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Post by Crucis#1 on Apr 30, 2024 16:44:49 GMT -5
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Post by Chu Chu on Apr 30, 2024 16:57:59 GMT -5
This is an interesting development, but I guess it really doesn't change anything for us. |
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 30, 2024 18:17:00 GMT -5
I hope Kit and the Kitmunks🙂 up in the Luth Administrative Offices understand how lucky HC is to have Crusader Women's Hockey in Hockey East. Looking at the locations of the women's division members of AHA, HC gains so much from being in H.E. The geographic footprint of the women's division of H.E. is like throwing a pebble into the water in Worcester and watching the ripples extend to the rest of the league. The women are also ambassadors to Hockey East for HC men's hockey in a sense, so I hope they can start winning and moving up in the standings.
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 30, 2024 21:39:48 GMT -5
This is an interesting development, but I guess it really doesn't change anything for us. Atlantic Hockey was already running CHA before....just brings them under one name. |
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 30, 2024 23:37:14 GMT -5
Why did the announcement come from Naples, Fl.? The league office is in the Boston area, right?
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Post by cruskater31 on May 1, 2024 5:24:36 GMT -5
Shouldn't have any impact on HC from a mens hockey perspective.
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Post by bfoley82 on May 1, 2024 5:44:46 GMT -5
Why did the announcement come from Naples, Fl.? The league office is in the Boston area, right? Naples is where the coaching convention usually is...might be this week but not sure. |
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Post by 78purple on May 6, 2024 23:04:22 GMT -5
Why did the announcement come from Naples, Fl.? The league office is in the Boston area, right? Naples is where the coaching convention usually is...might be this week but not sure. The goal needs to be absolutely be to have the men in HE........Kit, you agree, right ? |
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Post by longsuffering on May 6, 2024 23:25:32 GMT -5
Naples is where the coaching convention usually is...might be this week but not sure. The goal needs to be absolutely be to have the men in HE........Kit, you agree, right ? Where will HC men play home games in Hockey East? |
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Post by 78purple on May 6, 2024 23:29:35 GMT -5
The goal needs to be absolutely be to have the men in HE........Kit, you agree, right ? Where will HC men play home games in Hockey East? We have an arena downtown that is under-utilized.....Negotiate !!!! If its good enough for NCAA Regionals, its good enough for us....Let's go !!!! |
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Post by sader1970 on May 7, 2024 6:10:59 GMT -5
Thought that was a no-brainer . . . . . simply put a rink in Polar Park and play there. Pretty sure the WooSox aren't playing then and, think about it, they play hockey in Fenway Park, don't they? More town-gown support. More than makes up for suspending (cancelling?) the EBW football game. Don't overlook the obvious benefits.  |
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Post by Ignutz on May 7, 2024 10:12:22 GMT -5
Thought that was a no-brainer . . . . . simply put a rink in Polar Park and play there. Pretty sure the WooSox aren't playing then and, think about it, they play hockey in Fenway Park, don't they? More town-gown support. More than makes up for suspending (cancelling?) the EBW football game. Don't overlook the obvious benefits. Not gonna happen, but it would be great if it did - and we could then tell the obstinate guy who owns the Railers to stick his exclusive rights to hockey at the DCU where the sun doesn't shine. |
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Post by longsuffering on May 7, 2024 12:14:44 GMT -5
Thought that was a no-brainer . . . . . simply put a rink in Polar Park and play there. Pretty sure the WooSox aren't playing then and, think about it, they play hockey in Fenway Park, don't they? More town-gown support. More than makes up for suspending (cancelling?) the EBW football game. Don't overlook the obvious benefits. Not gonna happen, but it would be great if it did - and we could then tell the obstinate guy who owns the Railers to stick his exclusive rights to hockey a the DCU where the sun doesn't shine. I think his exclusivity clause was for three years or so to help the team get established. Of course an extension could have been negotiated at lease renewal for a puck or two. Unfortunately the Railers are being de-established as time wears on according to attendance trends. H.E. has it all over AHA in prestige and geographic footprint. But I really like the way Coach Riga is building a winning program in AHA and naturally don't enjoy Women's Hockey continually losing in H.E. Everything that glitters isn't gold. Ideally a college team earns one or more championships at it's current level and moves up from a position of strength but these days many other considerations are involved. It's great to be a contender in the AHA at present. |
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Post by bfoley82 on May 7, 2024 13:39:50 GMT -5
Not gonna happen, but it would be great if it did - and we could then tell the obstinate guy who owns the Railers to stick his exclusive rights to hockey a the DCU where the sun doesn't shine. I think his exclusivity clause was for three years or so to help the team get established. Of course an extension could have been negotiated at lease renewal for a puck or two. Unfortunately the Railers are being de-established as time wears on according to attendance trends. H.E. has it all over AHA in prestige and geographic footprint. But I really like the way Coach Riga is building a winning program in AHA and naturally don't enjoy Women's Hockey continually losing in H.E. Everything that glitters isn't gold. Ideally a college team earns one or more championships at it's current level and moves up from a position of strength but these days many other considerations are involved. It's great to be a contender in the AHA at present. Not sure how Holy Cross is going to be able to compete in Hockey East without a collective for Men's Hockey |
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Post by HC13 on May 7, 2024 14:08:28 GMT -5
No doubt you are right.
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Post by longsuffering on May 7, 2024 15:12:57 GMT -5
If the shoe (AHA cost wise) fits, wear it. Of course H.E. fits like a glove geographicly. Nothing is simple. Since H.E. has requirements about arena size maybe they and other power leagues will develop requirements for NIL establishment and funding size, too. Nothing is simple.
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Post by football44 on May 8, 2024 4:55:12 GMT -5
I think his exclusivity clause was for three years or so to help the team get established. Of course an extension could have been negotiated at lease renewal for a puck or two. Unfortunately the Railers are being de-established as time wears on according to attendance trends. H.E. has it all over AHA in prestige and geographic footprint. But I really like the way Coach Riga is building a winning program in AHA and naturally don't enjoy Women's Hockey continually losing in H.E. Everything that glitters isn't gold. Ideally a college team earns one or more championships at it's current level and moves up from a position of strength but these days many other considerations are involved. It's great to be a contender in the AHA at present. Not sure how Holy Cross is going to be able to compete in Hockey East without a collective for Men's Hockey Couldn’t agree more. Try and explain that to the leadership at HC. |
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Post by cruskater31 on May 8, 2024 8:53:19 GMT -5
Holy Cross competes presently with the middle of the pack in Hockey East each year and should beat the bottom teams each year. Can we be a top team in Hockey East right away? No. But if we look at results the past few years, even going back to those Berard teams, we are better situated to compete than our women's team. Women's team was a weird quasi D1/D3 program with a mixture of players.
This year we were 2-0 vs UConn (8th in HE), 1-0-1 vs. UML (11th), 0-0-1 vs. MC (10th). I think right away we would be better than last place in HEA. Year previously we had wins over UNH and BC (exh) but lost to UVM and MC.
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Post by aaa8316 on May 8, 2024 12:50:12 GMT -5
If the move to Hockey East was purely and only about hockey, Riga and this program looks pretty good to me with respect to competing there.
However, in 2024 there are an incredible amount of "uncontrollables" that have nothing to due with the purest form of the sport -- hockey in this case.
- Agents, NHL influence, transfer portal, NIL, arena and facilities, history.
All of these significantly hurt HC Men's Hockey.
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Post by longsuffering on May 8, 2024 20:15:57 GMT -5
But HC men's hockey hasn't looked this good since Coach Paul Pearl left, so things are looking up.
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Post by bfoley82 on May 8, 2024 21:22:25 GMT -5
Holy Cross competes presently with the middle of the pack in Hockey East each year and should beat the bottom teams each year. Can we be a top team in Hockey East right away? No. But if we look at results the past few years, even going back to those Berard teams, we are better situated to compete than our women's team. Women's team was a weird quasi D1/D3 program with a mixture of players. This year we were 2-0 vs UConn (8th in HE), 1-0-1 vs. UML (11th), 0-0-1 vs. MC (10th). I think right away we would be better than last place in HEA. Year previously we had wins over UNH and BC (exh) but lost to UVM and MC. Little bit different playing week in and week out in Hockey East compared to getting up for five games against Hockey East squads which the HE squads might play a backup goalie or not take their opponent as serious as they should. It is tough to get your team up for a road game in a glorified high school rink. |
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Post by longsuffering on May 8, 2024 22:34:27 GMT -5
Holy Cross competes presently with the middle of the pack in Hockey East each year and should beat the bottom teams each year. Can we be a top team in Hockey East right away? No. But if we look at results the past few years, even going back to those Berard teams, we are better situated to compete than our women's team. Women's team was a weird quasi D1/D3 program with a mixture of players. This year we were 2-0 vs UConn (8th in HE), 1-0-1 vs. UML (11th), 0-0-1 vs. MC (10th). I think right away we would be better than last place in HEA. Year previously we had wins over UNH and BC (exh) but lost to UVM and MC. Little bit different playing week in and week out in Hockey East compared to getting up for five games against Hockey East squads which the HE squads might play a backup goalie or not take their opponent as serious as they should. It is tough to get your team up for a road game in a glorified high school rink. That's ridiculous. Athletes at all levels salivate when they think they have a chance to get on the board against lesser competition. Of course any non-league game can't have the same stakes as a game that effects the league standings, league tournament seeding, etc. But don't you think the University of Buffalo football team is going to be pumped and jacked when they open against Lafayette after losing to PL teams two years in a row, as opposed to yawning and mailing it in against an opponent from a weaker league? |
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Post by bfoley82 on May 9, 2024 22:00:55 GMT -5
Little bit different playing week in and week out in Hockey East compared to getting up for five games against Hockey East squads which the HE squads might play a backup goalie or not take their opponent as serious as they should. It is tough to get your team up for a road game in a glorified high school rink. That's ridiculous. Athletes at all levels salivate when they think they have a chance to get on the board against lesser competition. Of course any non-league game can't have the same stakes as a game that effects the league standings, league tournament seeding, etc. But don't you think the University of Buffalo football team is going to be pumped and jacked when they open against Lafayette after losing to PL teams two years in a row, as opposed to yawning and mailing it in against an opponent from a weaker league? They are not going to take Lafayette seriously like they would Missouri the next week when they can get a win against a Power 4 school. |
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Post by longsuffering on May 10, 2024 2:37:27 GMT -5
The fear of losing to the PL for the third year in a row is equal to the joy of beating a power conference team.
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