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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 11, 2023 18:58:36 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 11, 2023 19:19:42 GMT -5
May his soul rest in peace and his loved ones find some comfort as they deal with this loss.
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necfbfan
Climbing Mt. St. James
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Post by necfbfan on Aug 12, 2023 18:51:08 GMT -5
So, when do we address the obvious elephant in the room, or do we keep sweeping it under the rug? That is two elite teenage basketball players each suffering heart attacks in under two months. This is not normal nor is it precedented, as far as I can recall.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 12, 2023 20:07:36 GMT -5
So, when do we address the obvious elephant in the room, or do we keep sweeping it under the rug? That is two elite teenage basketball players each suffering heart attacks in under two months. This is not normal nor is it precedented, as far as I can recall. "Sudden cardiac death is the most common cause of death in young athletes. The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP)—using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)—estimates that about 2,000 individuals younger than age 25 die each year of sudden cardiac arrest in the United States." www.yalemedicine.org/news/should-high-school-athletes-get-preseason-cardiac-screenings
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Post by HC92 on Aug 12, 2023 20:13:19 GMT -5
So, when do we address the obvious elephant in the room, or do we keep sweeping it under the rug? That is two elite teenage basketball players each suffering heart attacks in under two months. This is not normal nor is it precedented, as far as I can recall. "Sudden cardiac death is the most common cause of death in young athletes. The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP)—using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)—estimates that about 2,000 individuals younger than age 25 die each year of sudden cardiac arrest in the United States." www.yalemedicine.org/news/should-high-school-athletes-get-preseason-cardiac-screeningsIs there any reliable data anywhere that would tell us whether sudden cardiac arrests among young people have gone up since everyone started taking Covid vaccines? Seems like we hear about more of them lately but no idea if the number is going up or not.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 12, 2023 21:57:39 GMT -5
The govt must have detailed data on this subject going back decades. Why not inform the public about what the facts are?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 12, 2023 22:18:51 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Aug 12, 2023 23:03:58 GMT -5
So we don’t know whether more or fewer young people are having sudden cardiac events now than did pre-Covid vaccines?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 12, 2023 23:28:28 GMT -5
What does VAERS tell us on this?
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 13, 2023 5:07:35 GMT -5
The govt must have detailed data on this subject going back decades. Why not inform the public about what the facts are? Here’s one reason: if the facts don’t match what the preconceptions are for some people it will be considered a cover-up. Conspiracies are everywhere.
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Post by mm67 on Aug 13, 2023 7:17:39 GMT -5
Kid dies. Polarization comes to life. Ho hum!
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 13, 2023 7:43:25 GMT -5
I see your point, but I feel "ho hum" is never an appropriate comment when a human life has been lost. Nor do I feel it is correct for some others to apparently try and use this young athlete's death to promote some agenda or conspiracy theory.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 13, 2023 8:01:29 GMT -5
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Post by mm67 on Aug 13, 2023 8:40:12 GMT -5
I see your point, but I feel "ho hum" is never an appropriate comment when a human life has been lost. Nor do I feel it is correct for some others to apparently try and use this young athlete's death to promote some agenda or conspiracy theory. We agree 100%. His death was a very sad tragedy, not ho hum to me personally. My point was the death of a youngster matters little in the ongoing battles in our deeply polarized nation. I failed to make this point clearly. Should have added some context. Thanks. mm
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Post by HC92 on Aug 13, 2023 9:42:08 GMT -5
Seems we should be able to figure out how many young people have died from heart problems every year. If that number has jumped in the last few years, one could dig further into whether there is causation from vaccines or just correlation. Like most issues, people just want to shout about their preconceived views and not get actual facts.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 13, 2023 11:30:35 GMT -5
As Mark Twain said “First gather all the facts. Then you may distort them as you please.”
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 13, 2023 12:14:33 GMT -5
As Mark Twain said “First gather all the facts. Then you may distort them as you please.” Or, to put it another way, as one of our more modern philosophers/inadvertent comedians put it: "alternative facts."
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Post by mm67 on Aug 13, 2023 12:34:24 GMT -5
Never let facts get in the way of your opinions.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 13, 2023 12:45:16 GMT -5
As Mark Twain said “First gather all the facts. Then you may distort them as you please.” Or, to put it another way, as one of our more modern philosophers/inadvertent comedians put it: "alternative facts." “If you don’t read the newspaper, you’re uninformed. If you do read it, you’re misinformed.” -- Denzel Washington
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Post by HC92 on Aug 13, 2023 13:06:24 GMT -5
Seem to be some “facts” in this article about increase in heart-related deaths among young people. Seems like those involved in the article are focused on the heart-related risks of having Covid but no mention of vaccines possibly introducing additional risk. Seems like this data is likely attainable somewhere if one who knew about such things was inclined to look. www.today.com/health/covid-heart-attack-young-people-rcna69903
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Post by dadominate on Aug 14, 2023 13:34:01 GMT -5
The govt must have detailed data on this subject going back decades. Why not inform the public about what the facts are? Here’s one reason: if the facts don’t match what the preconceptions are for some people it will be considered a cover-up. Conspiracies are everywhere. the reason is far simpler and should surprise nobody... pharma $$$ over half of the fda budget comes from pharma. the cdc purchases billions of dollars worth of vaccines that they promote. the nih budget is determined by congress, whose largest lobby by far is pharma. most don't realize that the nih even has a foundation supported by pharma $$$. there is a rotating door of leadership between pharma and the leadership of federal government regulatory agencies. one can come up with alternative hypotheses, but the above points are indisputable facts and occam's razor suggests that this is the root cause of the problems we face today. sadly, there are similar issues of capture of federal regulatory agencies in finance, telecom, chemical, and other major industries. unless there is major reform to revert back to the way things were before the 1990's, you will never see government agencies bite the hand that feeds in any meaningful way and the informed citizen must recognize this sad fact.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 14, 2023 14:01:42 GMT -5
Here’s one reason: if the facts don’t match what the preconceptions are for some people it will be considered a cover-up. Conspiracies are everywhere. the reason is far simpler and should surprise nobody... pharma $$$ over half of the fda budget comes from pharma. the cdc purchases billions of dollars worth of vaccines that they promote. the nih budget is determined by congress, whose largest lobby by far is pharma. most don't realize that the nih even has a foundation supported by pharma $$$. there is a rotating door of leadership between pharma and the leadership of federal government regulatory agencies. one can come up with alternative hypotheses, but the above points are indisputable facts and occam's razor suggests that this is the root cause of the problems we face today. sadly, there are similar issues of capture of federal regulatory agencies in finance, telecom, chemical, and other major industries. unless there is major reform to revert back to the way things were before the 1990's, you will never see government agencies bite the hand that feeds in any meaningful way and the informed citizen must recognize this sad fact. I would have guessed the defense industry was the biggest lobbyist as one hears so much about defense lobbyists on news reports. It's not even close if the site I found on the internet (link below and top 5 recapped on this post) is accurate Totals in millions of dollars spent lobbying in 2022
1) $373 Pharmaceuticals and Health 2) $ 222 electronics industry 3) $ 158 Insurance 4) $ 138 Securities and investments 5) $ 136 Real Estatewww.statista.com/statistics/257364/top-lobbying-industries-in-the-us/
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Post by dadominate on Aug 14, 2023 15:47:44 GMT -5
the pharma corruption is not just at the federal level... but every dimension of the practice of medicine at present. do readers realize that your hospital, doctor, and even pharmacist received incentive payments for each covid vaccine they administered? was that ever disclosed to you? substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fee0fd1-bd94-408d-8a24-38f0e457c550_1554x1588.png www.healthcarefinancenews.com/news/providers-get-greater-reimbursement-covid-19-vaccinei think most physicians are well-intentioned - i've taught many thousands and collaborated with hundreds at this stage of my career - but most do not understand how the sausage is made with respect to the generation of medical evidence that they are taught to accept as truth. the medical journals have been thoroughly corrupted as their revenue is driven by pharma advertisements and reprint purchases. emcrit.org/pulmcrit/dear-nejm-we-both-know-that-conflicts-of-interest-matter/to tie this back to the topic, it is heartbreaking to see young athletes potentially suffering vaccine-related injury when there was absolutely no reason for them to be taking the vaccines that were mandated of them by many schools. it should be clear from just these few posts the conflicts of interest that laced covid policy and i hope people start to push back en masse... because the absolute rot at the core persists.
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Post by td128 on Aug 14, 2023 16:03:56 GMT -5
Thank you Mr. DaDominate.
You are a true Crusader and man for others. I applaud you, appreciate you and respect you.
Well done and FIGHT ON!!
#TRUTH
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Post by dadominate on Aug 15, 2023 7:01:27 GMT -5
Thank you Mr. DaDominate.
You are a true Crusader and man for others. I applaud you, appreciate you and respect you.
Well done and FIGHT ON!!
#TRUTH likewise, brother! my work isn't done until we can all align on these undisputable truths and collectively push back on the blatant corruption that is harming all of us. i don't post anything overtly political here - per board rules - but my dream is that what was once a left-wing cause and has now completely flipped and become a right-wing cause becomes an AMERICAN cause. every single american is being harmed by pharma corruption and government capture and it's far beyond time to move beyond the unquestioning tribal camps and collectively push back. for the sake of our kids and grandkids, if for no other reason.
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