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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 31, 2017 13:30:57 GMT -5
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Post by breezy on Aug 31, 2017 14:19:16 GMT -5
My favorite Rollie Massimino story from his days of coaching HS basketball in New Jersey. (It was a long time ago, so I may not be remembering this exactly right, but it's certainly close.)
Rollie was working with a forward/center and trying to get him to be more aggressive with his rebounding. The player was trying hard but was frustrated during a practice scrimmage.
He was unsuccessful in getting a rebound and as he ran back up the court, he shouted "Darn!" Rollie shouts back: "What did you say?"
On the next time down the court, he is again unsuccessful in getting a rebound, and this time he shouts "Damn it!" while running back up the court. Rollie shouts: "What did you say?"
Once again he is unsuccessful getting a rebound. This time he shouts "F@&k" as he is running back up the court. Rollie smiles and shouts: "That's the spirit!"
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Post by hc87 on Aug 31, 2017 17:38:58 GMT -5
Massimino is in the Mass. Coaches HoF for his time/success at Lexington HS in the '60s.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 2, 2017 7:57:28 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Sept 2, 2017 8:06:06 GMT -5
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Sept 2, 2017 9:21:12 GMT -5
I am probably in the minority, but ( with no disrespect to the man) I've always felt that calling that 1985 championship one of the biggest upsets in college basketball history was a bit of an overstatement. Now, the way they played that game (especially the near perfect second half) was tremendous, but it wasn't like it was a MAAC team knocking off the mighty Hoyas. If memory serves, Villanova played them pretty tough during the regular season, and any team out of the 1980's Big East was very much battle tested.
He certainly was quite the character on the sidelines....may he RIP
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 2, 2017 9:29:38 GMT -5
"Character" is a good term. RIP coach.
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Post by joe on Sept 2, 2017 11:53:00 GMT -5
As I was a diehard Nova fan as a kid, an Italian-American, and son of a Wildcat, Rollie was big part of the mythology of my youth. Until HC wins the NCAA championship, that one April night in 1985 will be the greatest fan memory in sports I will ever have. Rollie has simply passed from living legend to legend. Rest in peace, paison.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 2, 2017 20:25:48 GMT -5
We scrimmaged Lexington before the 67-68 season. They had a 6-8 kid (who played at Yale) who made a mistake or two. Rollie freaked out, was screaming at the kid from an inch or two away. As he was a good foot shorter, he was in his chest, not his face. The kid looked like he was going to cry. |
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Post by hchoops on Sept 2, 2017 20:35:42 GMT -5
I am probably in the minority, but ( with no disrespect to the man) I've always felt that calling that 1985 championship one of the biggest upsets in college basketball history was a bit of an overstatement. Now, the way they played that game (especially the near perfect second half) was tremendous, but it wasn't like it was a MAAC team knocking off the mighty Hoyas. If memory serves, Villanova played them pretty tough during the regular season, and any team out of the 1980's Big East was very much battle tested. He certainly was quite the character on the sidelines....may he RIP Rather than one of the biggest upsets of all time, it has been called, rightfully in my view, one of the greatest upsets in the championship gam. Nova was an eight seed playing the top seeded and defending national champ. Even NCState was a 6 seed in beating 1 seed Houston in '83 in another major upset with a most dramatic ending. |
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Post by hc87 on Sept 2, 2017 22:15:06 GMT -5
I am probably in the minority, but ( with no disrespect to the man) I've always felt that calling that 1985 championship one of the biggest upsets in college basketball history was a bit of an overstatement. Now, the way they played that game (especially the near perfect second half) was tremendous, but it wasn't like it was a MAAC team knocking off the mighty Hoyas. If memory serves, Villanova played them pretty tough during the regular season, and any team out of the 1980's Big East was very much battle tested. He certainly was quite the character on the sidelines....may he RIP Good point actually....it wasn't as if Villanova was Milan/Hickory High in 1985....they had lost to GTown earlier that year by scores of 52-50 and 57-50 that season and spent much of the season in the Top 20 A great run by the Wildcats and Daddy Mass....but they really didn't come from "nowhere" that season. www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/villanova/1985-schedule.html |
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Post by timholycross on Sept 3, 2017 8:15:20 GMT -5
That type of game was much more possible in that era...no shot clock, no 3 point rule (although at the beginning of the 3 point era it was a big equalizer in big vs small matchups until the bigs caught on).
The other thing you could do more back in the day was take more chances fouling a weaker shooting team...no double bonus, everything non-shooting was 1-1.
I'm not saying I'm in favor of saying going back to any of the above. Only change I really don't like is when the shot clock went from 35 seconds to 30....and high school has no business being 30 seconds at all.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 3, 2017 8:46:41 GMT -5
Only 8 states have a shot clock for HS hoops
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Sept 3, 2017 9:11:49 GMT -5
Some of you may remember the late, great Crompton Park Summer League that would draw 1,500+ some nites. In summer of '85, Worc native and Holy Name's Dwayne "D-train" McClain (who was a regular) brought Mark Plansky & Harold Jensen from the '85 champs to play a couple times, as rosters were fluid night in and nite out. Doug Flutie also was one of the marquee names who played occasionally.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 3, 2017 11:48:31 GMT -5
That type of game was much more possible in that era...no shot clock, no 3 point rule (although at the beginning of the 3 point era it was a big equalizer in big vs small matchups until the bigs caught on). The other thing you could do more back in the day was take more chances fouling a weaker shooting team...no double bonus, everything non-shooting was 1-1. I'm not saying I'm in favor of saying going back to any of the above. Only change I really don't like is when the shot clock went from 35 seconds to 30....and high school has no business being 30 seconds at all. New York State boys hs has a 35 second clock |
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Post by hc87 on Sept 3, 2017 13:11:43 GMT -5
I was surprised to learn that most states don't have a shot-clock recently. There is a lot of animus against putting one in in many states too from some of the discussions I've seen online about it.
I played and coached (for a couple years I think) before a shot clock was instituted in Massachusetts. It's a much bettah game with one imo. As a player, we basically "sat' on the ball when we played much larger schools like New Bedford or Durfee...presumably made for more competitive games score-wise but would often result in atrocious finals of like 31-22 etc
From my experience, the 30 second shot clock gives ample time (at the hs level) for a team to get a good look on most possessions. I wouldn't be against a 35 second shot clock but I don't see it as being needed.
Lastly, lol...that '85 Nova team was very New England laden wasn't it? McClain (Woo), Gary McClain (Methuen by way of NY I think), Plansky (Wakefield), Pressley (CT), Jensen (CT)...a couple other less notable guys too.
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Post by nhteamer on Sept 5, 2017 8:55:59 GMT -5
Wow, had someone abandoned the field in Massachusetts hoops?
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Post by hc87 on Sept 5, 2017 11:43:53 GMT -5
Wow, had someone abandoned the field in Massachusetts hoops? I know...I've often thought that....in a parallel universe with HC in the Big East, what players might have ended up on Mt St James? Not only the ones on Nova '85 but guys like Chris Mullin, Terry Gannon etc etc who have said they were recruited to HC but couldn't turn down playing in the BE or ACC. Oh well  |
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