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Post by rgs318 on Sept 13, 2023 18:39:51 GMT -5
90-100% Chance
Florida State by 38 over Boston College (59-21)
Harvard by 24 over St Thomas (MN) (38-14)
70-80% Chance
Lafayette by 7 over Columbia (14-7)
Merrimack by 14 over Houston Christian (28-14)
Penn by 10 over Colgate (31-21)
Texas - San Antonio by10 over Army (21-11)
50-60% Chance
Yale by 4 over HOLY CROSS (21-17)
Cornell by 1 over Lehigh (22-21) virtual tossup
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 13, 2023 18:45:32 GMT -5
Yale being favored is an absolute joke
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Post by joutsHC77 on Sept 13, 2023 19:12:14 GMT -5
Yale being favored is an absolute joke Agreed KY. Be relentless on O & D and keep scoring! |
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Post by efg72 on Sept 13, 2023 19:23:40 GMT -5
Yale being favored is an absolute joke Not really Ky They are good Improved each week last year Have enough starters returning with a very strong QB for their offense And it is a home game We will be well prepared and should win, but I can see how they are +/-4 in this game for those that might bet All depends on the weather and how we slow down their running attack I think we win, but not a lock imho Final HC 35-27 |
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Post by cruskater31 on Sept 13, 2023 19:55:18 GMT -5
Massey has Yale by 1, 28-27 with 51% confidence. Although when you go to the matchup tool and plug in HC at Yale, the results are literally flipped.
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Post by efg72 on Sept 13, 2023 20:07:19 GMT -5
Weather will be a major factor on Saturday
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Post by lou on Sept 13, 2023 20:12:03 GMT -5
Weather will be a major factor on Saturday 10% chance of rain as of now |
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Post by hcpride on Sept 13, 2023 20:20:26 GMT -5
Yale being favored is an absolute joke Not really Ky They are good Improved each week last year Have enough starters returning with a very strong QB for their offense And it is a home game We will be well prepared and should win, but I can see how they are +/-4 in this game for those that might bet All depends on the weather and how we slow down their running attack I think we win, but not a lock imho Final HC 35-27 They may have improved during the year (or played generally suspect opponents) but didn’t crack the top 25 in the coaches poll at the end of the season. We finished at 6. They may very well have been the best football Ivy (FWIW) Last year we played them (their first, our third) and won 38-14. Hard to think of a rational reason they’d be favored over us. |
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Post by efg72 on Sept 13, 2023 20:40:43 GMT -5
Understand but they are pretty good-terrific left handed QB and solid RBs
Ivies have a tough time getting ranked by the voters since they don't compete in the playoffs
But yes we should win by 10-14
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 13, 2023 21:02:00 GMT -5
Well, I'm OK with Yale being favored as it makes us more hungry and ensures we don't look past them.
From a source close to the team: As you know this will be a HUGE challenge for our team. These guys all had HC and BC offers and many had MAJOR P5 offers and chose Yale instead. This will take everything we got but lucky for all of us this team will give just that.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 13, 2023 21:10:52 GMT -5
For those wanting a stronger schedule, we've got it.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 13, 2023 21:44:33 GMT -5
Well, I'm OK with Yale being favored as it makes us more hungry and ensures we don't look past them. From a source close to the team: As you know this will be a HUGE challenge for our team. These guys all had HC and BC offers and many had MAJOR P5 offers and chose Yale instead. This will take everything we got but lucky for all of us this team will give just that.Like last year. And we won 38-14. |
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Post by Ignutz on Sept 14, 2023 8:29:33 GMT -5
90-100% ChanceFlorida State by 38 over Boston College (59-21) Harvard by 24 over St Thomas (MN) (38-14) 70-80% ChanceLafayette by 7 over Columbia (14-7) Merrimack by 14 over Houston Christian (28-14) Penn by 10 over Colgate (31-21) Texas - San Antonio by107 over Army (21-11) 50-60% ChanceYale by 4 over HOLY CROSS (21-17) Cornell by 1 over Lehigh (22-21) virtual tossup Please help me out here: If home-field is worth three points, Bassett essentially says that Yale beats Holy Cross by one on a neutral field. Massey, saying that Yale is a one-point favorite, is suggesting that Holy Cross wins by two on a neutral field. Based on these two predictions, one could conclude that this game is a toss-up between two essentially equal teams. If that conclusion is correct, either Yale should be ranked at or near #5 in the national polls, or Holy Cross should be in the "Others receiving votes" category. I don't believe that either of those is true. What am I missing? |
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Post by hchoops on Sept 14, 2023 8:34:17 GMT -5
70-80% ChanceLafayette by 7 over Columbia (14-7) Merrimack by 14 over Houston Christian (28-14) Penn by 10 over Colgate (31-21) Texas - San Antonio by107 over Army (21-11) I will take those 107 and bet on Army |
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Post by dharry13 on Sept 14, 2023 8:35:39 GMT -5
Ignutz - that analysis is correct - which makes no sense because HC is #5. With that said - I firmly believe this will be a very difficult game. Yale was embarrassed last year and this is a home game for them. Revenge will be real. HC is coming off the BC game which I personally believe gassed them emotionally and physically. I think this is going to be a real challenging game. I'm hoping HC comes out on top and to me - if they win - will be a FANTASTIC win with all they are up against. And if they win I think they roll the next 3 games - actually I think they do this - win or lose. I think they can beat Harvard by 10-14.
Let's hope they head into the bye 5-1. This Yale game goes a long way.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 14, 2023 8:37:56 GMT -5
90-100% ChanceFlorida State by 38 over Boston College (59-21) Harvard by 24 over St Thomas (MN) (38-14) 70-80% ChanceLafayette by 7 over Columbia (14-7) Merrimack by 14 over Houston Christian (28-14) Penn by 10 over Colgate (31-21) Texas - San Antonio by107 over Army (21-11) 50-60% ChanceYale by 4 over HOLY CROSS (21-17) Cornell by 1 over Lehigh (22-21) virtual tossup Please help me out here: If home-field is worth three points, Bassett essentially says that Yale beats Holy Cross by one on a neutral field. Massey, saying that Yale is a one-point favorite is suggesting that Holy Cross wins by two on a neutral field. Based on these two predictions, one could conclude that this game is a toss-up between two essentially equal teams. If that conclusion is correct, either Yale should be ranked at or near #5 in the national polls, or Holy Cross should be in the "Others receiving votes" category. I don't believe that either of those is true. What am I missing? Remember that Bassett, Massey, Sagarin, etc. are computer rankings. It's clear that the computers think the PL is very weak (true) and HC gets penalized because of that. The computers have traditionally liked the Ivy League and rates it stronger than the PL. My guess is that "the books" will have HC as a 5-7 point favorite. Most believe that Yale is a top 20-30 team, so they're certainly no slouch. |
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 14, 2023 8:39:20 GMT -5
You and they are missing that the games are played on the field, subject to all kinds of factors including injuries, weather, increasing experience levels, etc. rather than some semi-accurate algorithm. They try to make an inherently subjective topic "objective."
What was BC predicted to beat us by? And, didn't most of us think that after the weather-delay that we were going to win, especially after the first Sluka run (that should have been a winning TD)? Chesney and our players said that it felt like a home game.
I, for one, am happy that we are supposed underdogs. It will help motivate our guys.
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Post by alum on Sept 14, 2023 8:49:48 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 14, 2023 9:46:47 GMT -5
When looking at Massey, the pick under Holy Cross on its schedule was made pre-season.
Under "matchup" it is more current. It simply means he sees it as a close game and now picks HC.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 18, 2023 7:39:51 GMT -5
OK, before making your predictions remember that Bassett rated Yale above HC and picked the Eli by 4.  90-100% ChanceFordham by 21 over Stonehill (42-21) HOLY CROSS by 32 over Colgate (49-17) Louisville by 21 over Boston College (42-21) Syracuse by 25 over Army (35-10) 80-90% ChanceDartmouth by 17 over Lehigh (31-14) Penn by 14 over Bucknell (28-14) 70-80% ChanceHarvard by 10 over Brown (28-18) 60-70% ChanceLafayette by 7 over Monmouth (21-14) Merrimack by 7 over Wagner (24-17) 50-60% ChanceYake. by 4 over Cornell (21-17) |
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Post by hchoops on Sept 18, 2023 9:14:19 GMT -5
BC’s game vs FSU did not get them much respect
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Post by newfieguy74 on Sept 18, 2023 9:23:54 GMT -5
Dartmouth by 17 over Lehigh seems like a bit much. I don't put a lot of trust in Bassett's predictions.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 18, 2023 9:39:08 GMT -5
Dartmouth by 17 over Lehigh seems like a bit much. I don't put a lot of trust in Bassett's predictions. A lot of points, but Lehigh did just lose at home to Cornell (picked seventh in the Ivy). Meanwhile, Dartmouth was pretty competitive at UNH (it was 10-7 early in the 4th, before UNH scored the final two touchdowns). Given this game is in Hanover, Dartmouth being favored anywhere from 13-17 points seems right. Neither of these offenses seem all that great. Guessing a low scoring affair. |
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