that a really solid program like Dayton has had 5 players enter the portal this Spring and has had 19 go portaling that their coach Anthony Grant has recruited in the last 6 years.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 30, 2024 7:10:42 GMT -5
So we're basically going from the era where the bigs were dominated by "one and dones" to the entire 360+ schools in the same boat. Swell.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 30, 2024 7:12:58 GMT -5
TJ Power’s evaluation from The Athletic Power was a five-star prospect who struggled to make the rotation at Duke, which isn’t all that unusual. We’ve seen highly touted guys go to Duke in the past and then ended up starring elsewhere. Semi Ojeleye comes to mind. At Duke, Power was basically just a spot-up shooter. He was much more as a high-schooler. Power was one of the best scorers on the Nike EBYL Circuit and showed the ability to score from all three levels. He could put it on the deck and excelled in the mid-range with pull-up jumpers. He has a solid handle for a guy his size with the ability to go either direction. He was also an elite prospect in baseball as a power lefty pitcher. He shoots right-handed. It wouldn’t be surprising to see Power eventually emerge as a primary option wherever he lands next. Expect high-majors who missed last time to try to get back in the mix. — Sam Vecenie For what it's worth, I'm seeing a site that's predicting he's going to BC. Would make sense given his family relationship to the BC basketball program.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 30, 2024 7:18:14 GMT -5
If Power has NBA in his sights, I doubt he will go to bc
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