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Post by rgs318 on Feb 26, 2024 7:31:05 GMT -5
It sounds as though the fan was upset not by the Black National Anthem but by the women then sitting down during our actual National Anthem.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 26, 2024 8:58:49 GMT -5
I was at the game on Saturday. Prior to the start of the game, and after the recognition of the seniors for both schools,” Lift Every Voice and Sing” was played, followed by the Irish National Anthem, the Canadian National Anthem and the Star Spangled Banner. Each song had wonderful displays of the lyrics or the national flag. I was sitting above the HC team and did not see, hear or witness the incident described. I was in Hart early and stayed until the end of the game. If this occurred, it was not much of a flurry, and I give little credence to the tale. The game was certainly not delayed or interrupted. By the way, “Loft Every Voice and Sing” lyrics are displayed on the video board prior to the game. The song by James Weldon Johnson has wonderful lyrics and melody, and the rendition played at the Hart this month is very pleasant to listen. The lyrics can be found in the link below, and as you can see is non racial or political. poets.org/poem/lift-every-voice-and-singhttps://poets.org/poem/lift-every-voice-and-sing
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Post by hc6774 on Feb 26, 2024 9:45:33 GMT -5
It sounds as though the fan was upset not by the Black Naional Anthem but by the women then sitting down during our actual National Anthem. In the 80's/90's there was an alum season ticketholder & friend who would sit and continue conversation during the anthem. He was well known local activist & pacifist. I believe he was arrested once on the Connecticut River protesting the construction of submarines in Groton. We were members of the same parish.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 26, 2024 11:54:50 GMT -5
It sounds as though the fan was upset not by the Black National Anthem but by the women then sitting down during our actual National Anthem. Reading "the black national anthem" is like reading "the five legged man," neither of which is possible in my little pea brain. I hope Christian Nationalists don't respond with their own national anthem and that starts being played and called that at BB games at Christian colleges and other conservative schools. Play "Lift every voice" and other fine songs but don't call it the black national anthem would be my policy if I was Vince. Too dangerous with the country still reeling from the recent insurrection imo.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 26, 2024 15:38:41 GMT -5
Since this is still February, a month which the accomplishments are celebrated for a people who were purposely hidden or erased for the most part in textbooks and media until 70 years ago, here are a couple of facts about Lift Every Voice and Sing. If you are at the basketball game against Colgate on Wednesday, you will enjoy the rendition played.
Who originally sang Lift Every Voice and Sing? As part of a celebration of Abraham Lincoln's birthday on February 12, 1900, “Lift Every Voice and Sing” was first publicly performed by 500 school children at the Stanton School in Jacksonville, Florida. The school principal, James Weldon Johnson, wrote the words and Johnson's brother Rosamond set them to music.
Why is Lift Every Voice and Sing considered the black national anthem? In 1919, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) dubbed "Lift Every Voice and Sing" the "Negro national anthem", for its power in voicing a cry for liberation and affirmation for African American people.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 26, 2024 16:09:02 GMT -5
Since this is still February, a month which the accomplishments are celebrated for a people who were purposely hidden or erased for the most part in textbooks and media until 70 years ago, here are a couple of facts about Lift Every Voice and Sing. If you are at the basketball game against Colgate on Wednesday, you will enjoy the rendition played. Who originally sang Lift Every Voice and Sing? As part of a celebration of Abraham Lincoln's birthday on February 12, 1900, “Lift Every Voice and Sing” was first publicly performed by 500 school children at the Stanton School in Jacksonville, Florida. The school principal, James Weldon Johnson, wrote the words and Johnson's brother Rosamond set them to music. Why is Lift Every Voice and Sing considered the black national anthem? In 1919, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) dubbed "Lift Every Voice and Sing" the "Negro national anthem", for its power in voicing a cry for liberation and affirmation for African American people. Let us hope the song's long history attached to a noble cause insulates it from the strife that greeted "Black Lives Matter." History isn't much respected by some agitators today.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 26, 2024 18:02:43 GMT -5
There was some mention during the post game of Callie Wright singing the Canadian Anthem before the game. Possible that's what you're referring to? Hope that's available on the website. "Oh Canada" is a beautiful anthem. Rene Rancourt, retired Boston Garden anthem singer, sang both anthems before an HC hockey game at the Hart rink one time I believe. Unless I was in an alternate universe while attending the game, Callie was not a soloist for Oh Canada. The three national anthems, Ireland, 🇮🇪, Canada, 🇨🇦 and USA, 🇺🇸, were played with their respective national flag waving on the three video boards, and were without a vocalist.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 26, 2024 18:15:36 GMT -5
Hope that's available on the website. "Oh Canada" is a beautiful anthem. Rene Rancourt, retired Boston Garden anthem singer, sang both anthems before an HC hockey game at the Hart rink one time I believe. Unless I was in an alternate universe while attending the game, Callie was not a soloist for Oh Canada. The three national anthems, Ireland, 🇮🇪, Canada, 🇨🇦 and USA, 🇺🇸, were played with their respective national flag waving on the three video boards, and were without a vocalist. Maybe HC isn't getting full value out of the new Prior Center for the Performing Arts and affiliated academic offerings. Unless there are students studying voice who would enjoy the opportunity to perform but there is poor coordination between athletics and other departments. A job listing for one of the AD openings was posted on Crossports and it stressed the requirement for all departments to work together to further the overall mission of the college. Maybe student vocalists and choral groups demurred. It's just a nice touch when other students are involved in the game day, it's not that big a deal as the multimedia production was excellent I'm sure. Maybe communication major student interns helped produce the pre-game program.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 26, 2024 18:44:43 GMT -5
This year / this month, I really missed hearing the full "I have a dream" speech of Rev Dr MLK. Don Imus of Imus in the Morning played the full speech every year on MLK's birthday.
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Post by HCFC45 on Feb 26, 2024 22:02:36 GMT -5
I was at the game on Saturday. Prior to the start of the game, and after the recognition of the seniors for both schools,” Lift Every Voice and Sing” was played, followed by the Irish National Anthem, the Canadian National Anthem and the Star Spangled Banner. Each song had wonderful displays of the lyrics or the national flag. I was sitting above the HC team and did not see, hear or witness the incident described. I was in Hart early and stayed until the end of the game. If this occurred, it was not much of a flurry, and I give little credence to the tale. The game was certainly not delayed or interrupted.By the way, “Loft Every Voice and Sing” lyrics are displayed on the video board prior to the game. The song by James Weldon Johnson has wonderful lyrics and melody, and the rendition played at the Hart this month is very pleasant to listen. The lyrics can be found in the link below, and as you can see is non racial or political. poets.org/poem/lift-every-voice-and-singhttps://poets.org/poem/lift-every-voice-and-singCrucis: You are a dear and well respected friend! I can assure you that this did happen and the person who was expressing his anger at the 2 women fans ( not players) was either asked to leave and/or escorted out of the building! It may not have been much of a flurry and did not delay or interrupt the game but it did happen! My source may not have seen the entire event but did see the man taking out his anger on these 2 women. That’s why I asked if anyone here may have witnessed the entire incident and could relay what they saw….
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 27, 2024 5:26:45 GMT -5
HCFC45, not doubting you heard the story, just wondering where in the Hart this incident occurred. On Saturday, I was sitting in a different location near where I believe could have been the two Women mentioned. During the playing of the anthems, I was looking at the video boards, and the teams. If the location was in back of the Navy bench, my vision would have been obscured. Otherwise, I did not hear or see the incident. If I did, I would have certainly would have called out the issue, and would have discussed it with several people immediately after the occurrence.
We can discuss offline.
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Post by HCFC45 on Feb 27, 2024 8:44:59 GMT -5
Thanks! Will check on where this happened and get back...
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Post by HCFC45 on Mar 3, 2024 20:14:35 GMT -5
Crucis: apologies for not getting back on this sooner, but wanted to make sure I had what happened correct... The two women were in the bleachers back to back to the concession stand... they were to the right of those sitting on the Navy team's bench. The men were sitting up in the seats to the right of the Navy team's bench, in the area above the scoreboard in the corner. The 2 black women stood for all the songs/anthems and then sat for the national anthem. The small group of men above them called them out on their sitting with some harsh words. They must have had some connection to the military, asindicated by the emblems they had on their top wear. Almost immediately and quickly they were escorted out of the Hart BB arena. That's what I know...
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 3, 2024 20:31:57 GMT -5
Crucis: apologies for not getting back on this sooner, but wanted to make sure I had what happened correct... The two women were in the bleachers back to back to the concession stand... they were to the right of those sitting on the Navy team's bench. The men were sitting up in the seats to the right of the Navy team's bench, in the area above the scoreboard in the corner. The 2 black women stood for all the songs/anthems and then sat for the national anthem. The small group of men above them called them out on their sitting with some harsh words. They must have had some connection to the military, asindicated by the emblems they had on their top wear. Almost immediately and quickly they were escorted out of the Hart BB arena. That's what I know... "they were escorted out of the arena". You mean the hecklers were ejected not the women sitting for the anthem, right? That's what I support. Standing for the national anthem is a custom and show of respect but should never be mandated.
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Post by HCFC45 on Mar 3, 2024 20:44:07 GMT -5
Thought I was clear on that... yes the men were taken out and not the 2 women...
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Post by zukowsky12 on Mar 3, 2024 20:49:56 GMT -5
Wow
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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 4, 2024 11:48:55 GMT -5
HCFC45: Thank you for your investigative regarding the event at the most recent WBB game against Navy. I was sitting under the large video board near the HC bench and missed the confrontation at the other end of the court near the Navy bench. It’s unfortunate that the song continues to divide the opinion of many due to the author as well as a reference as being interpreted to defending slavery in the third stanza. www.dictionary.com/e/star-spangled-banner/It is also unfortunate that instead of trying to understand why the two women were sitting down as the Star Spangled Banner was being played, and approach them in a civilized manner after the anthem was played, the men involved immediately launch a confrontation. Francis Scott Key, had a less than admirable background regarding enslaved people. Key was a founding member and active leader of the American Colonization Society (ACS), whose primary goal was to send free black people to Africa. In order to understand the opposition to the man and how his words in both poetry and in the courtroom as a lawyer, continues to divide the United States, it is essential that people not act with animosity as the men did at the game, but seek an understanding of the intellectual facts of why he was a less than honorable. One can start by reading this article written in the Smithsonian Magazine, July 1, 2016. www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/wheres-debate-francis-scott-keys-slave-holding-legacy-180959550/As well as the summations from Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Scott_Key
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 4, 2024 12:47:30 GMT -5
I removed my sentence about the ushers maintaining decorum. I wasn't there and it seems like it was a minor issue with many not even noticing.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 4, 2024 12:52:57 GMT -5
HCFC45: Thank you for your investigative regarding the event at the most recent WBB game against Navy. I was sitting under the large video board near the HC bench and missed the confrontation at the other end of the court near the Navy bench. It’s unfortunate that the song continues to divide the opinion of many due to the author as well as a reference as being interpreted to defending slavery in the third stanza. www.dictionary.com/e/star-spangled-banner/It is also unfortunate that instead of trying to understand why the two women were sitting down as the Star Spangled Banner was being played, and approach them in a civilized manner after the anthem was played, the men involved immediately launch a confrontation. Francis Scott Key, had a less than admirable background regarding enslaved people. Key was a founding member and active leader of the American Colonization Society (ACS), whose primary goal was to send free black people to Africa. In order to understand the opposition to the man and how his words in both poetry and in the courtroom as a lawyer, continues to divide the United States, it is essential that people not act with animosity as the men did at the game, but seek an understanding of the intellectual facts of why he was a less than honorable. One can start by reading this article written in the Smithsonian Magazine, July 1, 2016. www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/wheres-debate-francis-scott-keys-slave-holding-legacy-180959550/As well as the summations from Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Scott_KeyI have resolved in my mind that even though our founding principles of democracy excluded all but white men, the same original documents and principles apply to everyone now and work just as well.
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