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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 19, 2023 10:39:46 GMT -5
Dino Babers out at Syracuse.
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Post by gks on Nov 19, 2023 10:44:24 GMT -5
If Syracuse doesn't interview Chesney they're absolute idiots.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 19, 2023 10:57:39 GMT -5
Not a place many would want to live
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Post by hcpride on Nov 19, 2023 11:02:41 GMT -5
Not necessarily a shock given all the losing but it is interesting timing (one [winnable] game left in the season).
I'm sure they'd pay a new coach north of 2M (Babers seems to earn 3-4M).
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Post by mm67 on Nov 19, 2023 11:05:28 GMT -5
Hasn't Syracuse been a graveyard for coaches, lately? It seems Syracuse has been a career ender for head coaches. I don't have the facts.
Remember hearing from an eyewitness that at a meeting the AD told alums Syracuse recruits athlete-students not student-athletes. He quite frankly stated Syracuse athletes go to Syracuse to advance their professional athletic careers. The school's goal is to prepare these athletes for the pros. Would Chesney personally prosper (not merely$) in a professionalized setting?
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Post by HC92 on Nov 19, 2023 11:14:09 GMT -5
Whenever I think of where Chesney might go next, I always think of the cautionary tale of Mark Duffner at Maryland. What works at HC may not work at a P5 school that is well behind other P5 schools in terms of location, facilities, history of success, etc. and where the culture may be tougher to build because the kids are much more concerned about their own pro aspirations than being a part of their school/local community. But, if Chesney wants to get a top P5 job, he’s going to have to do it somewhere else at the FBS level first.
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Post by gks on Nov 19, 2023 11:23:50 GMT -5
Chesney is a football coach that wants to coach at the highest level.
He could care less about Mark Duffner and his tale of woe.
He took over an HC program that was in the dumps and more than likely many said don't touch it.
He took over an Assumption program that was an absolute dumpster fire...can almost guarantee many said don't touch it.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 19, 2023 11:33:29 GMT -5
A generalization and certainly not always the case
But
The higher the conference and level of play, the more you become a manager of a program and baby sitter of the key players and problem children on the team. You are not coaching as much and performing a CEO type of role- externally engaged and delegating daily football operations to an assistant head coach
Money is great but not to sure that is what Chesney is about, and the game would lose a terrific leader of men
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 19, 2023 12:12:20 GMT -5
A generalization and certainly not always the case But The higher the conference and level of play, the more you become a manager of a program and baby sitter of the key players and problem children on the team. You are not coaching as much and performing a CEO type of role- externally engaged and delegating daily football operations to an assistant head coach Money is great but not to sure that is what Chesney is about, and the game would lose a terrific leader of men Chesney strikes me as being more like an IL coach. Long tenure. Has smart kids who stay with a program for four years generally. Players who aren't dreaming of NFL careers. Or bigger NILs. He is good friends with Stiegelmeier, and based on an interview with them both, they share a similar philosophy and approach to coaching. gojacks.com/staff-directory/john-stiegelmeier/34 |
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 19, 2023 12:14:19 GMT -5
Two key issues: NIL and Transfer Portal. It is almost essential at the FBS level to rebuild quickly through the portal. Today, fans and administrators don't seem to have much patience of waiting 4 years for recruits to develop. I'd like to see Ches finish his career at HC but I would be happy for the PA native to someday take the reigns of Penn State. I don't think an experiment at Cuse gets him that job.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Nov 19, 2023 12:20:49 GMT -5
He absolutely deserves an interview but will be a longer shot. So many good G5 head coaches also deserving of a promotion. The job that I keep watching that is probably open in a year or 2 is Temple. He would be a great fit there and it’s a logical next step.
G5 and PA roots.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 19, 2023 12:25:14 GMT -5
A generalization and certainly not always the case But The higher the conference and level of play, the more you become a manager of a program and baby sitter of the key players and problem children on the team. You are not coaching as much and performing a CEO type of role- externally engaged and delegating daily football operations to an assistant head coach Money is great but not to sure that is what Chesney is about, and the game would lose a terrific leader of men Chesney strikes me as being more like an IL coach. Long tenure. Has smart kids who stay with a program for four years generally. Players who aren't dreaming of NFL careers. Or bigger NILs. He is good friends with Stiegelmeier, and based on an interview with them both, they share a similar philosophy and approach to coaching. gojacks.com/staff-directory/john-stiegelmeier/34I actually don't think Chesney has any interest in the Ivy. There's a ceiling. He wants to coach for championships. Can't do that there. You're also dead wrong that a bunch of kids at Ivy League schools don't dream of the NFL. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 19, 2023 12:46:09 GMT -5
Chesney strikes me as being more like an IL coach. Long tenure. Has smart kids who stay with a program for four years generally. Players who aren't dreaming of NFL careers. Or bigger NILs. He is good friends with Stiegelmeier, and based on an interview with them both, they share a similar philosophy and approach to coaching. gojacks.com/staff-directory/john-stiegelmeier/34I actually don't think Chesney has any interest in the Ivy. There's a ceiling. He wants to coach for championships. Can't do that there. You're also dead wrong that a bunch of kids at Ivy League schools don't dream of the NFL. I was comparing him to an IL coach, Reno has been at Yale for 11 years. I can remember on the predecessor board chatter about him becoming the HC head coach because he was a local guy, Worcester State. Reno will likely be at Yale for many years to come. They may dream about the NFL, but they are not looking at the NFL as a career choice for 10-20 years. Do you think Florida State has a 90-wide program or similar for its football players? |
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Post by cmo on Nov 19, 2023 12:57:50 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Nov 19, 2023 12:59:04 GMT -5
Whenever I think of where Chesney might go next, I always think of the cautionary tale of Mark Duffner at Maryland. What works at HC may not work at a P5 school that is well behind other P5 schools in terms of location, facilities, history of success, etc. and where the culture may be tougher to build because the kids are much more concerned about their own pro aspirations than being a part of their school/local community. But, if Chesney wants to get a top P5 job, he’s going to have to do it somewhere else at the FBS level first. But to play devil’s advocate and taking a longer view, Duff was at HC for about 10 years as Asst/Head coach, Maryland for about 5 well paid years as Head Coach, and has been in the NFL ever since. Perhaps he wouldn’t be in the NFL without the Maryland experience and he does seem to really enjoy the NFL. After all, he doubtlessly could have returned to FCS after Maryland if he loved FCS so much. Perhaps it is not a cautionary tale. |
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Post by newfieguy74 on Nov 19, 2023 12:59:27 GMT -5
Chesney is a football coach that wants to coach at the highest level. He could care less about Mark Duffner and his tale of woe. He took over an HC program that was in the dumps and more than likely many said don't touch it. He took over an Assumption program that was an absolute dumpster fire...can almost guarantee many said don't touch it. How is it that you know what he wants? |
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 19, 2023 13:18:37 GMT -5
Very hazardous going into the FBS cesspool with ‘bidding’ for recruits with NIL dollars - things have really changed in the last three years
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 19, 2023 13:20:15 GMT -5
Chesney shared that mother told him to find happiness where he is at in the present (paraphrasing) so there is no indication he has a single minded desire to coach at the highest level. Wouldn't blame him if he left for a better paying job with a higher profile and ceiling, but nobody has articulated the value of Holy Cross better than Coach Chesney when he says "You can have it all at Holy Cross."
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Post by gks on Nov 19, 2023 13:21:50 GMT -5
He wants to coach at the highest level. People can believe that he wants to coach the Ivies or stay at HC forever and are entitled to their opinions.
Just do a Twitter/X search of Bob Chesney right now. He's all over Syracuse rumors and many Orange prognosticators say he should be the coach.
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Post by gks on Nov 19, 2023 13:23:35 GMT -5
Chesney strikes me as being more like an IL coach. Long tenure. Has smart kids who stay with a program for four years generally. Players who aren't dreaming of NFL careers. Or bigger NILs. He is good friends with Stiegelmeier, and based on an interview with them both, they share a similar philosophy and approach to coaching. gojacks.com/staff-directory/john-stiegelmeier/34I actually don't think Chesney has any interest in the Ivy. There's a ceiling. He wants to coach for championships. Can't do that there. You're also dead wrong that a bunch of kids at Ivy League schools don't dream of the NFL. The vision that many here on this board have of the Ivies is laughable. |
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Post by newfieguy74 on Nov 19, 2023 14:25:53 GMT -5
He wants to coach at the highest level. People can believe that he wants to coach the Ivies or stay at HC forever and are entitled to their opinions. Just do a Twitter/X search of Bob Chesney right now. He's all over Syracuse rumors and many Orange prognosticators say he should be the coach. Unless BC has told you what he wants you don't know what that is. Personally, I have no idea what he wants. I suspect you don't either. |
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Post by thecrossisback on Nov 19, 2023 14:28:00 GMT -5
Chesney shared that mother told him to find happiness where he is at in the present (paraphrasing) so there is no indication he has a single minded desire to coach at the highest level. Wouldn't blame him if he left for a better paying job with a higher profile and ceiling, but nobody has articulated the value of Holy Cross better than Coach Chesbey when he says "You can have it all at Holy Cross." You can't not win the league and make the FCS playoffs. |
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Post by thecrossisback on Nov 19, 2023 14:28:53 GMT -5
He wants to coach at the highest level. People can believe that he wants to coach the Ivies or stay at HC forever and are entitled to their opinions. Just do a Twitter/X search of Bob Chesney right now. He's all over Syracuse rumors and many Orange prognosticators say he should be the coach. 100 percent agree. He is more likely to be gone. What else is there to accomplish at HC. Plus no grad school at HC. |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 19, 2023 15:20:19 GMT -5
Very hazardous going into the FBS cesspool with ‘bidding’ for recruits with NIL dollars - things have really changed in the last three years It's coming to FCS and even the PL. Probably starts at Fordham, Colgate to follow. |
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 19, 2023 15:26:52 GMT -5
Chesney shared that mother told him to find happiness where he is at in the present (paraphrasing) so there is no indication he has a single minded desire to coach at the highest level. Wouldn't blame him if he left for a better paying job with a higher profile and ceiling, but nobody has articulated the value of Holy Cross better than Coach Chesbey when he says "You can have it all at Holy Cross." You can't not win the league and make the FCS playoffs. Fordham didn't get your memo last year. |
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