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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 8, 2023 7:51:51 GMT -5
Discussed Discovered a new data base this morning. For public universities, the data base includes athletics spending by category, e.g., coaches salaries, and athletics revenue, by category. For private colleges and universities, the breakout of revenue and expenses by category is not displayed (the explanation is that the institution has not made the data publicly available. The data is extracted from the annual NCAA Revenue and Expense Report. I believe these reports are 'discoverable' for public universities under state FOIA statutes. The data covers 2017-2022. For the University of Massachusetts, for the 2021-22 fiscal year, I've displayed below generated revenue for several categories. These illustrate why UMass and other FBS schools without substantial revenue streams are going to swim in the brackish, NCAA backwaters under Charlie Baker's proposal. Total revenue: $53.64 millionTicket sales $1.6 million NCAA/Conference distributions, media rights: $2.27 million Competition guarantees $3.24 million Donor contributions $2.9 million (The CAF at HC) Student fees $10.26 million About 40 percent of UMass revenues are categorized as generated revenues (including the $10 million in student fees). The remaining cost of the athletic program is subsidized by the state and/or the institution. (HC does not have a dedicated student fee to help underwrite the cost of intercollegiate athletics. At JMU, IIRC, it is about $2,600 per student for the current academic year, and is a mandatory fee to be paid by ALL students.) Source for UMass data: knightnewhousedata.org/fbs/ind/university-of-massachusetts-amherst#!quicktabs-tab-where_the_money-1 Basic source for data for all Division I schools. knightnewhousedata.org/fbsI looked up HC, Dartmouth, and BC. No revenue breakout as the data is not public. I looked up UConn, but thought that UMass might be a better example for those wondering how much revenue HC might generate for selected categories. I did not look up JMU. Have fun. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 8, 2023 8:45:56 GMT -5
For JMU, which is classified as FCS
Total revenue $57.8M
Student fees $45.5M
Donor contributions $3.8M
NCAA / Conference distributions; media rights; post-season football $1.7M
Ticket sales $3.6M
University of Delaware
Total Revenue $48M
Donor Contributions $711K
NCAA Conference distributions , media rights, post-season football $1.5M
Ticket sales $1.6M
(Institutional/government support (subsidy) $41.9M
For Bill and Mary, several numbers that might be of interest
Donor contributions $4.9M
Ticket sales $700K
Old Dominion's donor contributions are over $10M
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 8, 2023 9:55:36 GMT -5
Unbelievable for Bill and Mary! $4.9M donor contributions? Granted their ticket sales lag behind JMU and Delaware, but geesh those must be some deep pocketed alums. I didn't realize UD received $1.5M in distributions. I realize we are a private institution and those guys are all publics, but any idea what our NCAA/media/post-season distributions are?
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Post by Gordie1 on Dec 8, 2023 10:12:06 GMT -5
Some of you may not be aware but the Department of Education recently began requiring all Division 1 programs to release baseline operating expense and revenue data (reason being Tit. The data backdates to ~2002 (dependent upon school I believe) and gives a very straightforward breakdown of expenses. Unfortunately, the "revenue" is not as straightforward, as it aggregates donor contributions and student fees into their final "revenue" number. Take a look below. ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/institution/details |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 8, 2023 10:40:55 GMT -5
Unbelievable for Bill and Mary! $4.9M donor contributions? Granted their ticket sales lag behind JMU and Delaware, but geesh those must be some deep pocketed alums. I didn't realize UD received $1.5M in distributions. I realize we are a private institution and those guys are all publics, but any idea what our NCAA/media/post-season distributions are? HC receives $XXX from the NCAA for having x sports above the minimum. The conference distributions would include media rights, e.g., the ESPN+ package, Hockey East, AHL, plus HC's media rights from the Worcester Spectrum station. I do not know if HC received extra money for the game that was nationally broadcast on ESPN2. One might get an inkling of the NCAA post-season distributions by looking at SDSU. The Jackrabbits generated revenue in 2021-22 included: Ticket sales $4.5 million NCAA / conference distributions, Media rights, Post-season football $2.0 million Donors $2.6 million Corporate sponsors, licensing, etc. $1.7 million For 2021-2022 SDSU football expenses / FCS median (public univ. only?) / HC / JMUTotal expenses $7.3 million / $4.3 million / $7.1 million / $11.1 million Coaches compensation $1.3 million / $1.2 million / NA / $2.25 million |
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 8, 2023 10:42:18 GMT -5
Discussed a new data base this morning. For public universities, the data base includes athletics spending by category, e.g., coaches salaries, and athletics revenue, by category. For private colleges and universities, the breakout of revenue and expenses by category is not displayed (the explanation is that the institution has not made the data publicly available. The data is extracted from the annual NCAA Revenue and Expense Report. I believe these reports are 'discoverable' for public universities under state FOIA statutes. The data covers 2017-2022. For the University of Massachusetts, for the 2021-22 fiscal year, I've displayed below generated revenue for several categories. These illustrate why UMass and other FBS schools without substantial revenue streams are going to swim in the brackish, NCAA backwaters under Charlie Baker's proposal. Total revenue: $53.64 millionTicket sales $1.6 million NCAA/Conference distributions, media rights: $2.27 million Competition guarantees $3.24 million Donor contributions $2.9 million (The CAF at HC) Student fees $10.26 million About 40 percent of UMass revenues are categorized as generated revenues (including the $10 million in student fees). The remaining cost of the athletic program is subsidized by the state and/or the institution. (HC does not have a dedicated student fee to help underwrite the cost of intercollegiate athletics. At JMU, IIRC, it is about $2,600 per student for the current academic year, and is a mandatory fee to be paid by ALL students.) Source for UMass data: knightnewhousedata.org/fbs/ind/university-of-massachusetts-amherst#!quicktabs-tab-where_the_money-1 Basic source for data for all Division I schools. knightnewhousedata.org/fbsI looked up HC, Dartmouth, and BC. No revenue breakout as the data is not public. I looked up UConn, but thought that UMass might be a better example for those wondering how much revenue HC might generate for selected categories. I did not look up JMU. Have fun. UNH Students pay an Athletics Fee of 1,075.00 PER YEAR. This is in addition to a recreation fee of 710.00 and a Whittemore Center fee of 136.00. www.unh.edu/business-services/tuition-fees/undergraduate-tuition-fees-durham-campus |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 8, 2023 10:45:07 GMT -5
Discussed a new data base this morning. For public universities, the data base includes athletics spending by category, e.g., coaches salaries, and athletics revenue, by category. For private colleges and universities, the breakout of revenue and expenses by category is not displayed (the explanation is that the institution has not made the data publicly available. The data is extracted from the annual NCAA Revenue and Expense Report. I believe these reports are 'discoverable' for public universities under state FOIA statutes. The data covers 2017-2022. For the University of Massachusetts, for the 2021-22 fiscal year, I've displayed below generated revenue for several categories. These illustrate why UMass and other FBS schools without substantial revenue streams are going to swim in the brackish, NCAA backwaters under Charlie Baker's proposal. Total revenue: $53.64 millionTicket sales $1.6 million NCAA/Conference distributions, media rights: $2.27 million Competition guarantees $3.24 million Donor contributions $2.9 million (The CAF at HC) Student fees $10.26 million About 40 percent of UMass revenues are categorized as generated revenues (including the $10 million in student fees). The remaining cost of the athletic program is subsidized by the state and/or the institution. (HC does not have a dedicated student fee to help underwrite the cost of intercollegiate athletics. At JMU, IIRC, it is about $2,600 per student for the current academic year, and is a mandatory fee to be paid by ALL students.) Source for UMass data: knightnewhousedata.org/fbs/ind/university-of-massachusetts-amherst#!quicktabs-tab-where_the_money-1 Basic source for data for all Division I schools. knightnewhousedata.org/fbsI looked up HC, Dartmouth, and BC. No revenue breakout as the data is not public. I looked up UConn, but thought that UMass might be a better example for those wondering how much revenue HC might generate for selected categories. I did not look up JMU. Have fun. UNH Students pay an Athletics Fee of 1,075.00 PER YEAR. This is in addition to a recreation fee of 710.00 and a Whittemore Center fee of 136.00. www.unh.edu/business-services/tuition-fees/undergraduate-tuition-fees-durham-campusI looked up UNH in the Knight-Newhouse database, but I decided to let you report on the sources of UNH revenue. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 8, 2023 10:47:37 GMT -5
I looked up UNH in the Knight-Newhouse database, but I decided to let you report on the sources of UNH revenue. I am well versed of the UNH fleecing of the student population. I was recently up there covering an event and had a current student tell me (I did ask why she had a negative UNH Housing sign at a Men's Soccer game) they are not guarenteeing housing for students all four years anymore. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 8, 2023 10:52:21 GMT -5
Some of you may not be aware but the Department of Education recently began requiring all Division 1 programs to release baseline operating expense and revenue data (reason being Tit. The data backdates to ~2002 (dependent upon school I believe) and gives a very straightforward breakdown of expenses. Unfortunately, the "revenue" is not as straightforward, as it aggregates donor contributions and student fees into their final "revenue" number. Take a look below. ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/institution/detailsAn example of the shortcomings of the Title IX database is the amount spent on football coaches salaries. The Knight-Newhouse database breaks out the total coaches' salaries (both head and assistant) for football. The Title IX Dept. of Education database aggregates coaches salaries to totals for all sports. Thus, the head coach's salary for football, basketball, soccer, golf, etc. etc. is summed to a single total; the same for the assistant coaches' salaries. |
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 8, 2023 10:52:38 GMT -5
I looked up UNH in the Knight-Newhouse database, but I decided to let you report on the sources of UNH revenue. I am well versed of the UNH fleecing of the student population. I was recently up there covering an event and had a current student tell me (I did ask why she had a negative UNH Housing sign at a Men's Soccer game) they are not guarenteeing housing for students all four years anymore. Live free or die, but not in State funded housing. |
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 8, 2023 10:55:40 GMT -5
Looking at ticket revenue from all these schools, Holy Cross is not in the entertainment business and neither are most schools.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 8, 2023 11:07:18 GMT -5
Some of you may not be aware but the Department of Education recently began requiring all Division 1 programs to release baseline operating expense and revenue data (reason being Tit. The data backdates to ~2002 (dependent upon school I believe) and gives a very straightforward breakdown of expenses. Unfortunately, the "revenue" is not as straightforward, as it aggregates donor contributions and student fees into their final "revenue" number. Take a look below. ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/institution/detailsAn example of the shortcomings of the Title IX database is the amount spent on football coaches salaries. The Knight-Newhouse database breaks out the total coaches' salaries (both head and assistant) for football. The Title IX Dept. of Education database aggregates coaches salaries to totals for all sports. Thus, the head coach's salary for football, basketball, soccer, golf, etc. etc. is summed to a single total; the same for the assistant coaches' salaries. Solving for x using reported expenses in the Title IX database for HC: HC spent probably spent about $1 million on coaches salaries for football in 2021-02. This was before the BC contract extension and bump up in football coaches salaries. The knowns are total expenses for football and operating expenses for football. One can make a reasonable assumption about financial aid by multiplying number of full scollies x cost of attendance, making an assumption of how much of the $350,000 spent on men's recruiting was for football. The remainder is the amount spent on coaches compensation. |
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