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Post by hcpride on Nov 15, 2023 10:47:01 GMT -5
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Post by alum on Nov 15, 2023 11:05:20 GMT -5
Per your suggestion, I closely perused the bios from the Harvard page and of the group as a whole. (link below) It would seem to me that each is extraodinary but, other than the vague criteria in Mr. Rhodes' will, I don't see a particular pattern. What is it that you believe the committee is seeking at this time? Criteria: literary and scholastic attainments;
energy to use one's talents to the full;
truth, courage, devotion to duty, sympathy for and protection of the weak, kindliness, unselfishness and fellowship;
moral force of character and instincts to lead, and to take an interest in one's fellow beings.
Profiles of all winners: www.rhodeshouse.ox.ac.uk/media/47894/winners_bios_2023.pdf |
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Post by mm67 on Nov 15, 2023 11:46:36 GMT -5
No HC recipients this year? No interest on my part. Peace.
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Post by dadominate on Nov 15, 2023 13:00:24 GMT -5
Per your suggestion, I closely perused the bios from the Harvard page and of the group as a whole. (link below) It would seem to me that each is extraodinary but, other than the vague criteria in Mr. Rhodes' will, I don't see a particular pattern. What is it that you believe the committee is seeking at this time? for those with a focus on racial and gender equity, one pattern in the harvard link that they might notice is an underrepresentation of caucasians and the lack of any caucasian males, in particular. although not seeing any pattern is admirable. like me, i am sure you agree that forcing equity on the basis of superficial characteristics is divisive and that we should not consider race and gender in our evaluation of the appropriateness of candidates for admission, employment, awards, etc. |
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Post by alum on Nov 15, 2023 14:23:06 GMT -5
Per your suggestion, I closely perused the bios from the Harvard page and of the group as a whole. (link below) It would seem to me that each is extraodinary but, other than the vague criteria in Mr. Rhodes' will, I don't see a particular pattern. What is it that you believe the committee is seeking at this time? for those with a focus on racial and gender equity, one pattern in the harvard link that they might notice is an underrepresentation of caucasians and the lack of any caucasian males, in particular. although not seeing any pattern is admirable. like me, i am sure you agree that forcing equity on the basis of superficial characteristics is divisive and that we should not consider race and gender in our evaluation of the appropriateness of candidates for admission, employment, awards, etc. Several thoughts but no cohesive thesis on this: 1. What would Cecil Rhodes think of these students? 2. An allegation in the FAIR lawsuit against Harvard was that Asian Americans were underrepresented at Harvard. Is the allegation here that Asian Americans are overrepresented in Rhodes reciepients? 3. Once a decisionmaker determines that a group of people are qualified to receive a prestigious scholarship, how does one choose among them? If there are 100 students with 3.9+ GPAs who have started organzations, received patents, worked with Ebola patients, etc., is it really possible to rank those students in a meaningful way? Should one student get it because she had a 3.94 over another student who has a 3.93? I don't see where Mr. Rhodes said that was necessary. In fact, the criteria are not particularly objective. It seems to me that at that point, it is not illegal, immoral, etc to choose, for example, a first generation student or a student from a more deprived background. 4. Take a look at your local high school's top ten students at graduation time. Invariably, it is at least eight girls. Are they just trying harder? Are they smarter? Are they the beneficiaries of teacher biases against boys in middle school because of behavior issues? 5. I found this array of last year's winners (they are referred to as the 2023 group) Plenty of white American men among this group. www.rhodeshouse.ox.ac.uk/scholars-alumni/rhodes-scholar-bios/ |
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