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Post by midwestsader05 on May 9, 2024 12:20:34 GMT -5
No Ivies. Does he not include them or is speculation that the IL will suck this year? Don’t know about ‘suck’ but not good enough for this top 25 projection (ditto Holy Cross). The better Ivies need robust OOCs to land good rankings mid season and check out Princeton’s marshmallow OOC: Lehigh, Howard, Mercer. Mercer is very good talent wise. They finished T-2 in the Southern Conference last year and went to the 2nd round of the playoffs. One of the better OOC Ivy opponents. Also, Howard is no longer a pushover. While the Bison did get thumped by Harvard and we know what it’s like to play your D game when Harvard plays their A, Howard lost to an 8-5 Northwestern team 23-20, Eastern Michigan 33-23 (while dominating the stat sheet) and FAMU 30-26 in the celebration bowl. They blew out playoff bound NC Central 50-20 to win the MEAC. You might want to go pick on another Ivies OOC but not Princeton’s.
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Post by longsuffering on May 9, 2024 12:24:31 GMT -5
Villanova is a similar trip as Lehigh, Lafayette, Colgate and shorter than Georgetown or Bucknell. They fit PL FB geographically like a glove.
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Post by hcpride on May 9, 2024 15:56:07 GMT -5
Don’t know about ‘suck’ but not good enough for this top 25 projection (ditto Holy Cross). The better Ivies need robust OOCs to land good rankings mid season and check out Princeton’s marshmallow OOC: Lehigh, Howard, Mercer. Mercer is very good talent wise. They finished T-2 in the Southern Conference last year and went to the 2nd round of the playoffs. One of the better OOC Ivy opponents. Also, Howard is no longer a pushover. While the Bison did get thumped by Harvard and we know what it’s like to play your D game when Harvard plays their A, Howard lost to an 8-5 Northwestern team 23-20, Eastern Michigan 33-23 (while dominating the stat sheet) and FAMU 30-26 in the celebration bowl. They blew out playoff bound NC Central 50-20 to win the MEAC. You might want to go pick on another Ivies OOC but not Princeton’s. In the context of the particular ranking we were referencing and Princeton’s upcoming OOC, Mercer may be ‘very good talent wise’ but they’re not in the top 25 (ditto Howard and, of course, Lehigh). At the same time, Mercer may very well be one of the better OOC Ivy opponents.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 9, 2024 16:18:48 GMT -5
Yeah, Mercer is far from a push over. Top 25 program these days.
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Post by midwestsader05 on May 9, 2024 16:47:05 GMT -5
Mercer is very good talent wise. They finished T-2 in the Southern Conference last year and went to the 2nd round of the playoffs. One of the better OOC Ivy opponents. Also, Howard is no longer a pushover. While the Bison did get thumped by Harvard and we know what it’s like to play your D game when Harvard plays their A, Howard lost to an 8-5 Northwestern team 23-20, Eastern Michigan 33-23 (while dominating the stat sheet) and FAMU 30-26 in the celebration bowl. They blew out playoff bound NC Central 50-20 to win the MEAC. You might want to go pick on another Ivies OOC but not Princeton’s. In the context of the particular ranking we were referencing and Princeton’s upcoming OOC, Mercer may be ‘very good talent wise’ but they’re not in the top 25 (ditto Howard and, of course, Lehigh). At the same time, Mercer may very well be one of the better OOC Ivy opponents. I would like to make a Side bet right now that if Princeton beats Mercer at Mercer, which means they would likely start 4-0, they will leap frog into not just the top 25 the following week…but maybe even top 20. Those of us that follow and watch FCS football outside of just the Northeast know Mercer has DUDES. They finished #17 in the final STATS media poll last year and #20 in the coaches poll. How can you say this would not be a big résumé boosting win for Princeton?
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Post by longsuffering on May 9, 2024 17:01:47 GMT -5
For the New England Ivies, Harvard has Stetson, UNH and Holy Cross. Not chopped liver. Last year the Hatters played both St. Thomas University (FL) and the University of St. Thomas (MN) but I'm not doubting it will be a win for the Johnnies as Stetson is coming off a 3-8 season. UNH and HC will be challenging opponents.
Yale has Central Connecticut, Lehigh and Holy Cross. A little more shabby.
Dartmouth has Fordham, Merrimack and Central CT. State. Perhaps they are ducking two of their closest long time opponents that Harvard isn't, UNH and HC.
Brown has Georgetown, Bryant and URI. They aren't ducking their in-state CAA teams.
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Post by hcpride on May 9, 2024 17:17:10 GMT -5
In the context of the particular ranking we were referencing and Princeton’s upcoming OOC, Mercer may be ‘very good talent wise’ but they’re not in the top 25 (ditto Howard and, of course, Lehigh). At the same time, Mercer may very well be one of the better OOC Ivy opponents. I would like to make a Side bet right now that if Princeton beats Mercer at Mercer, which means they would likely start 4-0, they will leap frog into not just the top 25 the following week…but even top 20. Those of us that follow and watch FCS football outside of just the Northeast know Mercer has DUDES. They finished #17 in the final STATS media poll last year and #20 in the coaches poll. How can you say this would not be a big résumé boosting win for Princeton?If Princeton time travelled and played them last year, a win would be a boost. If I understand you. Depending on how Mercer does next year, Princeton may or may not get much of a boost in the rankings if they defeat Mercer. (Mercer made the FCS playoffs for the first time in program history last year and 17/20 is a very nice final ranking for them. The Analyst (Craig Haley’s) “Too Early” Top 25 predicts they'll be out of the top 25 next year but you never know.)
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Post by princetoncrusader on May 9, 2024 17:29:52 GMT -5
Princeton has for at least the last 5 years played at least one Pioneer league foe, so this is a good upgrade for the Tigers.
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Post by hc87 on May 10, 2024 19:27:03 GMT -5
Dartmouth had Army scheduled next season I believe but with Army joining the AAC(?) , they had to drop the Indians.
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Post by cruskater31 on May 14, 2024 10:04:47 GMT -5
Dartmouth had Army scheduled next season I believe but with Army joining the AAC(?) , they had to drop the Indians. Dartmouth is currently looking at a 10 game schedule. Did they replace the Army game? I think the Merrimack game may be the replacement.
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Post by purplehaze on May 14, 2024 10:14:01 GMT -5
10 game slate is the IVY max and yes, Merrimack replaces AWP
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Post by lou on May 15, 2024 8:11:19 GMT -5
Heard that HC @ Syracuse is Family Weekend at Syracuse. All hotel rooms sold out
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Post by longsuffering on May 15, 2024 9:16:51 GMT -5
Heard that HC @ Syracuse is Family Weekend at Syracuse. All hotel rooms sold out Quoting Jack Benny, "Rochester!"🙂
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Post by midwestsader05 on May 15, 2024 14:02:38 GMT -5
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Post by crusader1970 on May 15, 2024 15:49:56 GMT -5
I'd love to see Joe Pesansky on that list by season's end.
Based on what I saw at Fordham last year, he can really toss it.
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Post by hc87 on May 15, 2024 17:38:10 GMT -5
Heard that HC @ Syracuse is Family Weekend at Syracuse. All hotel rooms sold out Quoting Jack Benny, "Rochester!"🙂 Maybe the only college football board in America where many get this joke Well played longsuff
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Post by midwestsader05 on May 16, 2024 10:42:43 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on May 16, 2024 10:46:42 GMT -5
It seems that we will not be pre-season #1 in the PL poll. Maybe #2 ?
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Post by efg72 on May 16, 2024 12:29:00 GMT -5
I think we start the season ranked #3 in the PL
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Post by Ignutz on May 16, 2024 12:34:11 GMT -5
What has hurt the experts' impression of 2024 HC football more: the departure of talent (Dobbs, Sluka, Chesney, Coker, Hanson, et al) or our 7-4 record in 2023 (with two three-point losses to FBS foes and a similar spread in losing to PL co-Champ/#20 forecasted Lafayette)?
Maybe we'll be better with a chip on our collective shoulder and with no target on our collective back.
Bring 'em on!
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Post by Ignutz on May 16, 2024 12:35:15 GMT -5
I think we start the season ranked #3 in the PL Rams or Raiders in the #2 slot?
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Post by bfoley82 on May 16, 2024 12:36:28 GMT -5
I think we start the season ranked #3 in the PL So my theory on the Chesney decline sounds like it is starting this fall?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 16, 2024 12:38:06 GMT -5
I think we start the season ranked #3 in the PL I'll take a guess at the PL preseason poll -- Lafayette Fordham HC Colgate Lehigh Bucknell Georgetown
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 16, 2024 12:39:31 GMT -5
I think we start the season ranked #3 in the PL So my theory on the Chesney decline sounds like it is starting this fall? Theory? LOL. We lost a bunch of guys to the NFL, FBS, and graduation. That might have something to do with a lower ranking.
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Post by midwestsader05 on May 16, 2024 12:42:30 GMT -5
What has hurt the experts' impression of 2024 HC football more: the departure of talent (Dobbs, Sluka, Chesney, Coker, Hanson, et al) or our 7-4 record in 2023 (with two three-point losses to FBS foes and a similar spread in losing to PL co-Champ/#20 forecasted Lafayette)?
Maybe we'll be better with a chip on our collective shoulder and with no target on our collective back.
Bring 'em on! It’s 100% the former and would be even with Ches for another year. Also, Newman, Schon, McMurtrie (4 total all PL or AA OL) plus Spence and Haskins (yes he was injured last year but still).
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