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Post by sader1970 on Jul 28, 2017 8:58:51 GMT -5
I have never seen that Villanova's academic reputation exceeds Holy Cross. I would readily admit the gap has closed somewhat but where do you see that Villanova has surpassed Holy Cross' academic reputation?
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Post by dharry13 on Jul 28, 2017 9:08:01 GMT -5
Villanova's academic reputation hasn't surpassed it in any way. We are ahead of them in most if not all published rankings. 2016 - Villanova acceptance rate - 43.5%; Holy Cross - 37%. Hmm - just quick math indicates we are also a harder school to get into.
Finally - just saw a post regarding the Holy Cross Fund - just surpassed 10M for the first time in the School's history. And I quote "Holy Cross broke fundraising records in almost every category this past fiscal year, underscoring the community's deep affection for the College and unwavering commitment to its priorities". I don't know - I'm just spitballing here - but something seems to be going right regarding HC's overall financial health.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 28, 2017 9:34:10 GMT -5
Villanova's academic reputation hasn't surpassed it in any way. We are ahead of them in most if not all published rankings. 2016 - Villanova acceptance rate - 43.5%; Holy Cross - 37%. Hmm - just quick math indicates we are also a harder school to get into. Finally - just saw a post regarding the Holy Cross Fund - just surpassed 10M for the first time in the School's history. And I quote "Holy Cross broke fundraising records in almost every category this past fiscal year, underscoring the community's deep affection for the College and unwavering commitment to its priorities". I don't know - I'm just spitballing here - but something seems to be going right regarding HC's overall financial health. Holy Cross " Test Score Optional" Selectivity rate this year was a 39%. That cannot be compared to Villanova's selectivity rate of 43.5 via quick math. I would consider it (HC's rate) to be inferior if I had to give an opinion. As would college guidance counsellors. Knowledge of 'test score optional' tells me that. Further the average ACT/SAT accepted scores at Villanova are higher than those at Holy Cross notwithstanding the fact that, again Holy Cross is 'test score optional' and accepted HC students with the higher scores are most likely to submit them. “ With colleges and universities engaged in intense competition to recruit ever more talented and diverse students,” Mr. Epstein says, “test-optional policies become alluring.” One advantage is that they generate significantly more applicants ....
But there are others: the crush of applications makes colleges look more selective, and because low-scorers are less likely to share their results with admissions officers, score averages can be artificially higher."
- www.nytimes.com/2009/07/26/education/edlife/26guidance-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0After working with thousands of students over the last 30 years, I can assure you HC's reputation is still good but, as with everything in life, things change. Obviously (from my perspective), it is more difficult to gain admission to Villanova than it is to Holy Cross. That was not always the case. To be fair, if you're not in the business you might not recognize the red flags and implications of 'test score optional". You also might not have current knowledge of admitted student credentials. Rest assured prospective students, parents, and guidance counsellors do. Heck, if you don't know football, cornerback and quarterback sound/seem pretty similar.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 28, 2017 9:49:30 GMT -5
Holy Cross remains categorized as a national liberal arts college. Villanova, last I looked, was a regional university. To this admittedly biased observer, they may both be football players but Holy Cross is the QB and Villanova is the CB. Edit: I stand corrected. Villanova is now ranked in national universities. They are ranked #50 of 310 per USN&WR. Holy Cross is #32 of 239 national liberal arts colleges. Holy Cross Villanova Acceptance rate 37% 48% Student/faculty 9:1 12:1 4 year grad 89% 87%
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Post by hcpride on Jul 28, 2017 10:24:16 GMT -5
Holy Cross remains categorized as a national liberal arts college. Villanova, last I looked, was a regional university. To this admittedly biased observer, they may both be football players but Holy Cross is the QB and Villanova is the CB. Edit: I stand corrected. Villanova is now ranked in national universities. They are ranked #50 of 310 per USN&WR. Holy Cross is #32 of 239 national liberal arts colleges. Holy Cross Villanova Acceptance rate 37% 48% Student/faculty 9:1 12:1 4 year grad 89% 87% Things certainly change. I was talking to a grandparent of a high school senior about 10 months ago and he was positive about two things: HC football is better now than Villanova football and HC is harder to get into. I let him down gently (to his credit, after viewing the higher SAT/ACT accepted student average at Villanova and understanding that the 'test score optional' strategy made it appear closer than it really is, he got it). I just let the football delusion stand. Kid did the (now usual) ND/GU/BC applications with Villanova as a safety school.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Jul 28, 2017 10:38:49 GMT -5
Wow....just wow. Cripes, Hoyas have 2 reps and we have just the 1 rep ! I'm guessing ( really ? ) we'll be picked to be the caboose. Who seriously cares who is on the preseason team?
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Post by sarasota on Jul 28, 2017 11:06:37 GMT -5
Wanna walk this one back just a little bit? I'm going to bet that a whole bunch of them have quite legitimate reasons for not attending the reunion. Commitments to family and especially kids. Distance. Business commitments. Just some that come immediately to mind. Why is everything so black and white for you? You are taking me 100% literally. Please take an Adult Ed course in Reading Comprehension. Thanks.
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Post by dharry13 on Jul 28, 2017 11:08:24 GMT -5
Hard to differentiate often times because of the toxicity of your tone.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 28, 2017 11:42:24 GMT -5
Who seriously cares who is on the preseason team? I would say there are many who care because they find these picks entertaining. I don't think many believe they have any more weight than that - other than, perhaps, putting some players in a spotlight for post-season honors.
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Post by sarasota on Jul 28, 2017 13:25:36 GMT -5
Disagreement deemed hate speech. Emphatic Disagreement deemed toxic.
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Post by inhocsigno on Jul 28, 2017 16:50:48 GMT -5
Disagreement deemed hate speech. Emphatic Disagreement deemed toxic. Not sure why you went to hate speech. You are, however, very negative on here. Your opinions, albeit tiresome and often incorrect, are freely and rightly yours to give. Your calls for the discontinuation of the program are nonetheless toxic.
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