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Post by timholycross on Oct 25, 2023 8:22:47 GMT -5
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Post by lou on Oct 25, 2023 8:26:19 GMT -5
Gotta love this part of the big announcement
"Army and Navy both play in the Patriot League in sports other than football."
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Post by cruskater31 on Oct 25, 2023 8:39:08 GMT -5
Gotta love this part of the big announcement "Army and Navy both play in the Patriot League in sports other than football." Nice little PL mention! I didn't realize Army and HC played in the PL hockey conference! |
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Post by purplehaze on Oct 25, 2023 9:07:20 GMT -5
Of their two non-league games each season I think they’ll keep one FCS game - I don’t like this league at all, no tradition with opponents
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 25, 2023 9:09:02 GMT -5
Yep. Navy only has room for ONE flex game a year with 8 AAC games, Army, Air Force and ND. I have to give it to them -- when the we went scholly, they allocated their home opener to PL opponents probably 7 times in a span of 9 years. Can't complain. Army has recently played 2 FCS games / year seemingly every year for a while. One of these almost always against PL. So, yea opportunities to play Army will be further in between for us now. |
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Post by hc1996 on Oct 25, 2023 9:09:16 GMT -5
But I'm thinking it will be a more winnable FCS game than HC.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 25, 2023 9:12:49 GMT -5
Of their two non-league games each season I think they’ll keep one FCS game - I don’t like this league at all, no tradition with opponents They definitely will because FCS games are guaranteed home dates. Unless they lock in a big ticket home-and-home with a traditional power school, you'll see an FCS coming to Michie annually. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 25, 2023 9:14:49 GMT -5
But I'm thinking it will be a more winnable FCS game than HC. Army does have big, bad Marist on the home docket in 2025. I believe Dartmouth next year as well. Service academies usually have most of their skeds booked out close to a decade in advance, so I'd imagine West Point will be making a whole bunch of cancellation phone calls to ADs at MAC schools as well as possibly UCONN and UMASS. |
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Post by hcpride on Oct 25, 2023 10:53:17 GMT -5
Personally, I think this move will be bad news for Army now as it ups their strength of schedule (v this year and last) and they’re kinda weak at this point to be doing that sort of thing.
(I’m thinking likely W-L. I know they beat UTSA this year as their only FBS win.)
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Oct 25, 2023 11:00:19 GMT -5
Personally, I think this move will be bad news for Army now as it ups their strength of schedule (v this year and last) and they’re kinda weak at this point to be doing that sort of thing. (I’m thinking likely W-L.) I'm not sure about that. The AAC is pretty bad to average outside of the top three or four teams most years. This year, the conference ranks eight of ten FBS conferences (only the MAC and CUSA are lower). I steady dose of Charlotte, Temple, Tulsa, East Carolina, UAB, et al aren't anything to cower from. |
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Post by hcpride on Oct 25, 2023 11:13:51 GMT -5
Personally, I think this move will be bad news for Army now as it ups their strength of schedule (v this year and last) and they’re kinda weak at this point to be doing that sort of thing. (I’m thinking likely W-L.) I'm not sure about that. The AAC is pretty bad to average outside of the top three or four teams most years. This year, the conference ranks eight of ten FBS conferences (only the MAC and CUSA are lower). I steady dose of Charlotte, Temple, Tulsa, East Carolina, UAB, et al aren't anything to cower from. Mostly agree, but have you seen the murderer’s row of opponents they had the ability to schedule this year [with an eye on a respectable W-L record] (2 FCS, ULM, UMass,…)? |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Oct 25, 2023 12:35:06 GMT -5
I'm not sure about that. The AAC is pretty bad to average outside of the top three or four teams most years. This year, the conference ranks eight of ten FBS conferences (only the MAC and CUSA are lower). I steady dose of Charlotte, Temple, Tulsa, East Carolina, UAB, et al aren't anything to cower from. Mostly agree, but have you seen the murderer’s row of opponents they had the ability to schedule this year [with an eye on a respectable W-L record] (2 FCS, ULM, UMass,…)? True...but then they also have three P5 opponents (LSU, Syracuse, BC). That goes away when moving to the AAC. Their OOC becomes Air Force, FCS opponents, and XYZ opponent. |
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Post by hcpride on Oct 25, 2023 12:50:07 GMT -5
Mostly agree, but have you seen the murderer’s row of opponents they had the ability to schedule this year [with an eye on a respectable W-L record] (2 FCS, ULM, UMass,…)? True...but then they also have three P5 opponents (LSU, Syracuse, BC). That goes away when moving to the AAC. Their OOC becomes Air Force, FCS opponents, and XYZ opponent. Only 2 games per year can be strategically selected w/AAC membership. Remember, Conference USA did not work out for them W-L (7-27) and the main reason they gave for leaving was "scheduling flexibility" which was misinterpreted by many. Hopefully football conference membership works out better for West Point and their fans this time. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 25, 2023 13:26:15 GMT -5
True...but then they also have three P5 opponents (LSU, Syracuse, BC). That goes away when moving to the AAC. Their OOC becomes Air Force, FCS opponents, and XYZ opponent. Only 2 games per year can be strategically selected w/AAC membership. Remember, Conference USA did not work out for them W-L (7-27) and the main reason they gave for leaving was "scheduling flexibility" which was misinterpreted by many. Hopefully this works out for West Point and their fans this time. And probably 3 of those 7 CUSA wins were in their first year in the league IIRC. The AAC of today will be much more manageable competition-wise than Conference USA between 1997-2004. But the scheduling flexibility goes away. As someone whose followed Army football since I was a kid, I've definitely enjoyed the more recent schedules as well as those they played the couple of years I can remember prior to the CUSA move. A steady diet of the likes of BC, Syracuse, Duke, a Patriot or maybe Ivy opponent, UConn, occasional big name (ND, Stanford, Michigan, etc.) in addition to the service academy rivals is much more appealing to me than what we'll see in the AAC. Army does have a history with Temple, Rice and Tulane, in addition to Navy. So its not all bad but the rolodex of FAU, North Texas, UTSA, Charlotte and UAB year after year doesn't excite me. |
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Post by purplehaze on Oct 25, 2023 13:50:15 GMT -5
An interesting time for ADKH to seek out G5 games for the coming years as Army will be canceling many of those contracts
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Post by trimster on Oct 25, 2023 13:59:42 GMT -5
Of their two non-league games each season I think they’ll keep one FCS game - I don’t like this league at all, no tradition with opponents Hmmm, why does that sound familiar? Fear not, new rivalries will develop a visionary once said. |
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Oct 25, 2023 14:12:02 GMT -5
The future of college sports can be documented on an Etch-A-Sketch
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Post by hc69 on Oct 25, 2023 15:23:44 GMT -5
An interesting time for ADKH to seek out G5 games for the coming years as Army will be canceling many of those contracts Not sure we'd want to play any of them. Last two years: Coastal Carolina, UTSA, GA State, LA-Monroe, Troy. Much rather play UConn, UMass. |
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Post by bigfan on Oct 25, 2023 15:56:05 GMT -5
In the past I have talked to a big UMass booster about playing HC and he said that the AD would not schedule HC because they would rather play other schools who
would give them a good pay day. They would only consider playing UConn and BC. Looks like they do not care about getting their butts kicked if they get a good check.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 25, 2023 16:03:19 GMT -5
Knock, knock, who's there? It's UMass, UConn and Army's other tomato cans that now need another game to schedule. Holy Cross should be able to fill it's qouta of 1-2 FBS games because FBS teams have 12 dates to fill and an FCS opponent is a home game for season tickets, ads, concessions, parking, merch etc.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 26, 2023 22:40:42 GMT -5
Army announcement
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 26, 2023 23:25:07 GMT -5
Underwhelming group of teams the AAC added before this year to justify their continued existence. Army is a coup for them.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 27, 2023 4:40:26 GMT -5
Underwhelming group of teams the AAC added before this year to justify their continued existence. Army is a coup for them. Yup. The AAC over-expanded, especially in certain markets (FL, TX) to hedge against getting poached in this seemingly never-ending current round of power conference expansion. UNT, UTSA and Rice were to help re-build the TX footprint after the departure of Houston...and turned to be a good move since SMU jumped to the ACC. FAU was invited to hedge against the possibility of USF following UCF out the door to maintain a stake in the Sunshine State. I think the Rice add was probably pushed by fellow high academics Navy and Tulane. |
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Post by alum on Oct 27, 2023 5:16:41 GMT -5
If it is possible, the AAC is a more boring collection of schools today than when UConn joined it a decade or so ago.
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Post by Ignutz on Oct 27, 2023 7:08:47 GMT -5
The future of college sports can be documented on an Etch-A-Sketch By Buddy the elf? |
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