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Post by hchoops on Sept 19, 2017 14:20:25 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Sept 19, 2017 14:34:59 GMT -5
I have posted this before but I know most of the athletic kids between 3rd and 8th grade in my mid-sized CT town and I can count on one hand how many of them play tackle football. Meanwhile, the local NFL flag football league has seen exponential growth over the last three years.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 19, 2017 14:49:12 GMT -5
Wonder if those stats hold true in Texas, Penn, etc ?
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Post by HC92 on Sept 19, 2017 14:55:34 GMT -5
Wonder if those stats hold true in Texas, Penn, etc ? Probably not. CT kids are soft. |
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Post by nhteamer on Sept 19, 2017 16:47:27 GMT -5
soccer is worse
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Post by hchoops on Sept 19, 2017 16:52:04 GMT -5
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Post by nhteamer on Sept 19, 2017 17:00:34 GMT -5
on knees and ankles
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 19, 2017 18:06:29 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Sept 19, 2017 20:07:16 GMT -5
Hockey is definitely a tough one for youth concussions. Lots of kids wiping out and slamming their heads on the ice.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 19, 2017 20:25:37 GMT -5
Yes. There are numerous studies of damage to the brain caused by undiagnosed concussions among youth soccer players. |
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Post by hc87 on Sept 19, 2017 20:52:51 GMT -5
Can we just please eliminate all sports once and for all?  |
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Post by hchoops on Sept 19, 2017 21:06:11 GMT -5
Yes. There are numerous studies of damage to the brain caused by undiagnosed concussions among youth soccer players. But my point was that there are more brain injuries by youth football than by youth soccer, which (dr) nhteamer agreed with |
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Post by HC92 on Sept 19, 2017 21:47:55 GMT -5
Yes. There are numerous studies of damage to the brain caused by undiagnosed concussions among youth soccer players. I think a lot of that was around the repeated minor traumas to the head from heading the ball at a young age. They have now eliminated heading the ball from youth soccer at the younger ages. |
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Post by joe on Sept 20, 2017 6:10:21 GMT -5
It's the "repetitive" trauma that causes CTE. Although this study again underscores the fragility of the developing brain, in neither cohort were the subjects playing during the era of CTE awareness where kids are pulled out for prolonged periods if there is even the slightest hint of a concussion. This allows for the brain to heal to prevent a repetitive injury. And many kids now have to give up their sports if multiple head injuries occur. My friend's son, in the 8th grade, 13 years old and 180 lbs, monster, just bid farewell to football in favor of having a brain, focuses now on baseball. Someday the better study will be to compare players from before and after CTE awareness, but by then youth football might be extinct. Not making recommendations or judgements, as I'm still undecided on this. Hopefully we will have a way to diagnosis or predict CTE based on MRI on living people, rather than retrospectively by autosopsy.
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Post by alum on Sept 20, 2017 7:52:05 GMT -5
My three boys played baseball (one broken arm trying to catch a ball during a home run derby,) soccer (no injuries although my 5'0 90 pound middle son sent a goalie to the hospital when a group of players went up for a ball on a free kick,) hockey (11 years of it for one son--no injuries,) lacrosse (torn UCL requiring Tommy John surgery from a slash in a high school game,) and basketball (torn cartilage on sternum going for a loose ball.) In retrospect, I consider us to have been very lucky.
On the other hand, they have a friend who played hockey at an increasingly competitive level for years. I recall him leaving school on Fridays in middle school because his team was in a league in New Jersey. He spent part of his senior year in high school living in Pennsylvania playing in a junior league. The college scholarships never materialized but he had six confirmed concussions and probably more than a dozen. After he died of suicide at age 23, his family had his brain sent to BU where they confirmed he had CTE.
I love youth sports and I loved being a hockey parent. My son who played it was kind of a grumpy little kid. Hockey took us out of town with a different group of people at practices with no standing around and requiring a helmet and a mouth guard. He did not play year round and did not play at anything above the basic club level as a youth and played on a low level public high school team, but he loved every minute of it. I do not recall ever having to ask him twice if he was ready to go to a game or practice. I hate to think that it is too unsafe to play, but knowing what I know now, I am not sure we ever would have started it.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 20, 2017 8:19:45 GMT -5
What a tragic story.
Thank you, alum, for your openness and honesty.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 20, 2017 9:15:31 GMT -5
alum,
Thank you for sharing that story.
I know that football can have some extreme brain injuries associated with a single hard blow. However, soccer sees repeated shocks to the brain because of heading the ball. Perhaps the ban on heading in youth soccer will help but that has yet to be determined. I do see increasing evidence that age 12 seems to be an important milestone, with concussions prior to that age having worse long term effects. There is no easy fix on this one.
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