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Post by longsuffering on Nov 5, 2023 23:42:32 GMT -5
If HC, Fordham and Laffy all end up 8-3, I believe HC earns the auto-bid with one league loss while FU and LC would have two each. But what does the committee do with the other two PL eight win teams?
Fordham would have to have the stronger position with an FBS win and having beaten Lafayette, but is there any possibility of all three getting a bid or does the PL revert to a one bid conference or have two bids like last year?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 6, 2023 0:17:54 GMT -5
I'll bet there will be one PL team in the FCS playoffs
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Post by hcpride on Nov 6, 2023 4:22:23 GMT -5
I'll bet there will be one PL team in the FCS playoffs Agreed. We are a one bid league as a rule. (SOS is a big part of that.) Don’t see this year as an exception. |
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 6, 2023 5:50:05 GMT -5
To answer the initial question, if all 3 teams have an 8-3 record, it means HC wins the remaining games including FBS West Point. It also means the other two have lost 2 PL games vs. only 1 for HC. Crusaders then would be the sole PL champs with the auto bid.
While it would be nice to see one or both of the others also getting in, not likely, and my brain has enough to worry about us getting in with the latest loss of Matt and Jake so I’ll let the Rams and Leopard fans do the worrying and thinking for their teams.😉
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Post by gks on Nov 6, 2023 8:04:55 GMT -5
Fordham at 8-3 has a shot with an FBS win. But probably first four out.
Lafayette at 8-3 has no shot.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 6, 2023 8:15:16 GMT -5
Go Rams! Go Cross, Beat Army!
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 6, 2023 8:22:59 GMT -5
Lafayette has zero shot of an at-large. They either win out, finish 9-2, and get the auto-bid...or they'll be at home. Only way they make playoffs at 8-3 is if HC loses to Georgetown and they end up with the auto with 2 league losses. As SOV pointed out, there could be a whole bunch of tie-breakers to wade through in this case. A 4-way tie between HC, Lafayette, Fordham and Georgetown I believe is mathematically possible. I think we would likely be the representative in this scenario (even with a 6-5 overall record) because after head-to-head the next tiebreaker would be record against 5th place team (probably Colgate). And since Lafayette and Georgetown LOST to Colgate, that would eliminate those two and pit HC v. Fordham -- and HC won that head to head.
3 bids isn't happening by default because whoever LOSES the Lafayette-Fordham game is OUT of the at-large conversation 100%.
If Holy Cross AND Fordham both win out, we'll have the auto-bid and Fordham will be on the bubble. Lafayette will be OUT.
If Lafayette and HC both win out, Lafayette gets the auto and HC I'm 85-90% sure is in as an at-large. And Fordham will be OUT with 4 losses.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Nov 6, 2023 9:10:37 GMT -5
8 - 3 x 3 = -1 Not sure you took math at Holy Cross  |
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Post by alum on Nov 6, 2023 9:13:28 GMT -5
8 - 3 x 3 = -1 Not sure you took math at Holy Cross Please excuse my dear Aunt Sally |
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Post by efg72 on Nov 6, 2023 9:30:34 GMT -5
To get an at-large bid, a handful of the teams currently ranked or viewed as stronger teams need to lose over the next two weeks. Yes, all things are possible.
We are a courageous bunch, and I love the effort and never-quit attitude of the group. With the many injuries, however, we are not the same team that played the first few games this fall.
The PL will likely get one bid this year, so buckle up and play one game at a time, and let's see what happens.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 6, 2023 9:38:56 GMT -5
I'm more optimistic (as evidenced by my pre-season prediction of a perfect season and national championship).
I firmly believe if we win out, which will be very difficult but also possible, we have an 8-3 record, presumably the same as Lafayette if they win out too. With identical records, we are technically co-champs and while Laffy gets the auto bid due to our head-to-head loss, we are still co-champs and a win over an FBS team (Army) who upset a previously ranked FBS team (Air Force) and a close, 3 point loss to another bowl-bound FBS team, BC. Our losses would be by 3 points to the other league champ and a 10 point loss to probable IL champs, Harvard.
Are we guaranteed an at-large? Certainly not, but a strong argument can and should be made.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 6, 2023 9:59:52 GMT -5
Lafayette is 9-2 if they win out.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 6, 2023 10:24:30 GMT -5
Lafayette is 9-2 if they win out. A minor technicality!  My point remains the same even if the math was a bit off. |
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Post by timholycross on Nov 6, 2023 12:21:35 GMT -5
A 4-way tie between HC, Lafayette, Fordham and Georgetown I believe is mathematically possible. I think we would likely be the representative in this scenario (even with a 6-5 overall record) because after head-to-head the next tiebreaker would be record against 5th place team (probably Colgate). And since Lafayette and Georgetown LOST to Colgate, that would eliminate those two and pit HC v. Fordham -- and HC won that head to head. A 4 way tie would require HC to lose to Georgetown and be 1-2 against the fine institutions it would be tied with. Mathematically, 2 schools have to be 2-1 and the remaining school 1-2. Do not see any way that scenario ends up with Holy Cross as the auto bid awardee. The 5th place team shouldn't matter in that scenario. There could also be a 4 way tie w/Colgate in place of Fordham if the Rams beat LC and Colgate/Fordham goes in favor of the Raidahs; still a 4 way tie and HC still gets the short end of the stick. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 6, 2023 13:35:43 GMT -5
A 4-way tie between HC, Lafayette, Fordham and Georgetown I believe is mathematically possible. I think we would likely be the representative in this scenario (even with a 6-5 overall record) because after head-to-head the next tiebreaker would be record against 5th place team (probably Colgate). And since Lafayette and Georgetown LOST to Colgate, that would eliminate those two and pit HC v. Fordham -- and HC won that head to head. A 4 way tie would require HC to lose to Georgetown and be 1-2 against the fine institutions it would be tied with. Mathematically, 2 schools have to be 2-1 and the remaining school 1-2. Do not see any way that scenario ends up with Holy Cross as the auto bid awardee. The 5th place team shouldn't matter in that scenario. There could also be a 4 way tie w/Colgate in place of Fordham if the Rams beat LC and Colgate/Fordham goes in favor of the Raidahs; still a 4 way tie and HC still gets the short end of the stick. Yea, you're totally right. Lafayette and Georgetown would be the teams 2-1 against the others in that scenario...with Lafayette having the head-to-head over Georgetown. So, I believe Lafayette would get the auto-bid in that wild scenario. Thank you for the correction, my friend! If we replace Fordham with Colgate in the 4-way, the 2-1 teams become Colgate and Lafayette. And COLGATE would be going to the playoffs. |
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Post by Ignutz on Nov 6, 2023 19:23:11 GMT -5
A 4-way tie between HC, Lafayette, Fordham and Georgetown I believe is mathematically possible. I think we would likely be the representative in this scenario (even with a 6-5 overall record) because after head-to-head the next tiebreaker would be record against 5th place team (probably Colgate). And since Lafayette and Georgetown LOST to Colgate, that would eliminate those two and pit HC v. Fordham -- and HC won that head to head. A 4 way tie would require HC to lose to Georgetown and be 1-2 against the fine institutions it would be tied with. Mathematically, 2 schools have to be 2-1 and the remaining school 1-2. Do not see any way that scenario ends up with Holy Cross as the auto bid awardee. The 5th place team shouldn't matter in that scenario. There could also be a 4 way tie w/Colgate in place of Fordham if the Rams beat LC and Colgate/Fordham goes in favor of the Raidahs; still a 4 way tie and HC still gets the short end of the stick. If we don’t beat G’town, I don’t think we deserve to lay in the post-season. |
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Post by drjack on Nov 6, 2023 21:09:13 GMT -5
If we don't beat Georgetown we won't be in it even if we beat Army.
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