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Post by hc87 on Mar 18, 2017 19:58:15 GMT -5
St Mary's etc.........how do we get there?
Is it possible in the PL?
Seriously, looking for answers here.
How do we get there? Put pressure on the bigger leagues to let us join? Restructure our athletic department?
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Post by hcgrad94 on Mar 18, 2017 20:14:50 GMT -5
I'll bite. Drop FB, Hockey and somehow figure how to incorporate 15 kids who can't really do the academic work in to your school.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 18, 2017 20:20:03 GMT -5
St Mary's etc.........how do we get there? Is it possible in the PL? Seriously, looking for answers here. How do we get there? Put pressure on the bigger leagues to let us join? Restructure our athletic department? Please list the many ways their basketball programs' increased prominence has helped these schools |
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Post by hc87 on Mar 18, 2017 20:22:00 GMT -5
St Mary's etc.........how do we get there? Is it possible in the PL? Seriously, looking for answers here. How do we get there? Put pressure on the bigger leagues to let us join? Restructure our athletic department? Please list the many ways their basketball programs' increased prominence has helped these schools Villanova, Boston College, Seton Hall, St John's,Providence College, UConn, Syracuse.......see a pattern? |
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Post by hc87 on Mar 18, 2017 20:31:14 GMT -5
I'll bite. Drop FB, Hockey and somehow figure how to incorporate 15 kids who can't really do the academic work in to your school. Hockey should be dropped tomorrow.....sorry, but it's a very niche sport that eats up way too many resources imo. Football is a tough one....no other college sport really galvanizes an alumni-base, student body and local community like football. I think HC would be much the poorer without a football program but that's one man's opinion. |
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Post by hc87 on Mar 18, 2017 21:00:14 GMT -5
The use of sunscreen has increased in the last 30 years The rate of skin cancer has almost doubled in the last 30 years. Clearly, then, sunscreen causes skin cancer. Correlation is not causation. Non-Catholic private colleges', especially the Ivy's, greatly diminished prejudice against Catholic students Catholic parents being far less concerned about their kids getting a Catholic college education Holy Cross' obviously Catholic (or at least Christian) affiliation IMO, all play a far greater role in the phenomena you are describing than who we play in basketball or football. And as to HC vs. BC ... I'll back up hcgrad94's assertion with an anecdote. A friend and classmate's oldest daughter went to HC. His second daughter to BC. A couple of years ago, without asking or prompt from me, he volunteered that he was far more satisfied with the education his daughter received at HC. Had to do with the quality of the classes, individualized attention, availability of classes to graduate in 4 years, research opportunities and faculty support ... his 3rd & 4th daughters are at HC now. And for full disclosure his son is at Haverford. Sorry, but does nothing to explain why we suck at just about every sport people care about. |
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Post by CHC8485 on Mar 18, 2017 21:06:30 GMT -5
Sorry. Mixing up threads where you're posting that HC sucks at everything compared to 30 years ago.
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Post by hc87 on Mar 18, 2017 21:08:03 GMT -5
Sorry. Mixing up threads where you're posting that HC sucks at everything compared to 30 years ago. Understood....it's basically every thread....and it's true. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 18, 2017 22:36:03 GMT -5
Please list the many ways their basketball programs' increased prominence has helped these schools Villanova, Boston College, Seton Hall, St John's,Providence College, UConn, Syracuse.......see a pattern? I guess my question was unclear. I'll try again. How has the increased prominence of the basketball programs at Xavier and Gonzaga helped those schools? Have their applications for admission increased? Are more talented students applying for admission? Are admission standards more stringent? has their "yield" increased from accepted students? Have alumni donated at a higher rate-- both in terms of percentage of alums donating and $$ amount per donor? Have academics improved? Do guidance counselors, parents, prospective students now perceive these schools as more desirable to attend? Have the ratings touts moved the schools up on the prestige ladder? Have their endowments grown faster than the composite of US colleges? etc etc |
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Post by bfoley82 on Mar 18, 2017 23:57:00 GMT -5
St Mary's etc.........how do we get there? Is it possible in the PL? Seriously, looking for answers here. How do we get there? Put pressure on the bigger leagues to let us join? Restructure our athletic department? Xavier is a mid-major now? The Big East won the NATIONAL Championship last year.... |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 19, 2017 13:59:34 GMT -5
I'll bite. Drop FB, Hockey and somehow figure how to incorporate 15 kids who can't really do the academic work in to your school. Why are people captivated by the nonexistent correlation between dropping football and/or hockey and having a top-notch basketball team?
Last time I checked, Villanova is the reigning national champ and were able to do so while also supporting a top-notch FCS football program.
Providence has had a nice resurgence the past three years. They must have dropped hockey in order to accomplish this, right?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 19, 2017 14:09:35 GMT -5
I'll bite. Drop FB, Hockey and somehow figure how to incorporate 15 kids who can't really do the academic work in to your school. Hockey should be dropped tomorrow.....sorry, but it's a very niche sport that eats up way too many resources imo. Football is a tough one....no other college sport really galvanizes an alumni-base, student body and local community like football. I think HC would be much the poorer without a football program but that's one man's opinion. Yea you're right. Hockey is a niche sport -- SPECIFICALLY IN NEW ENGLAND!!!
Agree on football -- I hope I never hear that the school ever even considers dropping (or downgrading) football.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 19, 2017 16:36:02 GMT -5
Yet another grass is always greener elsewhere thread. What school should HC emulate in some other higher conference?  There is only ONE strictly liberal arts school playing in a higher conference, and that's Davidson. And Davidson has no ice hockey, and plays non-scollie football This past season, playing football against non-scollie foes, it went 2-9. St. Mary's you say? 32% of its graduates in 2015 got degrees in business/marketing. There is no point in changing conferences unless HC makes fundamental changes to the curriculum. Hell may freeze first. And its foolish and masochistic to keep regurgitating the same premises, the same arguments, and the same conclusions, however flawed, until and unless you confront that fact. |
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Post by ncaam on Mar 19, 2017 17:30:02 GMT -5
Business/marketing?....HC welcome to the 21st century.
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