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Post by crossbball13 on Aug 15, 2017 16:29:12 GMT -5
I actually like the away BU game on a Saturday. Many alums are in Boston (like it or not) and its always a nice game to attend and see familiar faces without having to travel to Woo (and without having to rush over to Comm Ave during rush hour).
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Post by JRGNYR on Aug 16, 2017 7:37:16 GMT -5
But our scheduling has been insane. Every attempt should be made to travel far during breaks and weekends during conference. It isn't HC making the schedule, it's the league office, and they have 10 masters to serve with the same parameters to apply to each. As such, what everybody gets in the end is a compromise they'll have to accept.
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Post by JRGNYR on Aug 16, 2017 7:39:54 GMT -5
That's where a strong leader in the AD chair comes in. If the schedule is done by cretins at PL House, and HC and other schools are disadvantaged travel-wise, then AD's like ADNP have to step in. BU for us HAS TO BE on Wednesdays during class time. Never, never during semester break or any other break should we be playing them. Same for AU and LU, Lehi and Lafayette, etc. Woe the humanity if we played BU twice during the second half of the season? We seem to play Bucknell on weekends. Makes sense. Does that happen by accident? Same for ooc. We should try to play as often as we can during weekends/breaks for travel games and mid-week for our rivalry games with the SHUs and Fairfields. Cretins, LOL. You do you, 70.
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Post by ncaam on Aug 16, 2017 7:48:05 GMT -5
Tell your dad I'm looking forward to sitting with him at the Lafayette game.
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Post by ncaam on Aug 16, 2017 7:50:25 GMT -5
I actually like the away BU game on a Saturday. Many alums are in Boston (like it or not) and its always a nice game to attend and see familiar faces without having to travel to Woo (and without having to rush over to Comm Ave during rush hour). How many hc alums at that game?
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Post by JRGNYR on Aug 16, 2017 7:57:12 GMT -5
Tell your dad I'm looking forward to sitting with him at the Lafayette game. I'll be sure to brief him on your comments. Since I was there, does that make me one? I'm very proud to have worked there, and they're still my colleagues through other projects. Even if you don't agree with some of the things they do, they're professionals and deserve respect.
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Post by ncaam on Aug 16, 2017 8:14:48 GMT -5
We're you a scheduler? Scheduling in the PL is atrocious. Who are the schedulers? How do I drop them a line?
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Post by JRGNYR on Aug 16, 2017 8:35:02 GMT -5
We're you a scheduler? Scheduling in the PL is atrocious. Who are the schedulers? How do I drop them a line? From what I recall, it was senior staff who worked on the schedules based on certain parameters set forth by administrators with feedback from coaches. Your best bet is to reach out to ADNP or one of the senior level staffers at HC and ask your questions - I doubt you'd hear anything from the league if you reached out. It's not state secrets they're protecting, but it's not their place to share specific discussions or reasoning unless they're told to. I was not a scheduler when I was there, I worked in communications. Where I am now, I do more with creating schedules. Generally speaking from the conference perspective, schedules are created via parameters set mainly by people from campus - typically coaches and administrators. Once created, the schedules have to go through levels of administrator approval with representatives from all of the campuses having the opportunity to weigh in. If a coach, AD or other admin from a campus has a question or issue with a schedule, there are plenty of opportunities to provide feedback. In the end, as with just about everything from a conference perspective, it isn't the conference saying unilaterally "here it is, deal with it," it's the schools themselves coming to an agreement on a way in which to execute an initiative - schedules, policies, how to conduct championships, whatever. Afterwards, the schools hand it to the conference and essentially say, "Help us make this happen." Typically, schedules are built several years in advance. You have to look at the big picture with conference schedules and not as each year in its own individual bubble. And while this isn't always the case, there's typically some rotations built in over the course of several years, which is why I can think back to seeing HC/Lafayette games in Easton on both Saturdays and Wednesdays in years past.
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Post by ncaam on Aug 16, 2017 8:40:12 GMT -5
Thank you very much for the feedback. Helps to illuminate the process. Some on the board believe it was all the league that made the schedules. I doubted that but couldn't prove it. It makes sense that the coaches and athletic directors would have input. I have already expressed my opinions to Holy Cross and to the Patriot League. Obviously they are not following through on my suggestions. The ivy league, which we aspire to be, plays Friday and Saturday couplets. Why? Because they don't want to spend all that time on buses during class time. What I'm trying to do is to mirror that thinking as best we can in The Patriot League. Please answer me one question. Does it make sense for Holy Cross and bu to play on Wednesdays during class time?
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Post by JRGNYR on Aug 16, 2017 9:00:42 GMT -5
Please answer me one question. Does it make sense for Holy Cross and bu to play on Wednesdays during class time? Happy to answer questions as best I can. I feel there are many assumptions made about how business is conducted and if there times when I can provide some level of clarity, I'm happy to make the attempt. To answer your last question, it depends entirely on what you're trying to achieve. From a strictly travel standpoint, it would make sense IMO for HC and BU to play during the week to limit the incursion on the class schedule. However, it appears HC and BU are putting forth a concerted effort to make the Turnpike Trophy mean something between the institutions, to build awareness and generate some interest and attendance, and that might be why the games are on weekends now. It's not uncommon for schools to make requests to play certain opponents on specific days/dates. But that's another example or a request/parameter that comes into play when creating a schedule. And the more parameters you put in place, the numbers of available workable combinations decreases and it becomes a harder puzzle to crack. Try building a schedule with an odd number of teams where everybody gets a bye and you have to keep a final exam schedule in mind. Welcome to spring scheduling.
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Post by ncaam on Aug 16, 2017 9:24:19 GMT -5
The BU/Turnpike Trophy idea is a failure. We dont play them in football, baseball and hockey. What kind of rivalry is that? What i suggested to the pl and hc is that teams play their geographic neighbor on wednesdays during class time. Twice during the season the teams play a couplet of distance teams on thursday/sat or sat/monday. TV seems to like games on a multiplicity of days. Nothing radical here. I'm not trying to get UConn to the Hart. I'm just trying to rationalize travel in a league that favors academics over athletics. Thanks for your answer.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 16, 2017 12:52:11 GMT -5
How pathetic is it that Boston University has no football team and no baseball team.......
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 16, 2017 12:59:12 GMT -5
Baseball a dead man walking sport in NE, though.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Aug 16, 2017 13:31:49 GMT -5
How pathetic is it that Boston University has no football team and no baseball team....... How is that working out for the hockey and basketball teams?
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Post by crossbball13 on Aug 16, 2017 19:35:16 GMT -5
I actually like the away BU game on a Saturday. Many alums are in Boston (like it or not) and its always a nice game to attend and see familiar faces without having to travel to Woo (and without having to rush over to Comm Ave during rush hour). How many hc alums at that game? A lot. Stop being a wise ass.
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Post by ncaam on Aug 16, 2017 20:31:28 GMT -5
I've been part of that lot. Not a lot. And most who attend are season ticket holders who would be at the game on Wednesday night in Worcester or Boston. Come to the Hart and see Bucknell etc on the weekend.
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