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Post by hc87 on Mar 4, 2017 22:48:21 GMT -5
Have at it what you will.....
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 4, 2017 23:06:02 GMT -5
boycott
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Post by hc87 on Mar 4, 2017 23:10:29 GMT -5
Just trying to start a discussion....yes, the schedules, coaching hires etc have seemed to improve but we are still mired in anonymity imo....football and basketball are still terrible, Olympic sports are mostly horrific....are we really improving undah his tutelage?
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Post by ncaam on Mar 5, 2017 7:35:58 GMT -5
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Post by ncaam on Mar 5, 2017 7:40:18 GMT -5
Two votes against? Is caro 87 other moniker?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 5, 2017 7:52:29 GMT -5
Two votes against? Is caro 87 other moniker? That is the funniest post in a very long time |
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Post by billy72 on Mar 5, 2017 9:41:09 GMT -5
Don't really see where NP has helped us at all. Seems to be same old same old , or "wait til next .
As an alum , very disappointing with the sports pgm at HC and really cannot see much of a future !
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Post by lou on Mar 5, 2017 10:01:02 GMT -5
This topic could only be started by someone who hasn't seen a game in years
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Post by ncaam on Mar 5, 2017 10:45:49 GMT -5
Did my eyes deceive me or were the 3.0 patches gone vs Navy? Now that would be an outstanding decision by Nate. Whoops, he was the one who put them there in the first place. Elsewhere I posted other mistakes by Nate including not firing the football coach after 2015 or 2016 seasons. The Togo bobble head debacle. The horrendous scheduling of 2 and 1's with URI and UMass. Horrible scheduling of in-season PL games, principally the BU games. Nate Pine makes DR look like a genius.
Sometimes even '87 gets it right. This is one of those times.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 5, 2017 11:07:13 GMT -5
Just for clarification, does each PL team set up its own schedule?
How would such a thing be possible?
IMO, it would not and that is why schedules are set by the league with input from the ADs collectively. There is a small amount of flexibility (some unique school event in conflict, for example). Individual ADs seem to come into play only when someone needs a scapegoat. Or, is my understanding incorrect.
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Post by cmo on Mar 5, 2017 11:07:16 GMT -5
Was the Togo bobblehead a debacle ?
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 5, 2017 11:13:38 GMT -5
I like my Togo bobblehead very much.
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Post by crossbball13 on Mar 5, 2017 11:16:34 GMT -5
Did my eyes deceive me or were the 3.0 patches gone vs Navy? Now that would be an outstanding decision by Nate. Whoops, he was the one who put them there in the first place. Elsewhere I posted other mistakes by Nate including not firing the football coach after 2015 or 2016 seasons. The Togo bobble head debacle. The horrendous scheduling of 2 and 1's with URI and UMass. Horrible scheduling of in-season PL games, principally the BU games. Nate Pine makes DR look like a genius. Sometimes even '87 gets it right. This is one of those times. You continue to post about adnp messing up the pl reg season schedule. Why? This is where agenda's are easily spotted...or flat our stupidity/ignorance. You pick because it's certainly 1 of the 2. Pine has not been a success but posts like this get people more in pines side than yours. Caro and you (70) exaggerate and nitpick to an extent that no one could possibly agree with you. Why does this confuse you? Maybe take a different approach? |
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Post by bigfan on Mar 5, 2017 11:32:42 GMT -5
Nate could do a better job if the administration would give him some additional power to help our recruiting better athletes. Just look how other schools have improved their athletic programs to increase attendance at sporting events. How far back do you have to go to see students at every home game, think back
to the days at the Worcester auditorium when students filled the stage for every game. Also, we need to get out of the PL to get better ball players especially in basketball. Nate has also scheduled Navy in football and has long term contracts with Harvard & Yale. I did vote that Nate is doing the best he can with the
restrictions that he has to work with.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Mar 5, 2017 11:59:25 GMT -5
Did my eyes deceive me or were the 3.0 patches gone vs Navy? Now that would be an outstanding decision by Nate. Whoops, he was the one who put them there in the first place. Elsewhere I posted other mistakes by Nate including not firing the football coach after 2015 or 2016 seasons. The Togo bobble head debacle. The horrendous scheduling of 2 and 1's with URI and UMass. Horrible scheduling of in-season PL games, principally the BU games. Nate Pine makes DR look like a genius. Sometimes even '87 gets it right. This is one of those times. You continue to post about adnp messing up the pl reg season schedule. Why? This is where agenda's are easily spotted...or flat our stupidity/ignorance. You pick because it's certainly 1 of the 2. Pine has not been a success but posts like this get people more in pines side than yours. Caro and you (70) exaggerate and nitpick to an extent that no one could possibly agree with you. Why does this confuse you? Maybe take a different approach? 70 has this adorable tactic of throwing out questions that have already been answered a hundred times. He has now done it across two boards and with two different usernames. |
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 5, 2017 13:13:55 GMT -5
improvement in the wins and losses category has been a disappointment but 3 years into making 'chicken salad out of chicken ...t' is not enough time imo. the optics of the program have improved dramatically, and for me that is important. we now look like a d.1 program. for example:
- the hart center renovation (i saw if for the first time last weekend) is excellent
- the website has been enhanced
- the new adidas contract (for ?$ annually) was probably well negotiated, and our team apparel looks good
- the athletic assoc staff has been increased, but i will admit, at this time, i think their impact is yet to be seen (from afar)
- i know the new luth complex was born before his arrival, but i consider his execution and oversight has been professional, and i anticipate its completion on time.
- with most of the luth directed toward football, he has arranged an upgraded schedule that is attractive to alums and the worcester community (the students are a lost cause)
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Post by hcgrad94 on Mar 5, 2017 13:31:08 GMT -5
improvement in the wins and losses category has been a disappointment but 3 years into making 'chicken salad out of chicken ...t' is not enough time imo. the optics of the program have improved dramatically, and for me that is important. we now look like a d.1 program. for example: - the hart center renovation (i saw if for the first time last weekend) is excellent - the website has been enhanced - the new adidas contract (for ?$ annually) was probably well negotiated, and our team apparel looks good - the athletic assoc staff has been increased, but i will admit, at this time, i think their impact is yet to be seen (from afar) - i know the new luth complex was born before his arrival, but i consider his execution and oversight has been professional, and i anticipate its completion on time. - with most of the luth directed toward football, he has arranged an upgraded schedule that is attractive to alums and the worcester community (the students are a lost cause) I would concur w most of what you said but I think Luth will benefit every field sport including but well beyond football. The new indoor field weight room, sports med, offices and locker rooms will be truly Division I. |
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Post by sarasota on Mar 5, 2017 16:11:47 GMT -5
He's done lots of good--quickly, compared to the glacier-like past. First strike was not releasing Gilmour. Second strike will be not releasing Gibbons. These two blunders are the measure of how important WINNING is in HC's priorities. So....too early to tell right now. Anyone who doesn't think the facilities improvements will make a significant improvement in recruiting is nuts.
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Post by Tom on Mar 5, 2017 18:58:11 GMT -5
I will take the cowardly abstain.
From what I've seen, Pine has put some building blocks in place. He is building the foundation of a decent program. No one really knows how good a foundation is until it has to support the weight of the building. I can't vote yea or nay about the foundation (Pine's job "so far" ) until I see the building. We can debate about the whether the timetable is fast enough, but the job is not far enough along to label it a success or failure at this point
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 5, 2017 19:31:01 GMT -5
Nicely said, Tom
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Post by Tom on Mar 5, 2017 21:55:11 GMT -5
Did my eyes deceive me or were the 3.0 patches gone vs Navy? Now that would be an outstanding decision by Nate. Whoops, he was the one who put them there in the first place. Elsewhere I posted other mistakes by Nate including not firing the football coach after 2015 or 2016 seasons. The Togo bobble head debacle. The horrendous scheduling of 2 and 1's with URI and UMass. Horrible scheduling of in-season PL games, principally the BU games. Nate Pine makes DR look like a genius. Sometimes even '87 gets it right. This is one of those times. Just for clarification, if we accept the premise that the 2 and 1's are horrible scheduling, is the preferred option a guarantee game at UMass/URI or simply not to play them at all?Obviously it would be great to play home and home and have the Worcester game in Hart, but sadly I don't think that's going to happen in today's landscape |
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Post by ncaam on Mar 6, 2017 6:22:01 GMT -5
True, so if you so want to play them, play a money game at their place.
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Post by Tom on Mar 6, 2017 8:59:55 GMT -5
True, so if you so want to play them, play a money game at their place. Thank you for clarification. As with most issues there are pluses and minuses. One advantage in getting a UMass or URI to come to Worcester is that you're getting a name that the average non-HC fan is at least familiar with. We've heard the observation that the PL stinks and no one in greater Worcester cares about or even heard of the teams coming to Worcester. I was at the UMass game this year with people who haven't been to Hart in years, but thought UMass/HC might be an interesting match-up and pre-game for the Patriots. These games can get the more casual fan in the door. If you combine that with a decent product on the floor, once people have been exposed to the decent product, they might come back |
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Post by ncaam on Mar 6, 2017 10:20:23 GMT -5
6 losses is 6 losses....why not get paid
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 6, 2017 10:35:28 GMT -5
If HC does get paid, I believe 6 losses are still 6 losses.  |
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