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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 13, 2024 19:23:55 GMT -5
While the Common Data Set is not yet out, HC At a Glance has the 25-75th percentiles for verbal and math.
Math 640-720
Verbal 660-730
Compared to class of 2026
Math 620-710
Verbal 640-720
Composite
Class of 2026 1260-1430
Class of 2027 1300-1450
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Post by hcpride on Feb 14, 2024 7:33:38 GMT -5
Given our 'test score optional' policy (wherein kids with higher SAT scores wisely tend to submit and kids with lower SAT scores wisely tend to not submit) and the fact some of the kids who submit may submit ACT scores, the SAT stat is a bit wobbly. Both those factors can shift a bit year to year. But certainly a move up may be a good thing. And those ranges may help a kid next cycle who is wondering whether to submit or not to submit their SAT/ACT scores to HC.
HC At a Glance indicates ACT Composite as 29-34.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 14, 2024 8:23:54 GMT -5
Dartmouth in its review that led to ending test-optional, went back and reviewed the SAT scores of every applicant, both accepted and rejected. This is apparently easy for a school to do.
Which now makes me wonder whether HC is reporting the test scores of the entire accepted class, and has done that historically. This would explain why HC, as a test optional school, reported that EIGHT percent of the class that entered in the fall of 2021 had composite SAT scores of under 1000. (Seven members of the class had a composite SAT score between 400-599.) In my own mind, I thought the most likely explanation was that someone had deliberately sabotaged the numbers.
This was the class that was greatly affected by COVID-related conversion to remote learning, an inability of admissions staff and applicants to travel, etc., etc.
This ability to look back at the SAT/ACT scores of all admitted students also explains how HC is able to calculate the school-wide Academic Index of each enrolling class.
For comparison, for the class that entered in the fall of 2020, there were no composite SAT scores below 1000, and 6.9 percent of the class had composite scores between 1000 and 1100.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 14, 2024 8:51:11 GMT -5
Also to be considered is that all recruited athletes have to submit SAT/ACT scores to pass the NCAA Clearinghouse standards for eligibility.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 14, 2024 9:05:08 GMT -5
A composite score under 600 would be in the bottom 1% of all test takers. I cannot imagine that any HC student would have such a score and I’d have to guess that any such student would struggle even with grade school classes
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Post by hcpride on Feb 14, 2024 9:09:20 GMT -5
Dartmouth in its review that led to ending test-optional, went back and reviewed the SAT scores of every applicant, both accepted and rejected. This is apparently easy for a school to do. If a school requires submitted SAT/ACT scores (Dartmouth, pre Covid for example) this would be VERY possible (w/quick conversion formula for those who went with ACT scores). I’d assume a school doesn’t have access to individual non-submitted standardized scores…don’t know about some sort of aggregate data. Beyond that, don’t see HC budging from ‘test score optional’ no matter the MIT/Dartmouth data and conclusions. For a number of reasons. |
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Post by hcpride on Feb 14, 2024 9:14:05 GMT -5
Also to be considered is that all recruited athletes have to submit SAT/ACT scores to pass the NCAA Clearinghouse standards for eligibility. No. Not any more. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 14, 2024 11:10:14 GMT -5
A composite score under 600 would be in the bottom 1% of all test takers. I cannot imagine that any HC student would have such a score and I’d have to guess that any such student would struggle even with grade school classes Composite score 400-599: 0.9% of the enrolling class of 800+ Composite score 600-799: 4.9 % Composite score 800-999: 2.2% This distribution is not what I expect to see, which makes me suspect there were issues/problems in how the test was administered. during the peak of the COVID epidemic. Another guess is that foreign students perhaps took the SAT instead of the Test of English as a Foreign Language. Occasionally, I have seen Common Data Sets that are subsequently updated / corrected. I can't believe at this stage if these values were entered in error, that this would not have been caught and corrected by now. |
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