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Post by alum on Aug 21, 2023 10:10:01 GMT -5
This can be found here. projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/42103558/202341289349302159/fullThere is a list of the top salaries on page 7 and then a further breakdown of them about ten pages from the end. It contains a bit of interesting information, starting with the fact that we got VR on the cheap for $400,000 (not including retirement contributions) It would appear that he is not on the College's health insurance plan. Perhaps his wife's plan is a better deal. The $400,000 number includes $290,000 in salary and another $109,000 in other reportable compensation which I suppose could be the house that HC is providing to him. I will be interested in seeing if this goes up each year. BN's base salary was around $340,000 and it looks like he earned a $6800 bonus plus benefits. BC made $185,000 base plus a $40,000 bonus plus benefits. EDIT: The Supplemental Information reveals that the housing is included in the $109,000 other reportable compensation.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 21, 2023 10:35:27 GMT -5
It's hard to believe that Bob Chesney's compensation was (is?) that low. I would have thought he made twice that or more. I would have guessed much much higher for VR as well.
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Post by lou on Aug 21, 2023 10:43:40 GMT -5
...And why would we pay a former assistant basketball coach that much for his first head coaching job? And he somehow earned a bonus??
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 21, 2023 10:58:06 GMT -5
...And why would we pay a former assistant basketball coach that much for his first head coaching job? And he somehow earned a bonus?? Because he won “a” game?!😂
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Post by mm67 on Aug 21, 2023 13:49:16 GMT -5
With all the apparent waste of money, it's easy to see why schools are non-profits.
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Post by Xmassader on Aug 21, 2023 13:59:22 GMT -5
...And why would we pay a former assistant basketball coach that much for his first head coaching job? And he somehow earned a bonus?? Our former AD now at Creighton was the “responsible” party. An initial mistake in hiring FHCBN, compounded by hiring him at that elevated salary, compounded further by adding an extra year to his contract after he had gone 8-40…and now we learn for the first time a bonus. He should be sending us a portion of his salary as recompense for his poor judgment. And, as I’ve said several times, as problematic as FHCBN’s performance was, he didn’t hire himself. His hiring may go down as one of the worst hirings in HC sports history (if not sports history in general). Please explain the Blue Jays rationale for hiring MB as their new AD.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Aug 21, 2023 14:14:19 GMT -5
It's hard to believe that Bob Chesney's compensation was (is?) that low. I would have thought he made twice that or more. I would have guessed much much higher for VR as well. I would have thought it was a bit higher--mid 300's, but I have to think that his contract extension would bring him to that level and perhaps beyond. PVR is a bargain. If he stays for a while, which I hope, that number will grow, as it should.
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 21, 2023 14:43:42 GMT -5
It's hard to believe that Bob Chesney's compensation was (is?) that low. I would have thought he made twice that or more. I would have guessed much much higher for VR as well. Why? It shows you how small time FCS football is and why Chesney will leave for a better gig very soon.
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Post by hcpride on Aug 21, 2023 14:56:18 GMT -5
...And why would we pay a former assistant basketball coach that much for his first head coaching job? And he somehow earned a bonus?? Our former AD now at Creighton was the “responsible” party. An initial mistake in hiring FHCBN, compounded by hiring him at that elevated salary, compounded further by adding an extra year to his contract after he had gone 8-40…and now we learn for the first time a bonus. He should be sending us a portion of his salary as recompense for his poor judgment. And, as I’ve said several times, as problematic as FHCBN’s performance was, he didn’t hire himself. His hiring may go down as one of the worst hirings in HC sports history (if not sports history in general). Please explain the Blue Jays rationale for hiring MB as their new AD.Is it worse than hiring a failed head coach from a similar school within the same league only to have him immediately fail again as head coach? Which, remarkably, is what Lehigh did quite recently in football.
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Post by Tom on Aug 21, 2023 15:50:09 GMT -5
...And why would we pay a former assistant basketball coach that much for his first head coaching job? And he somehow earned a bonus?? Our former AD now at Creighton was the “responsible” party. An initial mistake in hiring FHCBN, compounded by hiring him at that elevated salary, compounded further by adding an extra year to his contract after he had gone 8-40…and now we learn for the first time a bonus. He should be sending us a portion of his salary as recompense for his poor judgment. And, as I’ve said several times, as problematic as FHCBN’s performance was, he didn’t hire himself. His hiring may go down as one of the worst hirings in HC sports history (if not sports history in general). Please explain the Blue Jays rationale for hiring MB as their new AD. The rumor of that extra year had been reported here. Was that rumor ever confirmed as fact? I suppose we'll find out down the road if Coach Nelson is on the school's financial statement (also recently reported here) in future years
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 21, 2023 17:46:07 GMT -5
When did we start being concerned with confirming rumors on Crossports?
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 21, 2023 18:22:26 GMT -5
IIRC....never.
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Post by thecrossisback on Aug 21, 2023 18:54:01 GMT -5
It's hard to believe that Bob Chesney's compensation was (is?) that low. I would have thought he made twice that or more. I would have guessed much much higher for VR as well. Why? It shows you how small time FCS football is and why Chesney will leave for a better gig very soon. Small time FCS. Tell that to UConn and Buffalo!
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Post by alum on Aug 21, 2023 19:18:38 GMT -5
...And why would we pay a former assistant basketball coach that much for his first head coaching job? And he somehow earned a bonus?? Our former AD now at Creighton was the “responsible” party. An initial mistake in hiring FHCBN, compounded by hiring him at that elevated salary, compounded further by adding an extra year to his contract after he had gone 8-40…and now we learn for the first time a bonus. He should be sending us a portion of his salary as recompense for his poor judgment. And, as I’ve said several times, as problematic as FHCBN’s performance was, he didn’t hire himself. His hiring may go down as one of the worst hirings in HC sports history (if not sports history in general). Please explain the Blue Jays rationale for hiring MB as their new AD. Perhaps Creighton was looking for a guy who could do this: (from his bio on Creighton site) “Marcus Blossom is in his third year as McCormick Endowed Athletic Director at Creighton. Creighton has enjoyed historic levels of success in Blossom’s first two years on the job, as Bluejay teams have made 11 postseason appearances. Creighton men’s soccer featured MAC Hermann Trophy Award winner Duncan McGuire and advanced to the College Cup (2022). Creighton’s men’s basketball (2023) and women’s basketball (2022) teams both reached the Elite Eight. Creighton’s Volleyball team won its eighth and ninth consecutive regular-season BIG EAST titles, earning a national seed and hosting NCAA Tournament action in both seasons. The accomplishments didn’t end there. Women’s golfer Katherine Lemke became CU’s first BIG EAST individual champion and postseason qualifier (2022 and 2023), and Tommy Ward represented the Creighton Men’s Track program in the NCAA Regionals (2023). On the coaching side rowing’s Dan Chipps (2022) and women’s golf’s Debbie Conry (2022), in addition to men’s and women’s tennis’ Tom Lilly (2023) all were named Conference Coach of the Year for the first time after more than 20 years on the job. The work performed by Bluejay student-athletes in the classroom also featured excellence across the board. The men’s cross country program owned the nation’s best GPA in 2021-22. CU had four CU programs recognized by the BIG EAST with 2021-22 Team Academic Excellence Awards, then three more teams earned the accolade in 2022-23. CU student-athletes owned a 3.48 GPA in the spring of 2023.” Looks like he is doing fine although that certainly doesn’t change the fact that BN was a swing and a miss.
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Post by alum on Aug 21, 2023 19:21:17 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 21, 2023 19:35:47 GMT -5
Our former AD now at Creighton was the “responsible” party. An initial mistake in hiring FHCBN, compounded by hiring him at that elevated salary, compounded further by adding an extra year to his contract after he had gone 8-40…and now we learn for the first time a bonus. He should be sending us a portion of his salary as recompense for his poor judgment. And, as I’ve said several times, as problematic as FHCBN’s performance was, he didn’t hire himself. His hiring may go down as one of the worst hirings in HC sports history (if not sports history in general). Please explain the Blue Jays rationale for hiring MB as their new AD. Perhaps Creighton was looking for a guy who could do this: (from his bio on Creighton site) “Marcus Blossom is in his third year as McCormick Endowed Athletic Director at Creighton. Creighton has enjoyed historic levels of success in Blossom’s first two years on the job, as Bluejay teams have made 11 postseason appearances. Creighton men’s soccer featured MAC Hermann Trophy Award winner Duncan McGuire and advanced to the College Cup (2022). Creighton’s men’s basketball (2023) and women’s basketball (2022) teams both reached the Elite Eight. Creighton’s Volleyball team won its eighth and ninth consecutive regular-season BIG EAST titles, earning a national seed and hosting NCAA Tournament action in both seasons. The accomplishments didn’t end there. Women’s golfer Katherine Lemke became CU’s first BIG EAST individual champion and postseason qualifier (2022 and 2023), and Tommy Ward represented the Creighton Men’s Track program in the NCAA Regionals (2023). On the coaching side rowing’s Dan Chipps (2022) and women’s golf’s Debbie Conry (2022), in addition to men’s and women’s tennis’ Tom Lilly (2023) all were named Conference Coach of the Year for the first time after more than 20 years on the job. The work performed by Bluejay student-athletes in the classroom also featured excellence across the board. The men’s cross country program owned the nation’s best GPA in 2021-22. CU had four CU programs recognized by the BIG EAST with 2021-22 Team Academic Excellence Awards, then three more teams earned the accolade in 2022-23. CU student-athletes owned a 3.48 GPA in the spring of 2023.” Looks like he is doing fine although that certainly doesn’t change the fact that BN was a swing and a miss. Carrying the metaphor on, Brett Nelson was not a swing and a miss, he was more like a weak grounder for a triple play
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 21, 2023 20:35:26 GMT -5
Nice (if cruel) analogy.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 21, 2023 20:40:49 GMT -5
...And why would we pay a former assistant basketball coach that much for his first head coaching job? And he somehow earned a bonus?? A rookie AD hired a rookie head coach. It continued a mindset that the PL/HC is a great place for a D-1 Assistant to take his/her first command. Our two winning coaches got their head coaching skills down pat before taking over an HC revenue sport. I hope Coach Riga is the exception who proves the rule as he has men's hockey headed in the right direction in his first head coaching gig.
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Post by HC13 on Aug 22, 2023 6:22:38 GMT -5
I am a little surprised HC MM didn't make the list, had thought she was being paid north of 150,000
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 22, 2023 6:43:45 GMT -5
It's been awhile since I had any involvement in this form but from memory, it has to include all officers (regardless of how highly/lowly compensated) and then something like the top 10 paid employees. A quick glance would seem for those making under $150K are officers. Also from memory of past 990's, Margaret Freije was one of the most highly compensated even before becoming provost/dean and simply a professor. Vince would appear to be underpaid for direct compensation but don't recall exactly when his start date was relative to the fiscal year and perhaps only a partial year? And, remember, the BoT, might have compared his salary to Phil Boroughs, Mike McFarland, et. al. They may think they are overpaying him! As for the former basketball coach, IMHO he "stole" his salary making about twice as much as a successful football coach who has 5-6 times as many athletes and 3 times as many assistants to oversee.
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Post by trimster on Aug 22, 2023 6:59:45 GMT -5
...And why would we pay a former assistant basketball coach that much for his first head coaching job? And he somehow earned a bonus?? Outrageous.
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Post by alum on Aug 22, 2023 7:05:50 GMT -5
It's been awhile since I had any involvement in this form but from memory, it has to include all officers (regardless of how highly/lowly compensated) and then something like the top 10 paid employees. A quick glance would seem for those making under $150K are officers. Also from memory of past 990's, Margaret Freije was one of the most highly compensated even before becoming provost/dean and simply a professor. Vince would appear to be underpaid for direct compensation but don't recall exactly when his start date was relative to the fiscal year and perhaps only a partial year? And, remember, the BoT, might have compared his salary to Phil Boroughs, Mike McFarland, et. al. They may think they are overpaying him! As for the former basketball coach, IMHO he "stole" his salary making about twice as much as a successful football coach who has 5-6 times as many athletes and 3 times as many assistants to oversee. I think you are right as to why MM is not listed. I am confident she earned more than $150,000. This is what the form asks for: 1a Complete this table for all persons required to be listed. Report compensation for the calendar year ending with or within the organization’s tax year.
List all of the organization’s current officers, directors, trustees (whether individuals or organizations), regardless of amount
of compensation. Enter -0- in columns (D), (E), and (F) if no compensation was paid. List all of the organization’s current key employees, if any. See the instructions for definition of "key employee." List the organization’s five current highest compensated employees (other than an officer, director, trustee or key employee)
who received reportable compensation (box 5 of Form W-2, Form 1099-MISC, and/or box 1 of Form 1099-NEC) of more than $100,000 from the
organization and any related organizations.
List all of the organization’s former officers, key employees, or highest compensated employees who received more than $100,000
of reportable compensation from the organization and any related organizations.
List all of the organization’s former directors or trustees that received, in the capacity as a former director or trustee of the
organization, more than $10,000 of reportable compensation from the organization and any related organizations.
VR appears to have started on 7/1/21 so that was a complete year. If you go back through these forms, HC has always paid the men's basketball coach more (often a lot more) than the football coach.
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Post by Tom on Aug 22, 2023 7:33:23 GMT -5
Carrying the metaphor on, Brett Nelson was not a swing and a miss, he was more like a weak grounder for a triple play In all fairness, a ball has to be fairly decently struck (right at someone) to turn 3 (or really horrible baserunning) We might think President Rougeau is a bargain, but the 32 guys who had the job before him weren't paid anything
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 22, 2023 7:35:10 GMT -5
Our former AD now at Creighton was the “responsible” party. An initial mistake in hiring FHCBN, compounded by hiring him at that elevated salary, compounded further by adding an extra year to his contract after he had gone 8-40…and now we learn for the first time a bonus. He should be sending us a portion of his salary as recompense for his poor judgment. And, as I’ve said several times, as problematic as FHCBN’s performance was, he didn’t hire himself. His hiring may go down as one of the worst hirings in HC sports history (if not sports history in general). Please explain the Blue Jays rationale for hiring MB as their new AD. Perhaps Creighton was looking for a guy who could do this: (from his bio on Creighton site) “Marcus Blossom is in his third year as McCormick Endowed Athletic Director at Creighton. Creighton has enjoyed historic levels of success in Blossom’s first two years on the job, as Bluejay teams have made 11 postseason appearances. Creighton men’s soccer featured MAC Hermann Trophy Award winner Duncan McGuire and advanced to the College Cup (2022). Creighton’s men’s basketball (2023) and women’s basketball (2022) teams both reached the Elite Eight. Creighton’s Volleyball team won its eighth and ninth consecutive regular-season BIG EAST titles, earning a national seed and hosting NCAA Tournament action in both seasons. The accomplishments didn’t end there. Women’s golfer Katherine Lemke became CU’s first BIG EAST individual champion and postseason qualifier (2022 and 2023), and Tommy Ward represented the Creighton Men’s Track program in the NCAA Regionals (2023). On the coaching side rowing’s Dan Chipps (2022) and women’s golf’s Debbie Conry (2022), in addition to men’s and women’s tennis’ Tom Lilly (2023) all were named Conference Coach of the Year for the first time after more than 20 years on the job. The work performed by Bluejay student-athletes in the classroom also featured excellence across the board. The men’s cross country program owned the nation’s best GPA in 2021-22. CU had four CU programs recognized by the BIG EAST with 2021-22 Team Academic Excellence Awards, then three more teams earned the accolade in 2022-23. CU student-athletes owned a 3.48 GPA in the spring of 2023.” Looks like he is doing fine although that certainly doesn’t change the fact that BN was a swing and a miss. All of these accomplishments happen at Creighton with or without Blossom. What important hire has he had to make in his tenure at Creighton?
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 22, 2023 8:24:09 GMT -5
Magarity and Riga are turning out to be good hires. It's that first hire that was a killer. A rookie hiring a rookie. Obviously nobody among TPTB was carefully overseeing that hire or else HC wouldn't have overpaid in terms of salary and guaranteed years for an untested career assistant.
It was OPM (other people's money) and it was spent carelessly. Striking a better deal for HC would have helped other sports with small budgets and given HC more flexibility to change course in MBB when it was the logical time to do so instead of waiting until the hit could be financially absorbed while watching a once proud program wither on the vine.
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