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Post by purplehaze on Aug 2, 2023 12:58:27 GMT -5
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Post by alum on Aug 2, 2023 13:12:42 GMT -5
Last year they had 55 freshmen. This year they have 36 sophs.
Looking at the roster, a large percentage attended MAPS.
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Post by football44 on Aug 2, 2023 13:28:53 GMT -5
This is now how the Army, Navy and Air Force draft their future warriors. No longer do we have a draft. Just put all these guys on the football team and go around and play Power 5 schools all over the country. So much for supporting Patriot League football.
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 2, 2023 14:07:20 GMT -5
Last year they had 55 freshmen. This year they have 36 sophs. Looking at the roster, a large percentage attended MAPS. 49 US Military Academy Prep School |
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 2, 2023 14:52:00 GMT -5
No recruits from the six New England states. Yet they play three teams from Massachusetts this year. After gliding past BC and UMass the Black Knights will be underestimating the Purple ones, a perfect set up.
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Post by hc69 on Aug 2, 2023 19:54:12 GMT -5
This is now how the Army, Navy and Air Force draft their future warriors. No longer do we have a draft. Just put all these guys on the football team and go around and play Power 5 schools all over the country. So much for supporting Patriot League football. This makes no sense whatsoever. What does the draft have to do with anything? No one has ever been drafted into a service academy. A gratuitous insult aimed at the service academies does nothing but piss off those of us that are former military officers. It says more about you than it does about them. |
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Post by HC92 on Aug 2, 2023 20:01:32 GMT -5
Last year they had 55 freshmen. This year they have 36 sophs. Looking at the roster, a large percentage attended MAPS. 49 US Military Academy Prep School Last year, they introduced 68 members of the Class of ‘26 in an early summer press release. Of those, 44 went through MAPS. A year later, 37 of the 68 kids are on the roster as sophs. 24 of the 44 MAPS kids are still on the roster. |
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 2, 2023 20:14:53 GMT -5
49 US Military Academy Prep School A high school classmate of mine has a son who was at MAPS last year and is listed as a Frosh on thei West Point roster this year. Are the guys attending MAPS this year also listed as freshmen on the current West Point roster? yes,,, but it appears that MAPS doesn't list football (unless it is intramural/company competition), but it does list competitive weightlifting lifting. |
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Post by HC92 on Aug 2, 2023 20:21:59 GMT -5
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Post by football44 on Aug 3, 2023 4:52:59 GMT -5
This is now how the Army, Navy and Air Force draft their future warriors. No longer do we have a draft. Just put all these guys on the football team and go around and play Power 5 schools all over the country. So much for supporting Patriot League football. This makes no sense whatsoever. What does the draft have to do with anything? No one has ever been drafted into a service academy. A gratuitous insult aimed at the service academies does nothing but piss off those of us that are former military officers. It says more about you than it does about them. Sorry 69 my comment was not intended to insult the military. As an ex player who many years ago was recruited by West Point I understand what an honor it is for these kids to play at West Point. That being said these kids know that if they stay the full four years they are going to serve our country. Possibly in war. So again I respect your service just understand that this is a way for many to eventually serve our country. |
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 3, 2023 5:56:03 GMT -5
USMAPS players seems to be a freshman team that has been red shirted for the D-1 roster |
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Post by HC92 on Aug 3, 2023 6:54:36 GMT -5
USMAPS players seems to be a freshman team that has been red shirted for the D-1 roster Yes, I think that is basically what happens here. Go to MAPS for a year, get bigger/faster/stronger, become a freshman the next year on the West Point team. |
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Post by matunuck on Aug 3, 2023 7:39:53 GMT -5
I graduated from USMAPS. Played baseball there, in fact. It is definitely a pipeline for football and other sports but also much more. The academics are taken very seriously, and I knew several players who failed to graduate. MAPS and the other academy prep schools are also landing spots for very promising enlisted soldiers who have been out of high school for awhile and need an academic refresher. My class had several Rangers in it. These schools are also extremely helpful in broadening the pool of students from underprivileged backgrounds to help prepare them to successfully navigate the academic/mil load at the academies.
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 3, 2023 8:46:03 GMT -5
USMAPS players seems to be a freshman team that has been red shirted for the D-1 roster Yes, I think that is basically what happens here. Go to MAPS for a year, get bigger/faster/stronger, become a freshman the next year on the West Point team. So some of the offers from the service academies might be offers to enroll in MAPS? |
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 3, 2023 8:51:58 GMT -5
I graduated from USMAPS. Played baseball there, in fact. It is definitely a pipeline for football and other sports but also much more. The academics are taken very seriously, and I knew several players who failed to graduate. MAPS and the other academy prep schools are also landing spots for very promising enlisted soldiers who have been out of high school for awhile and need an academic refresher. My class had several Rangers in it. These schools are also extremely helpful in broadening the pool of students from underprivileged backgrounds to help prepare them to successfully navigate the academic/mil load at the academies. does MAPS involve an enlistment obligation for non-service members? |
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Post by matunuck on Aug 3, 2023 9:33:06 GMT -5
Not when I was there. Could be different today. Most who graduated ended up at WP, while the rest went on to civilian colleges with a number participating in ROTC programs. There weren't required to do so but wanted to combine both worlds so to speak.
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 3, 2023 9:59:10 GMT -5
Not when I was there. Could be different today. Most who graduated ended up at WP, while the rest went on to civilian colleges with a number participating in ROTC programs. There weren't required to do so but wanted to combine both worlds so to speak. For NROTC, enlistment obligation does not attach until sophomore year enrollment... i.e. 4 yr scholarships get 1 yr 'free look' including the summer cruise. For 3 & 2 yr scholarships mids (i.e. after 1 or 2 yrs in program/non-scholarship) the obligation attaches upon enrollment. so far this year, 8 HC* NROTC non-scholarship mids (i.e. rising Sophs & Jrs) have applied for scholarships; 4 Marine Options have been awarded scholarships via the Corps' selection process. The Navy selection is still in process. *not sure how many are Holy Cross students, probably the majority. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 3, 2023 11:35:12 GMT -5
No recruits from the six New England states. Yet they play three teams from Massachusetts this year. After gliding past BC and UMass the Black Knights will be underestimating the Purple ones, a perfect set up. I just got an ad on Facebook from Army West Point talking about the three games against Massachusetts schools.  |
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 5, 2023 6:01:12 GMT -5
for military purposes 'Quantity has a Quality of its own',,, for football as well |
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Post by hc69 on Aug 5, 2023 12:27:09 GMT -5
for military purposes 'Quantity has a Quality of its own',,, for football as well Most of them are walk-ons. At the service academies everyone must play a sport, either intercollegiate or organized club. For that reason rosters sizes are not limited. MBB, for example, has 26 on it. |
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Post by bison137 on Aug 5, 2023 13:52:33 GMT -5
Yes, I think that is basically what happens here. Go to MAPS for a year, get bigger/faster/stronger, become a freshman the next year on the West Point team. So some of the offers from the service academies might be offers to enroll in MAPS? Most of them are. |
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Post by bison137 on Aug 5, 2023 13:54:45 GMT -5
for military purposes 'Quantity has a Quality of its own',,, for football as well Most of them are walk-ons. At the service academies everyone must play a sport, either intercollegiate or organized club. For that reason rosters sizes are not limited. MBB, for example, has 26 on it. And don't forget that Army also has a JV basketball team that has more players. In total, I would guess they roster at least 40. |
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 5, 2023 13:55:30 GMT -5
for military purposes 'Quantity has a Quality of its own',,, for football as well Most of them are walk-ons. At the service academies everyone must play a sport, either intercollegiate or organized club. For that reason rosters sizes are not limited. MBB, for example, has 26 on it. An older kid in my neighborhood went to MIT in the early to mid sixties. At the time all MIT students had to be able to swim and pass a swimming test to graduate. It was explained as one way to get MIT students out of an egghead bubble they were stereotyped to be in. HC students had to attend Mass. Prep School students had to attend Saturday morning classes. These days things are left up to students more which may or not be better. |
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Post by bison137 on Aug 5, 2023 13:57:57 GMT -5
I graduated from USMAPS. Played baseball there, in fact. It is definitely a pipeline for football and other sports but also much more. The academics are taken very seriously, and I knew several players who failed to graduate. MAPS and the other academy prep schools are also landing spots for very promising enlisted soldiers who have been out of high school for awhile and need an academic refresher. My class had several Rangers in it. These schools are also extremely helpful in broadening the pool of students from underprivileged backgrounds to help prepare them to successfully navigate the academic/mil load at the academies. does MAPS involve an enlistment obligation for non-service members? No. The first service obligation for those at West Point normally doesn't begin until one starts junior year. There are a number of former PL football players, btw, who did a year at MAPS or NAPS. College coaches can recruit MAPS/NAPS athletes the same way they recruit anyone at any prep school. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 6, 2023 19:43:48 GMT -5
for military purposes 'Quantity has a Quality of its own',,, for football as well Most of them are walk-ons. At the service academies everyone must play a sport, either intercollegiate or organized club. For that reason rosters sizes are not limited. MBB, for example, has 26 on it. Army also has a SPRINT football team. |
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