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Post by purplehaze on Mar 7, 2017 11:44:54 GMT -5
one could argue this, pointing to what the ivy has done with their new league championship at the palestra which promises to sell out for saturday's dh. could anyone imagine the patriot league playing their final four at a single venue and attracting 8-9000 fans ? i know we don't have a facility that large among our schools but i don't detect the interest even if we did.
i personally like their format. it keeps the regular season relevant, as only the top 4 schools qualify for the tourney.
anyone with me to suggest the same for the pl, and play one weekend at christl arena (west point)?, which has the largest capacity (i think)
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Post by hchoops on Mar 7, 2017 11:54:26 GMT -5
Does the Ivy have better attendance than the PL ?
Their new format is attractive, much due to the site, the Palestra. It will draw loyalists, esp UPenn fans , at least to the semis, and casual Philly hoops fans, of which there are many.
The PL had no success at the horse palace in the early 2000s. i believe that Christl, or any other arena, would not draw either. Bucknell and Navy have the best facilities, but only Bucknell has a strong following. As with siena in albany, the bison would draw at home, if students were not on spring break, but i believe that few fans from other PL schools would attend.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 7, 2017 12:23:37 GMT -5
Does the Ivy have better attendance than the PL ? Their new format is attractive, much due to the site, the Palestra. It will draw loyalists, esp UPenn fans , at least to the semis, and casual Philly hoops fans, of which there are many. The PL had no success at the horse palace in the early 2000s. i believe that Christl, or any other arena, would not draw either. Bucknell and Navy have the best facilities, but only Bucknell has a strong following. As with siena in albany, the bison would draw at home, if students were not on spring break, but i believe that few fans from other PL schools would attend. If you factor in their larger enrollments, the Ivy's generally don't draw well at all - especially with three strong programs and a rising Penn team playing in the Pakestra. This year's attendance: penn 3596 princeton 2390 harvard 1806 columbia 1625 yale 1356 cornell 1272 brown 825 dartmouth 791 Note that Penn's attendance is inflated by having hosted Big Five sellouts with Villanova and St. Joes |
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Post by ncaam on Mar 7, 2017 12:50:20 GMT -5
Does the Ivy have better attendance than the PL ? Their new format is attractive, much due to the site, the Palestra. It will draw loyalists, esp UPenn fans , at least to the semis, and casual Philly hoops fans, of which there are many. The PL had no success at the horse palace in the early 2000s. i believe that Christl, or any other arena, would not draw either. Bucknell and Navy have the best facilities, but only Bucknell has a strong following. As with siena in albany, the bison would draw at home, if students were not on spring break, but i believe that few fans from other PL schools would attend. How about the Hershey arena where Wilt scored 100. |
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Post by CHC8485 on Mar 7, 2017 13:08:05 GMT -5
Becasue no one wants to go to Hershey, PA.
Suggested years ago after the PL moved out of the Horse Barn, suggested that the PL use the Palestra for their tourney. Ivy & Penn schedule was an obvious hurdle, but holding a tourney in a big city like Philly gives a big time feel to it and, even though most would not do a whole lot more than go to the games, the idea that there are things to do in the course of a day while waiting for a game to tip attracts fans.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 7, 2017 13:11:02 GMT -5
Is Mohegan Sun (or Atlantic City) definitely out of the question?
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Post by hchoops on Mar 7, 2017 13:12:18 GMT -5
Hopefully
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 7, 2017 13:28:24 GMT -5
I'm not suggesting we go that route, it's just that I find it to be a good idea for the ivy, and unfortunately our league has some constraints. A neutral site is a terrible idea. I suppose the only thing close to the ivy format would be to play a weekend 4 team tourney at the highest seeded team's court. I would like 6 teams to qualify (last 4 don't deserve to go to any postseason !). on a midweek day, 6 at 3 and 5 at 4, with 1st and 2nd place teams getting a bye into the final weekend semis.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 7, 2017 13:33:42 GMT -5
If almost all teams do not draw in the playoffs(as during the season), why would their fans go to a destination ?
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Post by timholycross on Mar 7, 2017 15:25:35 GMT -5
If almost all teams do not draw in the playoffs(as during the season), why would their fans go to a destination ? And often on Spring Break, to boot. Maybe if the tournament was at FAU or FGCU we'd have somethin' |
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Post by hchoops on Mar 7, 2017 15:30:14 GMT -5
If almost all teams do not draw in the playoffs(as during the season), why would their fans go to a destination ? And often on Spring Break, to boot. Maybe if the tournament was at FAU or FGCU we'd have somethin' UCSB ? |
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Post by Tom on Mar 7, 2017 16:07:52 GMT -5
If you're not in a multiple bid league, I actually like the PL format. It gives greater meaning to the regular season
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 7, 2017 18:48:59 GMT -5
If you're not in a multiple bid league, I actually like the PL format. It gives greater meaning to the regular season It's working for Vermont so far.....and they are packing that little gym of theirs. |
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Post by hcgrad94 on Mar 7, 2017 18:53:33 GMT -5
If you're not in a multiple bid league, I actually like the PL format. It gives greater meaning to the regular season It's working for Vermont so far.....and they are packing that little gym of theirs. Yes a larger state U and only game within 125 miles. |
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Post by hchoops on Mar 7, 2017 18:56:39 GMT -5
If you're not in a multiple bid league, I actually like the PL format. It gives greater meaning to the regular season It's working for Vermont so far.....and they are packing that little gym of theirs. Saw a game there in the Brennan era it is a real high school size gym. a great atmosphere. |
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 7, 2017 18:58:10 GMT -5
Isn't too hard to figure out why any IVY sport is more popular than any PL sport:
Casual fans, and even far less than casual fans could anywhere in the country could rattle off at least 4 Ivies if quizzed, yet you'd be hard pressed to find a guy on the street in Worcester who could name a single PL school, know that HC plays in the PL, or even has heard of the PL.
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Post by hc87 on Mar 7, 2017 20:36:07 GMT -5
Isn't too hard to figure out why any IVY sport is more popular than any PL sport: Casual fans, and even far less than casual fans could anywhere in the country could rattle off at least 4 Ivies if quizzed, yet you'd be hard pressed to find a guy on the street in Worcester who could name a single PL school, know that HC plays in the PL, or even has heard of the PL. Oh....and I'm the "bad guy"......  ....just bustin' ACTP |
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