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Post by hchoops on Feb 13, 2017 18:13:54 GMT -5
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Post by bison137 on Feb 13, 2017 18:26:03 GMT -5
I would not be surprised if this is the first step towards moving to many of the rules that were incorporated into the women's game last year, including four quarters and no one-and-one. Right now the men's college game is the only basketball in the world with two halves. There have been reports that the NCAA, and the women's coaches, have been very happy with the rules that have been incorporated into the women's game. I expect to see some of them in the men's game within 4 to 5 years.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 13, 2017 18:47:33 GMT -5
Having quarters and the 1 and 1 is not mutually exclusive.
Changing the foul rule would not necessarily create more possessions. On the 5th foul of each quarter all ft would be 2 shots. This could slow down each of the 4 quarters, not just 2 halves.
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 13, 2017 18:52:00 GMT -5
Having quarters and the 1 and 1 is not mutually exclusive. Changing the foul rule would not necessarily create more possessions. On the 5th foul of each quarter all ft would be 2 shots. This could slow down each of the 4 quarters, not just 2 halves.True, but it also would increase scoring. |
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Post by hchoops on Feb 13, 2017 18:58:14 GMT -5
The goal according to the article was to increase possessions.
I do not believe that many want to increase scoring by more stoppages for free throws.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 13, 2017 19:38:13 GMT -5
I would not be surprised if this is the first step towards moving to many of the rules that were incorporated into the women's game last year, including four quarters and no one-and-one. Right now the men's college game is the only basketball in the world with two halves. There have been reports that the NCAA, and the women's coaches, have been very happy with the rules that have been incorporated into the women's game. I expect to see some of them in the men's game within 4 to 5 years. This sounds like the Jay Bilas argument? While a great in-game analyst, he is absolutely insufferable when he gets on his rule change and/or pay for play soapbox. Just because college basketball may be the "only basketball in the world" with certain rules does not make those rules wrong. College basketball also happens to be the most entertaining brand of basketball in the world, and it would be better off focusing solely on what's best for college basketball, rather than making rule changes simply to try and match the NBA, FIBA, or anyone else. |
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Post by bison137 on Feb 13, 2017 20:04:03 GMT -5
Having quarters and the 1 and 1 is not mutually exclusive. Changing the foul rule would not necessarily create more possessions. On the 5th foul of each quarter all ft would be 2 shots. This could slow down each of the 4 quarters, not just 2 halves. Games have been faster with the new women's rules. Also fewer media timeouts. |
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Post by hchoops on Feb 13, 2017 20:08:02 GMT -5
Having quarters and the 1 and 1 is not mutually exclusive. Changing the foul rule would not necessarily create more possessions. On the 5th foul of each quarter all ft would be 2 shots. This could slow down each of the 4 quarters, not just 2 halves. Games have been faster with the new women's rules. Also fewer media timeouts. Do the women foul as much as the men ? |
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 13, 2017 20:35:36 GMT -5
Games have been faster with the new women's rules. Also fewer media timeouts. Do the women foul as much as the men ? The HC women commit about 5 more fouls per game than the HC men, fwiw. |
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Post by hchoops on Feb 13, 2017 21:04:11 GMT -5
Our men commit among the fewest in the country., # 13
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Post by timholycross on Feb 14, 2017 9:37:26 GMT -5
Having quarters and the 1 and 1 is not mutually exclusive. Changing the foul rule would not necessarily create more possessions. On the 5th foul of each quarter all ft would be 2 shots. This could slow down each of the 4 quarters, not just 2 halves. Games have been faster with the new women's rules. Also fewer media timeouts. What a the media time out rules in women's hoops? 5, 10 (end of qtr) 15 rather than 4, 8, 12 and 16? I would prefer the latter rather than the former even if the time outs were stretched out longer than they are now to make up for the lost commercial time. 4 breaks slow the game down too much. The one thing that sticks out to me is the overtime...you get to commit 3 fouls before it becomes 2 shots? That's a big difference...if I had to guess, I'd say under the current rules, a team entering an OT is in the bonus 90% of the time and in the double bonus maybe 2/3 of that. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 16, 2017 2:34:24 GMT -5
Games have been faster with the new women's rules. Also fewer media timeouts. What a the media time out rules in women's hoops? 5, 10 (end of qtr) 15 rather than 4, 8, 12 and 16? I would prefer the latter rather than the former even if the time outs were stretched out longer than they are now to make up for the lost commercial time. 4 breaks slow the game down too much. The one thing that sticks out to me is the overtime...you get to commit 3 fouls before it becomes 2 shots? That's a big difference...if I had to guess, I'd say under the current rules, a team entering an OT is in the bonus 90% of the time and in the double bonus maybe 2/3 of that. Yes on the media timeouts...the women's games I have shot this year seem to go by faster to me (might just be looking up at the clock it is only counting down from 10). Especially the first three quarters seem fast |
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