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Post by rgs318 on Feb 24, 2017 9:06:28 GMT -5
Part of Coach Carmody's charm.. . In the past (and probably 99 percent of other schools) this is an E-mail blast, not a hand written note that was scanned in I recently received a post card with hand written notes from Coaches Carmody and Gibbons for a donation to basketball team I did as well...a very nice touch.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 24, 2017 9:19:08 GMT -5
That sure looks like a computer generated letter (to the students) to me.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 24, 2017 9:30:59 GMT -5
It probably was computer generated. It is still nice touch with that small "extra' effort went into it...except for the few, perhaps, who do not like anything that HCBC or ADNP do.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Feb 24, 2017 9:42:24 GMT -5
BU is our biggest PL rival? I thought it was the other BU, Bucknell?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 24, 2017 9:48:44 GMT -5
BU is our biggest PL rival? I thought it was the other BU, Bucknell? FAKE NEWS! Haven't you heard about the Turnpike Trophy?!
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Feb 24, 2017 9:55:49 GMT -5
That sure looks like a computer generated letter (to the students) to me. What does it matter?
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Post by ncaam on Feb 24, 2017 10:03:45 GMT -5
What matters is someone thought it was more personal, evidencing charm. Just like any other mass communication. Hope it works. Free pizza and tee shirt will bring some in. Few attended the LU game.
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Post by CHC8485 on Feb 24, 2017 10:26:37 GMT -5
BU is our biggest PL rival? I thought it was the other BU, Bucknell? FAKE NEWS! Haven't you heard about the Turnpike Trophy?! Certainly overstated right now, but over 30 years in the Patriot League NOTHING was done to foster a rivalry with anyone. Sure Bucknell at the Hart Center was great in basketball for about 5 years, but I wasn't feeing a lot of passion when Bucknell was in town in January. Or when Bucknell came to Fitton last October. Someone FINALLY recognized the need for a rival that spans more than 1 sport; that the effort to build a rivalry with someone in the league had to start somewhere; and took some action rather than simply saying, we need a rival I hope one comes along. It's year 2 and yes, it feels forced now, but give it a few years and see what happens. Either that of tell us your plan to create a rival across all (or at least most) sports in which we participate. And if your plan involves changing leagues, give us some of the details on how that happens.
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Post by Tom on Feb 24, 2017 10:35:57 GMT -5
What matters is someone thought it was more personal, evidencing charm. Just like any other mass communication. Hope it works. Free pizza and tee shirt will bring some in. Few attended the LU game. It's going to be a tough challenge convincing the person at the promotions table that I'm a student and entitled to a tee shirt and slice of pizza. However, if only 299 students show up, I think I can pull this off. I'm never really sure which L school we're talking about, but I thought the Loyola game this week had more fans than normal, but fewer students than normal. Lehigh a week ago (which posters might have seen on TV) had about the average number of students, but fewer locals giving the place an empty look. Snow that day scared some off campus people away. As noted elsewhere, this being Homecoming, will likely be the best attendance of the season
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 24, 2017 10:36:06 GMT -5
FAKE NEWS! Haven't you heard about the Turnpike Trophy?! Certainly overstated right now, but over 30 years in the Patriot League NOTHING was done to foster a rivalry with anyone. Sure Bucknell at the Hart Center was great in basketball for about 5 years, but I wasn't feeing a lot of passion when Bucknell was in town in January. Or when Bucknell came to Fitton last October. Someone FINALLY recognized the need for a rival that spans more than 1 sport; that the effort to build a rivalry with someone in the league had to start somewhere; and took some action rather than simply saying, we need a rival I hope one comes along. It's year 2 and yes, it feels forced now, but give it a few years and see what happens. Either that of tell us your plan to create a rival across all (or at least most) sports in which we participate. And if your plan involves changing leagues, give us some of the details on how that happens. Come on, a rivalry "across all sports?" BU doesn't play Football or Baseball, and the only sport that their school cares about (Ice Hockey) doesn't even play in our league. That means, in our four major Men's sports, we play them every year in one. Bucknell is our rival in basketball, and Fordham should be our rival in football (awful league schedule really hurts our chances of developing that rivalry by moving them all over the schedule every year). Trying to drum up interest in rivalries for minor sports with little-to-no fan interest is a very steep hill to climb.
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Post by ncaam on Feb 24, 2017 11:01:45 GMT -5
Someone probably told Nate we needed a rival. Not knowing the playing field he reached out to nearby BU. Big mistake that's not easily corrected.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 24, 2017 11:06:09 GMT -5
Someone probably told Nate we needed a rival. Not knowing the playing field he reached out to nearby BU. Big mistake that's not easily corrected. silly
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Post by ericobeyyourthirst on Feb 24, 2017 12:01:02 GMT -5
Certainly overstated right now, but over 30 years in the Patriot League NOTHING was done to foster a rivalry with anyone. Sure Bucknell at the Hart Center was great in basketball for about 5 years, but I wasn't feeing a lot of passion when Bucknell was in town in January. Or when Bucknell came to Fitton last October. Someone FINALLY recognized the need for a rival that spans more than 1 sport; that the effort to build a rivalry with someone in the league had to start somewhere; and took some action rather than simply saying, we need a rival I hope one comes along. It's year 2 and yes, it feels forced now, but give it a few years and see what happens. Either that of tell us your plan to create a rival across all (or at least most) sports in which we participate. And if your plan involves changing leagues, give us some of the details on how that happens. Trying to drum up interest in rivalries for minor sports with little-to-no fan interest is a very steep hill to climb. As opposed to doing nothing and giving no consideration to these minor sports? It's not like they are spending vast amounts of resources to make this happen.
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Post by CHC8485 on Feb 24, 2017 12:19:41 GMT -5
Certainly overstated right now, but over 30 years in the Patriot League NOTHING was done to foster a rivalry with anyone. Sure Bucknell at the Hart Center was great in basketball for about 5 years, but I wasn't feeing a lot of passion when Bucknell was in town in January. Or when Bucknell came to Fitton last October. Someone FINALLY recognized the need for a rival that spans more than 1 sport; that the effort to build a rivalry with someone in the league had to start somewhere; and took some action rather than simply saying, we need a rival I hope one comes along. It's year 2 and yes, it feels forced now, but give it a few years and see what happens. Either that of tell us your plan to create a rival across all (or at least most) sports in which we participate. And if your plan involves changing leagues, give us some of the details on how that happens. Come on, a rivalry "across all sports?" BU doesn't play Football or Baseball, and the only sport that their school cares about (Ice Hockey) doesn't even play in our league. That means, in our four major Men's sports, we play them every year in one. Bucknell is our rival in basketball, and Fordham should be our rival in football (awful league schedule really hurts our chances of developing that rivalry by moving them all over the schedule every year). Trying to drum up interest in rivalries for minor sports with little-to-no fan interest is a very steep hill to climb. Yes it is a steep hill. And up till now we've been content to just sit at the bottom of the hill wishing something would drag us to the top. There are 100 - 150 students per class who play in those other 20 minor sports you dismiss so easily. And the vast majority of them become alumni. To illustrate how this might work, look at Bucknell men's basketball last year. Think they don't hold a little something against us for beating them in the PLT last year? So that's 14 players who don't like HC so much. And 14 players who told all their friends they don't like HC very much. But that only happens once every few years at best when you talk about 1 sport. Transfer that opportunity to 20 teams. Over the course of 4 years, we'll win a few against Boston U that we are not supposed to win and they'll win a few against us they are not supposed to win. Put a new rivalry trophy (or league championship) on the line and the stakes go up - even if only a little. A little animosity/resentment spreads from the 3 or 4 of 20 teams the first year and then another 2 the yeard after. It goes from players to roomates and friends, then to classmates and soon enough you have a rivalry so that the soccer, lacrosse and volleyball teams all want to go see their friends on the baskeball team extract a touch of revenge against a school that they don't like very much for beating them on a "lucky" shot, a bad call by a ref, or took a cheap shot in the game last year. And I agree, we had the opportunity to start this with Bucknell 10 years ago as a result of basketball, but we just said, we're happy at the bottom of this hill, we'll let the competiton determine a basketball rivalry, a football rivalry, a hockey rivalry and a baseball rivalry. How'd that work out? With a little effort in scheduling and promotion over 12 years since the Bucknell PLT win at the Hart Center, we could have had 1200 student athletes and their friends not liking Bucknell at all so that a few of them would have been in the stands in January when Bucknell came to the Hart. Instead Holy Cross did nothing. The Turnpike Trophy may not work, but at least we're trying something.
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Post by hc2489 on Feb 24, 2017 12:26:13 GMT -5
Someone probably told Nate we needed a rival. Not knowing the playing field he reached out to nearby BU. Big mistake that's not easily corrected. how is it a big mistake?
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Post by hcnation on Feb 24, 2017 12:58:15 GMT -5
You have to have a rivalry with a team that cares about both football and basketball in the league and I cannot find one.
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 24, 2017 13:03:59 GMT -5
I'm ok with the turnpike trophy idea but it's never going to be in our trophy case ! bu does not have football and they give out athletic grants in all minor/olympic sports at a much higher level than we do. just look at the comparative teams on both school websites, in most cases they are well ahead of us. for example, I once spoke with our women's golf coach who has 'zero dollars' to offer and he pointed out that BU gives 4 full schollies across their women's team (and the scores show it!) . I think we do it the right way, but it's not even close to a 'even playing field'. Much preferred to have such a competition against a school that distributes aid in the same amounts as we do.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 24, 2017 14:23:56 GMT -5
Come on, a rivalry "across all sports?" BU doesn't play Football or Baseball, and the only sport that their school cares about (Ice Hockey) doesn't even play in our league. That means, in our four major Men's sports, we play them every year in one. Bucknell is our rival in basketball, and Fordham should be our rival in football (awful league schedule really hurts our chances of developing that rivalry by moving them all over the schedule every year). Trying to drum up interest in rivalries for minor sports with little-to-no fan interest is a very steep hill to climb. Yes it is a steep hill. And up till now we've been content to just sit at the bottom of the hill wishing something would drag us to the top. There are 100 - 150 students per class who play in those other 20 minor sports you dismiss so easily. And the vast majority of them become alumni. To illustrate how this might work, look at Bucknell men's basketball last year. Think they don't hold a little something against us for beating them in the PLT last year? So that's 14 players who don't like HC so much. And 14 players who told all their friends they don't like HC very much. But that only happens once every few years at best when you talk about 1 sport. Transfer that opportunity to 20 teams. Over the course of 4 years, we'll win a few against Boston U that we are not supposed to win and they'll win a few against us they are not supposed to win. Put a new rivalry trophy (or league championship) on the line and the stakes go up - even if only a little. A little animosity/resentment spreads from the 3 or 4 of 20 teams the first year and then another 2 the yeard after. It goes from players to roomates and friends, then to classmates and soon enough you have a rivalry so that the soccer, lacrosse and volleyball teams all want to go see their friends on the baskeball team extract a touch of revenge against a school that they don't like very much for beating them on a "lucky" shot, a bad call by a ref, or took a cheap shot in the game last year.And I agree, we had the opportunity to start this with Bucknell 10 years ago as a result of basketball, but we just said, we're happy at the bottom of this hill, we'll let the competiton determine a basketball rivalry, a football rivalry, a hockey rivalry and a baseball rivalry. How'd that work out? With a little effort in scheduling and promotion over 12 years since the Bucknell PLT win at the Hart Center, we could have had 1200 student athletes and their friends not liking Bucknell at all so that a few of them would have been in the stands in January when Bucknell came to the Hart. Instead Holy Cross did nothing.The Turnpike Trophy may not work, but at least we're trying something. Fantasy land.Bucknell is our rival in basketball. That's the team that resonates with alumni, and the team who should be the "marquee" game on our PL schedule every year. This year's game was played on a Sunday at 1;00 PM on an NFL playoff weekend with the students on break -- a perfect recipe for a very light crowd, regardless of if we lost a close Cross Country match against them 4 years ago and that team wanted to show up to root root root against them. Yes, the pL schedule is dictated by the league office, but I would LOVE to see us lead the change in adopting a common sense approach to the scheduling for football and basketball, rather than the computer generated crap they're spitting out now. The league has everything to gain and nothing to lose by growing rivalries where they actually exist. Bucknell in basketball, Fordham in football. Those are our two opportunities for actual rivalries. Turnpike Trophy = Civil ConFLiCT Trophy
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Post by sarasota on Feb 24, 2017 17:29:56 GMT -5
We need a "traditional rival" big game IN FOOTBALL.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 24, 2017 18:17:11 GMT -5
For those posters participating in any homecoming activities prior to the game, spread the word to get to the Hart early, so as not to miss the Senior Day ceremony. I believe it takes place shortly before tipoff. Oh, and also pass the word that making some noise is encouraged!
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 24, 2017 18:38:21 GMT -5
For those posters participating in any homecoming activities prior to the game, spread the word to get to the Hart early, so as not to miss the Senior Day ceremony. I believe it takes place shortly before tipoff. Oh, and also pass the word that making some noise is encouraged! I heard 1:45 for the Senior day ceremony
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Post by hc87 on Feb 24, 2017 19:24:48 GMT -5
Boston College is still our rival....yes, I'm living in a bubble, so be it
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 24, 2017 20:06:27 GMT -5
I've got the "good camera" packed in the car already and hope to get some good shots and videos of the pre-game festivities. Unfortunately, they always face the opposite side of the court, so I may need to hustle over there or get nothing but "rear-view" perspectives.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 25, 2017 12:05:52 GMT -5
Heading out now cause I'm super antsy......let's bring the heat today!
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Post by Sader Fan on Feb 25, 2017 12:21:24 GMT -5
Looks like it will be a sell out (or nearly one). I could not find 3 seats together on line so had to call ticket office. Told lower bowl almost sold out. Only choice chair backs and general admission balcony. Went for Chair backs behind team. So if you plan to go. Get tix on line or call or you may miss out!
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