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Post by drjack on Dec 12, 2023 19:12:57 GMT -5
That sucks about DiMike, though I'm not surprised. Does this mean everyone else is staying, or do we think that's just a first wave?
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Post by gks on Dec 12, 2023 19:13:09 GMT -5
What's interesting to me, is what made Chesney so successful at HC? Was it his offensive or defensive philosophy, both? His ability to recruit and/or develop talent at HC? His building of a culture? For me, it's hard to pinpoint exactly. Probably an amalgamation of all these things. Same thing that made him successful at Assumption. He recruits above the expectations of the program's level. Some on this board watched his Assumption teams. He sent Greyhounds to the NFL. The talent he had on Shrewsbury Street was outstanding. Did the same at HC. Brought in great football players that thrived at HC. He'll do the same at JMU. It's what he does.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 12, 2023 19:16:16 GMT -5
I think Cannon and Grautski are probably sure to go - they are Chesney guys from the beginning. Would Ches risk standing by hiring such a young OC in Kennedy at JMU, regardless of how good he is? Of all the coaches, I really hope DiMichele stays - he bleeds purple (eschewing thought of JMU's colors), is great at recruiting, and mainly, he is HC family. Wouldn't blame any of the coaches for leaving for more money. They have families and/or deserve higher compensation. It would be great if the rest stayed - consistency of winning culture will beget more winning. Overall, I would like Kit to make the right choice on coach rather than rush into a decision, even if that risks some hits to one recruiting class. Waiting to get it right will cause less of a hit at HC than at Football Factory U.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 12, 2023 19:19:02 GMT -5
What's interesting to me, is what made Chesney so successful at HC? Was it his offensive or defensive philosophy, both? His ability to recruit and/or develop talent at HC? His building of a culture? For me, it's hard to pinpoint exactly. Probably an amalgamation of all these things. Same thing that made him successful at Assumption. He recruits above the expectations of the program's level. Some on this board watched his Assumption teams. He sent Greyhounds to the NFL. The talent he had on Shrewsbury Street was outstanding. Did the same at HC. Brought in great football players that thrived at HC. He'll do the same at JMU. It's what he does. Salisbury Street, but I'm sure the Assumption players made as many trips to Shrewsbury Street restaurants as they could.🙂
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 12, 2023 19:19:48 GMT -5
DiMike is really like a Chesney in his persona. Love the guy and happy for him if he's getting a chance to move on up the ladder. He's such a good recruiter that's a huge blow in the process when you don't have your HC. Going to lean on James.
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Post by alum on Dec 12, 2023 19:30:10 GMT -5
DiMike, Canan and Kennedy are gone. Told the team. Do we think that is it? Grautski staying?
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Post by cross99 on Dec 12, 2023 19:32:58 GMT -5
DiMike, Canan and Kennedy are gone. Told the team. Do we think that is it? Grautski staying? No, Grautski is gone.
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Post by hc1998 on Dec 12, 2023 19:56:07 GMT -5
Also kind of imperative we get our hire situated soon, otherwise we're going to cleaned out of coaches by Bob and really struggling to regroup. Not to diminish the impact/import of our coaches, but don't we want a coach who could dictate who his assistants are and bring his own?
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Post by drjack on Dec 12, 2023 20:03:09 GMT -5
I'm moreso worried about retention of players/recruits/future commits. I don't believe we're as insulated from the new era of college football as some people are.
I'd very much like a new coach to bring in his own choice of people, I just think we're better off if we wrap this up quickly
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Post by trimster on Dec 12, 2023 20:38:48 GMT -5
What's interesting to me, is what made Chesney so successful at HC? Was it his offensive or defensive philosophy, both? His ability to recruit and/or develop talent at HC? His building of a culture? For me, it's hard to pinpoint exactly. Probably an amalgamation of all these things. Chesney is the total package. Great charisma and personality. A great salesman in a good way which translates into being a great recruiter and someone his players would run thru a wall for. (Sorry for ending in a preposition.) X's and O's are secondary but he excels in that area as well. He's a unicorn HC was fortunate to have. Truly a tough act to follow.
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Post by gks on Dec 12, 2023 20:40:23 GMT -5
Same thing that made him successful at Assumption. He recruits above the expectations of the program's level. Some on this board watched his Assumption teams. He sent Greyhounds to the NFL. The talent he had on Shrewsbury Street was outstanding. Did the same at HC. Brought in great football players that thrived at HC. He'll do the same at JMU. It's what he does. Salisbury Street, but I'm sure the Assumption players made as many trips to Shrewsbury Street restaurants as they could.🙂 Good grief. What an stupid mistake. And I claim to be a local.....
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 12, 2023 21:50:58 GMT -5
Today’s Courier Journal had article from USA Today “Ranking The Best College Football Hires”. Bob Chesney ranks #8 of the 18 listed hires. Mendenhall to New Mexico was #1
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Post by hc1996 on Dec 12, 2023 22:40:39 GMT -5
Watched the press conference. Seeds are being planted to bring KH to JMU. I can sense it.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 12, 2023 22:59:09 GMT -5
Bob Chesney is established a record of success year after year at three colleges. Has Kit Hughes demonstrated success as an AD for Multiple years?
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Post by hc87 on Dec 12, 2023 23:03:18 GMT -5
It sucks....but let's be real....is Chesney the only coach in America that can coach at a great school like like Holy Cross, with facilities bettah than many, with an administration and alumni fully behind the program? I think not.
Onward and upwards. We'll be fine.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 12, 2023 23:31:05 GMT -5
It sucks....but let's be real....is Chesney the only coach in America that can coach at a great school like like Holy Cross, with facilities bettah than many, with an administration and alumni fully behind the program? I think not. Onward and upwards. We'll be fine. So why does Holy Cross have only ONE conference title since 1991 without Chesney?
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Post by hc87 on Dec 13, 2023 10:55:09 GMT -5
It sucks....but let's be real....is Chesney the only coach in America that can coach at a great school like like Holy Cross, with facilities bettah than many, with an administration and alumni fully behind the program? I think not. Onward and upwards. We'll be fine. So why does Holy Cross have only ONE conference title since 1991 without Chesney? Because we abandoned football scholarships from 1992-2014 primarily.....a scholarship football Holy Cross is one of the best programs in all of FCS.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 13, 2023 11:07:19 GMT -5
It sucks....but let's be real....is Chesney the only coach in America that can coach at a great school like like Holy Cross, with facilities bettah than many, with an administration and alumni fully behind the program? I think not. Onward and upwards. We'll be fine. So why does Holy Cross have only ONE conference title since 1991 without Chesney? To be fair, we're pretty bad or mediocre in most varsity sports over the last forty years. Football is one. So that is consistent. Did have a nice Carter/Duff run ('81 - '91) and now Chesney. ('18-'23)
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Post by 78purple on Dec 13, 2023 20:54:49 GMT -5
Today’s Courier Journal had article from USA Today “Ranking The Best College Football Hires”. Bob Chesney ranks #8 of the 18 listed hires. Mendenhall to New Mexico was #1 Strange that Mendenhall walked away from UVa a couple of years ago ( with the program on the rise and a Sluka-esque QB ) and now resurfaces.......NM ain't Uva
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 13, 2023 21:24:51 GMT -5
While #18 seems to low with that high ceiling at JMU (but not unlimited considering they are still Sun Belt and not P4), can't argue with Bronco M being a steal for NM. Ultimately, we really can't judge anything until Spring Ball and then the actual games on the field.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 14, 2023 13:43:02 GMT -5
Ches will be able to recruit anyone he wants - he's going from HC's 21 pct acceptance rate to JMU's (2021) 86 pct. He'll be dealing with a different type of student athlete. I've been monitoring twitter and the JMU site for articles and videos and still have not heard once a mention of 'let's get these players thru the final exams before we talk about plans for 2024'
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 14, 2023 15:29:25 GMT -5
Full-circle reality at the JMU Bowl game Dec 23 where Chesney will be present (not actively coaching) when the Dukes take on Air Force, and AD Nate Pine, who hired Chesney will certainly be in attendance.
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Post by 78purple on Dec 14, 2023 20:46:50 GMT -5
Ches will be able to recruit anyone he wants - he's going from HC's 21 pct acceptance rate to JMU's (2021) 86 pct. He'll be dealing with a different type of student athlete. I've been monitoring twitter and the JMU site for articles and videos and still have not heard once a mention of 'let's get these players thru the final exams before we talk about plans for 2024' Yeah, academic standing will no longer be an impediment in BC's new world
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Post by 78purple on Dec 14, 2023 20:50:32 GMT -5
Full-circle reality at the JMU Bowl game Dec 23 where Chesney will be present (not actively coaching) when the Dukes take on Air Force, and AD Nate Pine, who hired Chesney will certainly be in attendance. I was struck by that coincidence as well.....unbelievably small world....can't make it up
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Post by hcpride on Dec 14, 2023 21:07:00 GMT -5
For those interested in coach compensation: Cignetti will earn a $500,000 base salary every year through the end of his contract on November 30, 2029. Cignetti will also earn an average of $3.75 million in annual outside marketing and promotional income, as well as an annual $250,000 retention bonus beginning on November 30, 2024.www.thedailyhoosier.com/details-on-curt-cignettis-contract-with-indiana/All sorts of performance bonuses and perks too.
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