STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6

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STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 13:08:42 GMT -5

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STATS: theanalyst.com/na/2023/11/teams-behind-no-1-sdsu-in-fcs-top-25-poll-have-their-eyes-on-the-playoff-prize/

1. South Dakota State (9-0, 6-0 MVFC), 1,400 points (56 of 56 first-place votes)
2. Furman (8-1, 6-0 SoCon), 1,298
3. Montana (8-1, 5-1 Big Sky), 1,279
4. Idaho (7-2, 5-1 Big Sky), 1,265
5. Montana State (7-2, 5-1 Big Sky), 1,19
6. South Dakota (7-2, 5-1 MVFC), 1,110
7. North Carolina Central (8-1, 3-0 MEAC), 907
8. Delaware (7-2, 5-1 CAA), 870
9. Sacramento State (6-3, 3-3 Big Sky), 857
10. North Dakota (6-3, 4-2 MVFC), 812
11. Southern Illinois (6-3, 3-3 MVFC), 730
12. North Dakota State (6-3, 3-3 MVFC), 65
13.(tie) Florida A&M (8-1, 7-0 SWAC), 654
13.(tie) Villanova (7-2, 5-1 CAA), 654
15. Northern Iowa (6-3, 5-1 MVFC), 615
16. UIW (7-2, 4-1 Southland), 566
17. Western Carolina (6-3, 4-2 SoCon), 51
18. UAlbany (7-3, 5-1 CAA), 504
19. Chattanooga (7-3, 6-2 Southern), 490
20. Austin Peay (7-2, 4-0 UAC), 477
21. UT Martin (7-2, 4-1 Big South-OVC), 348
22. Youngstown State (6-3, 4-2 MVFC), 342
23. Mercer (7-3, 5-2 SoCon), 183
24. Harvard (7-1, 4-1 Ivy), 112
25. Lafayette (7-2, 3-1 Patriot), 90

Others Receiving Votes (schools listed on two or more ballots): Central Arkansas (6-3, 3-1 UAC) 75; Tarleton (7-3, 3-2 UAC) 47; Holy Cross (6-3, 4-1 Patriot) 43; Elon (5-4, 5-1 CAA) 41; Richmond (6-3, 5-1 CAA) 23; Nicholls (4-4, 5-0 Southland, including forfeit win) 15; William & Mary (5-4, 3-3 CAA) 13; Tennessee State (6-3, 2-2 Big South-OVC) 9

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STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 13:13:40 GMT -5

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Coaches Poll: www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/fcs-coaches-poll

1 South Dakota State (26) 9-0 650 1
2 Furman 8-1 612 2
3 Montana 8-1 603 3
4 Idaho 7-2 575 5
5 Montana State 7-2 533 8
6 South Dakota 7-2 492 12
7 North Carolina Central 8-1 491 9
8 Delaware 7-2 386 6
9 Florida A&M 8-1 378 T-13
10 UIW 7-2 368 4
11 Sacramento State 6-3 355 7
12 North Dakota 6-3 346 15
13 North Dakota State 6-3 324 10
14 Austin Peay 7-2 304 17
15 Southern Illinois 6-3 285 11
16 UT Martin 7-2 263 18
17 Chattanooga 7-3 258 T-13
18 Villanova 7-2 193 22
19 Harvard 7-1 191 19
20 Northern Iowa 6-3 161 23
21 Western Carolina 6-3 158 20
22 Holy Cross 6-3 129 21
23 Lafayette 7-2 91 16
24 Central Arkansas 6-3 79 25
25 Albany 7-3 67 NR

Others Receiving Votes: xxx

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hchoops Kaftan MOP Circle Posts: 23,649	STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 13:33:49 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by hchoops on Nov 6, 2023 13:33:49 GMT -5 the voters were unimpressed by our 4 point win at Lehigh in both polls. In the coaches’ poll N. Iowa and ‘Nova moved up over us. Do not recall where we were in the Stats poll last week, but 28 is not good.
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drjack Summa Cum Laude Posts: 790	STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 13:44:20 GMT -5 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by drjack on Nov 6, 2023 13:44:20 GMT -5 No real movement in the Stats poll, maybe some voters here and there, but we were one of the first few receiving votes.

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STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 13:45:32 GMT -5 hchoops, cruskater31, and 1 more like this

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Nov 6, 2023 13:33:49 GMT -5 hchoops said:

the voters were unimpressed by our 4 point win at Lehigh in both polls.
In the coaches’ poll N. Iowa and ‘Nova moved up over us.
Do not recall where we were in the Stats poll last week, but 28 is not good.

Shrug. Where we're at in the rankings today really means nothing if we don't beat Army. And I trust that if that happens we'll find ourselves back in the Top 25.

And I think the pollsters were fair. If the Holy Cross team that played in Bethlehem on Saturday instead had traveled to Northern Iowa or Villanova, we likely get thumped by 3 scores.

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cruskater31 Perry Two Millenia Club Posts: 2,876	STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 14:17:21 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by cruskater31 on Nov 6, 2023 14:17:21 GMT -5 Beat Army. If Lafayette falls to Fordham both polls don't mean a heck of a lot unless they want to send us out West for a first round game.
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hcpride Kaftan MOP Circle Posts: 7,200	STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 14:38:36 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by hcpride on Nov 6, 2023 14:38:36 GMT -5 Fordham's pretty much a goner from at-large consideration. Don't see them climbing back.

mm67 Johnny Turco Association Posts: 4,817	STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 14:56:11 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mm67 on Nov 6, 2023 14:56:11 GMT -5 It is unlikely for any non-champion PL team to get into the playoffs. Win the PL. Auto bid. Compete in playoffs. Polls are meaningless exercises by guys who live in their parents' basement.
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STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 15:00:35 GMT -5 via mobile

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Nov 6, 2023 14:38:36 GMT -5 hcpride said:

Fordham's pretty much a goner from at-large consideration. Don't see them climbing back.

If they win out, they'll be considered. 8-3 out of the PL with an FBS win versus a 7-4 CAA team is what it could come down to. At very least, they'll have a chance.

Unfortunately for them (but fortunately for us), if they beat Lafayette it will be less of a quality win than it would have otherwise been had they not blown it against Colgate.

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STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 15:25:44 GMT -5

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Nov 6, 2023 15:00:35 GMT -5 nycrusader2010 said:

Nov 6, 2023 14:38:36 GMT -5 hcpride said:

Fordham's pretty much a goner from at-large consideration. Don't see them climbing back.

If they win out, they'll be considered. 8-3 out of the PL with an FBS win versus a 7-4 CAA team is what it could come down to. At very least, they'll have a chance.

Unfortunately for them (but fortunately for us), if they beat Lafayette it will be less of a quality win than it would have otherwise been had they not blown it against Colgate.

My point was that the pollsters in these two polls are already considering the quality of their wins and that includes the FBS win - relative to other FCS teams (including CAA). And they are off both lists.

I took into consideration your second point.

Don't see them climbing back.

We're a one-bid league and this year won't be the exception that proves the rule.

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STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 15:36:49 GMT -5 via mobile

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Nov 6, 2023 15:25:44 GMT -5 hcpride said:

Nov 6, 2023 15:00:35 GMT -5 nycrusader2010 said:

If they win out, they'll be considered. 8-3 out of the PL with an FBS win versus a 7-4 CAA team is what it could come down to. At very least, they'll have a chance.

Unfortunately for them (but fortunately for us), if they beat Lafayette it will be less of a quality win than it would have otherwise been had they not blown it against Colgate.

My point was that the pollsters in these two polls are already considering the quality of their wins and that includes the FBS win - relative to other FCS teams (including CAA). And they are off both lists.

I took into consideration your second point.

Don't see them climbing back.

We're a one-bid league and this year won't be the exception that proves the rule.

That's a good point.

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STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 15:45:06 GMT -5 via mobile sader1970, ndgradbuthcfan, and 1 more like this

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Nov 6, 2023 15:25:44 GMT -5 hcpride said:

Nov 6, 2023 15:00:35 GMT -5 nycrusader2010 said:

If they win out, they'll be considered. 8-3 out of the PL with an FBS win versus a 7-4 CAA team is what it could come down to. At very least, they'll have a chance.

Unfortunately for them (but fortunately for us), if they beat Lafayette it will be less of a quality win than it would have otherwise been had they not blown it against Colgate.

My point was that the pollsters in these two polls are already considering the quality of their wins and that includes the FBS win - relative to other FCS teams (including CAA). And they are off both lists.

I took into consideration your second point.

Don't see them climbing back.

We're a one-bid league and this year won't be the exception that proves the rule.

The PL gets an at-large bid once every four or five years, so not entirely true.

HC at 8-3 gets an at-large, assuming Lafayette gets the auto bid.

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purplenurple Magna Cum Laude Posts: 294	STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 16:14:35 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by purplenurple on Nov 6, 2023 16:14:35 GMT -5 Fordham was an at-large last year; put up a solid fight against UNH.
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STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 16:48:55 GMT -5

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Nov 6, 2023 16:14:35 GMT -5 purplenurple said:

Fordham was an at-large last year; put up a solid fight against UNH.

I gotta say it. Fordham was the exception that proves the one-bid rule.

Although Fordham never led, they only lost by 10 (52-42).

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STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 16:57:29 GMT -5

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Nov 6, 2023 13:33:49 GMT -5 hchoops said:

the voters were unimpressed by our 4 point win at Lehigh in both polls.
In the coaches’ poll N. Iowa and ‘Nova moved up over us.
Do not recall where we were in the Stats poll last week, but 28 is not good.

Remained in the RV position but were dropped on 5 ballots

The competitiveness in the PL, which was mentioned earlier, might be great for fans but not so good for getting anything other than an auto bid. Hope I am wrong or we steal the auto bid so it doesn't matter.

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STATS and Coaches Poll 11/6 Nov 6, 2023 17:01:04 GMT -5 nycrusader2010 and cruskater31 like this

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Surprisingly our SOS with the two FBS games, positions us ahead of a handful of teams competing for at-large bids with two weeks to go. The only thing we can control is how we perform and do it one game at a time. So this weekend Beat Army!!

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