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Post by longsuffering on Dec 27, 2023 22:04:36 GMT -5
I loved Tom and Dick Smothers. R.I P. Tom. Your mother did not like your brother best.🙂
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Post by 78purple on Dec 27, 2023 23:15:04 GMT -5
I loved Tom and Dick Smothers. R.I P. Tom. Your mother did not like your brother best.🙂 Classic TV. Roger Daltrey and The Who on the Smothers Brothers Show in '67 |
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Post by fz on Dec 28, 2023 10:27:38 GMT -5
You can add the Doors The Airplane & many more that showed up on the show. Interesting that their father was a West Point grad.Also Jim Morrison of the Doors father was a USNA grad.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Dec 28, 2023 10:29:54 GMT -5
I recall the Brothers had a huge battle with the network about Pete Seeger singing Waist Deep in the Big Muddy. In the end he sang the song on the show but it probably contributed to the ultimate cancellation of the show.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 28, 2023 12:07:56 GMT -5
That show was also blacked out in some states. It did hasten the end of their show.
May Tom's soul rest in peace and his loved ones find comfort in this time of loss.
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Post by fz on Dec 28, 2023 12:48:15 GMT -5
So there was Woke states back then.Who knew
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Post by newfieguy74 on Dec 28, 2023 14:14:14 GMT -5
So there was Woke states back then.Who knew The word "woke" is such a lazy word, but I gather you're using it as a pejorative to deride a song that opposed the Vietnam War. You were in favor of the war, I assume. |
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Post by Tom on Dec 28, 2023 14:25:54 GMT -5
So there was Woke states back then. Who knewApparently the Who did know back in '67 Clowning aside, Pete Seeger appeared on many a black list. although I think that was more of a 60's thing. The stigma might have worn off some by the time the Smothers had him on, but it at one point, it would have been a gutsy call to invite Pete Seeger on your show |
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Dec 28, 2023 14:39:41 GMT -5
The States that blacked out the show were the antithesis of "woke" and on the wrong side of history, too.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Dec 28, 2023 14:54:32 GMT -5
So there was Woke states back then. Who knewApparently the Who did know back in '67 Clowning aside, Pete Seeger appeared on many a black list. although I think that was more of a 60's thing. The stigma might have worn off some by the time the Smothers had him on, but it at one point, it would have been a gutsy call to invite Pete Seeger on your show Pete Seeger finally appeared on February 25, 1968. He was originally taped for an appearance in September of 1967, but CBS would not allow the performance to be aired. In February of 1968, it was still a courageous call by the Smother Brothers to have him appear. It was a month before LBJ announced that he would not seek reelection, on March 31, 1968. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waist_Deep_in_the_Big_Muddy |
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 28, 2023 18:26:21 GMT -5
The States that blacked out the show were the antithesis of "woke" and on the wrong side of history, too. Part of the controversy was because the song was about a drill sergeant who led his platoon into a swamp where several died of drowning. Some family members did not like the connection to those deaths to Viet Nam. Be careful trying to paint all in that controversy with support or opposition to the Vet Nam war. Also, hard to say who was on the "wrong side of history" without knowing the detals of that individual. |
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Dec 28, 2023 21:57:33 GMT -5
As posted above, on Feb. 25, 1968 Seeger appeared again on the Smother's show and sang "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy". This time the censors did not object. Two days later Walter Cronkite broadcasted that "we are mired in a stalemate". Upon learning this, LBJ reportedly said "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost the country, and withdrew from the race.
Many, including me, feel this song helped end the Viet Nam War.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 29, 2023 10:09:21 GMT -5
Always think of the song when someone or some group stubbornly clings to a losing position.
There used to be a character on the show called Officer Judy. Bob Epstein, Albert Brooks' brother; more famous for being Funkhouser in Curb Your Enthusiasm.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 29, 2023 16:12:31 GMT -5
As posted above, on Feb. 25, 1968 Seeger appeared again on the Smother's show and sang "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy". This time the censors did not object. Two days later Walter Cronkite broadcasted that "we are mired in a stalemate". Upon learning this, LBJ reportedly said "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost the country, and withdrew from the race. Many, including me, feel this song helped end the Viet Nam War. When Tip O'Neill turned against the war my father did, too. I can't remember if that was before or after Cronkite. |
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