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Post by Tom on Feb 26, 2024 8:45:38 GMT -5
The weekend action clarified the picture, though not in the way I had hoped
In order for HC to avoid travelling to the play in game:
HC wins out and either Army or Navy loses at least one game OR HC goes 1-1 and either Army or Navy lose out
To avoid the play in game altogether:
HC must win out AND both Army and Navy lose a game AND either BU or Bucknell lose out
It looks to me that the most probable scenario has HC playing either Army or Navy in the play in game - both of whom swept HC
You might recall 2 years ago American finished tied for last, but they seemed to have HC's number that year and by the end of the season literally half of their wins against PL opponents came against HC
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Post by nhteamer on Feb 26, 2024 11:17:38 GMT -5
It's the PL What happens if everybody loses every game?
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 26, 2024 12:03:37 GMT -5
It's the PL What happens if everybody loses every game? An investigation is launched.
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 26, 2024 12:44:00 GMT -5
If everyone is healthy, no reason not to win a play in game on the road.
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 26, 2024 12:52:21 GMT -5
If everyone is healthy no reason to doubt we’ll enter our road play-in game as an underdog and play like one and lose - Fellas, that’s the likely scenario
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Post by trimster on Feb 26, 2024 13:08:43 GMT -5
If everyone is healthy no reason to doubt we’ll enter our road play-in game as an underdog and play like one and lose - Fellas, that’s the likely scenario I agree. It is highly likely the bballs get put away a week from tomorrow. (Of course in today's age, the balls never get put away, at least for long. What a commitment these men and women make).
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 26, 2024 13:13:37 GMT -5
If everyone is healthy, no reason not to win a play in game on the road. Also, no reason not to lose.
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Post by Tom on Feb 26, 2024 13:24:38 GMT -5
If everyone is healthy, no reason not to win a play in game on the road. People were more or less healthy yesterday. If this inconsistent team plays well next Tuesday, they should be able to win. They still need to play well
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Post by hc87 on Feb 26, 2024 13:28:31 GMT -5
I thought this thread would be about moving forward next year. Miracles do happen, but I think the 23-24 post-season campaign lasts one, maybe two games at best. I know some good guards/wings are coming in next year but our primary need is upfront. Kenney has been terrific but imagine how good he'd be if had more help upfront both offensively and defensively? Hopefully the Hare kid pans out and the other bigs improve but a good transfer 4 or 5 could change things dramatically for this program. Back to work....carry on.
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Post by Tom on Feb 26, 2024 14:10:36 GMT -5
I thought this thread would be about moving forward next year. Miracles do happen, but I think the 23-24 post-season campaign lasts one, maybe two games at best. I know some good guards/wings are coming in next year but our primary need is upfront. Kenney has been terrific but imagine how good he'd be if had more help upfront both offensively and defensively? Hopefully the Hare kid pans out and the other bigs improve but a good transfer 4 or 5 could change things dramatically for this program. Back to work....carry on. Based on Coulibaly's lack of participation in senior day, I suspect there are no scholarships available unless someone slated to be on the team next year leaves through the portal
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 26, 2024 14:42:55 GMT -5
For one season Louth is a good investment compared to a current high school senior available to a low mid major. I hope he gets a full healthy season to actualize his potential.
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Post by Tom on Feb 26, 2024 15:53:09 GMT -5
For one season Louth is a good investment compared to a current high school senior available to a low mid major. I hope he gets a full healthy season to actualize his potential. Pretty close to a full healthy season this year. 26 out of 29 games played. Only two players have played in every game,
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 26, 2024 18:35:21 GMT -5
For one season Louth is a good investment compared to a current high school senior available to a low mid major. I hope he gets a full healthy season to actualize his potential. Pretty close to a full healthy season this year. 26 out of 29 games played. Only two players have played in every game, Williams and Kenney I think..
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Post by timholycross on Feb 26, 2024 18:39:58 GMT -5
If everyone is healthy, no reason not to win a play in game on the road. People were more or less healthy yesterday. If this inconsistent team plays well next Tuesday, they should be able to win. They still need to play well Wills wasn't and Batch had a subpar game. Wills was sorely missed yesterday. Any idea what the recovery time is for whatever ails his finger?
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Post by armsue on Feb 27, 2024 11:28:53 GMT -5
The question that comes to me is the program’s trajectory. Does HCDP raise the optimism for next season and beyond? Thoughts?
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 27, 2024 11:43:42 GMT -5
I would say yes, he does. I like seeing how the team has developed this year (as opposed to recent years) and I believe we have some good talent on the way thanks to his staff's recruiting.
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Post by Tom on Feb 27, 2024 12:41:04 GMT -5
The question that comes to me is the program’s trajectory. Does HCDP raise the optimism for next season and beyond? Thoughts? The W-L record this season is not dissimilar to years past. That being said, some of the wins (American, BU, and Bucknell) feel like games that HC would not have found a way to win in recent years. For that reason, I will say "yes"
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 27, 2024 12:46:47 GMT -5
Limiting portal defections after the season will be telling. DP already saved Bo last off-season which is encouraging.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 27, 2024 12:47:51 GMT -5
And considering the team lost one of the most dominant HC players in some years in Gerrale, the progress is significant. The clearest evidence is Caleb.
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Post by Ray on Feb 27, 2024 12:50:07 GMT -5
If anyone thinks this first season is some kind of new experience for Paulsen:
Bucknell: 2008 (Flannery): 12-19 2009 (Paulsen): 7-23 2010 (Paulsen): 14-17 2011 (Paulsen): 25-9 2012 (Paulsen): 25-10 2013 (Paulsen): 28-6
Mason: 2015 (Hewitt): 9-22 2016 (Paulsen): 11-21 2017 (Paulsen): 20-14 2018 (Paulsen): 16-17 2019 (Paulsen): 18-15
CDP has more than a bit of experience with rough first years in new gigs. Ironically, it took longer to turn things around at Bucknell, but he reached a much higher ceiling there, with a quicker turn to 20 wins at Mason that proved not sustainable.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 27, 2024 15:23:24 GMT -5
Limiting portal defections after the season will be telling. DP already saved Bo last off-season which is encouraging. I'd rather not lose kids who aren't playing/aren't playing well in addition to those that the majority of us think are promising. Unless it's 100% their decision. The optics are so bad at this point, it's not worth opening up a spot for that sort of thing.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 27, 2024 15:33:31 GMT -5
If anyone thinks this first season is some kind of new experience for Paulsen: Bucknell: 2008 (Flannery): 12-19 2009 (Paulsen): 7-23 2010 (Paulsen): 14-17 2011 (Paulsen): 25-9 2012 (Paulsen): 25-10 2013 (Paulsen): 28-6 Mason: 2015 (Hewitt): 9-22 2016 (Paulsen): 11-21 2017 (Paulsen): 20-14 2018 (Paulsen): 16-17 2019 (Paulsen): 18-15 CDP has more than a bit of experience with rough first years in new gigs. Ironically, it took longer to turn things around at Bucknell, but he reached a much higher ceiling there, with a quicker turn to 20 wins at Mason that proved not sustainable. I think DP's situation when he took over at Bucknell was VERY different than the situation he inherited at HC. Yes, Bucknell had gone 12-19 the previous year, but the three previous years, which were still fresh in the minds of the players DP's staff recruited, were: 2007 (Flannery) 22-9 (13-1 PL) - reguar season co-champ 2006 (Flannery) 27-5 (14-0 PL) - regular season champ, PLT winner 2005 (Flannery) 23-10 (10-4 PL) - PLT winner Also note that those teams played FAR tougher schedules than any that a Brett Nelson team played. And all three teams were in the nation's top 100 (Pomeroy). As you likely recall, the 2006 team finished in the nation's top 25 in the USA Today Coaches Poll. That kind of success was only 13 months removed when the DP era began at Bucknell and they began recruiting. One further piece of background info is that the 2008 team was plagued by injury. Their starting center suffered a serious knee injury halfway through the season. Starting PF tore his ACL in July - returned in less than 5 1/2 months but was not the same player. Part-time starting wing tore MCL and missed significant time. Part-time starting SG had several different injuries and saw very limited playing time. And during this time, Flannery was battling serious health issues that eventually forced him to step down. So it was a down year, but certainly not a program that had collapsed, and there were two highly recruited players about to arrive. One other thing that helped the DP regime recruit was the Bucknell fan base and arena. Despite the bad year in 2007-08, BU still averaged 3400 fans per game - the best in the PL by a wide margin - and was playing in the nicest arena in the PL. All of that helped recruiting, as Bucknell was way ahead of most northeastern mid-majors in those categories. It was a great job to inherit, which is why they had a huge number of applicants, including Joe and James Jones, Sean Kearney (who thankfully was quickly eliminated), and a bunch of others with name recognition.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 28, 2024 8:04:55 GMT -5
Forgot that the year after HC beat Bucknell in the PLT final, the Bison struggled as well.
That was the year HC lost Doherty and Vander Bomb for long periods of time and never really got their act together.
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