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Post by timholycross on Jan 20, 2018 14:31:02 GMT -5
Air Force has cancelled athletic events due to the government shutdown.
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Post by Tom on Jan 21, 2018 21:42:37 GMT -5
www.goairforcefalcons.com/This appears to be confirmed. Seems kind of strange one service academy would cancel for the shutdown while the other two don't
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Post by bison137 on Jan 21, 2018 22:43:19 GMT -5
Navy's athletic program is funded almost entirely by the NAAA, not the government. I imagine Army gets much of its funding from the Army Athletic Association, which is not as powerful as the NAAA but is still a huge organization. The Air Force, as I understand it, has a similar organization but it is much newer and much smaller. A much higher percentage of their athletic funding likely comes from the government.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 21, 2018 23:05:01 GMT -5
Also per today's NY Post, Army and Navy's athletic dept's are largely staffed by civilian employees, as opposed to the AFA which has a much higher % of Federal employees.
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Post by bison137 on Jan 21, 2018 23:16:44 GMT -5
Also per today's NY Post, Army and Navy's athletic dept's are largely staffed by civilian employees, as opposed to the AFA which has a much higher % of Federal employees. Yes, that is because the Army and Navy coaches etc are all paid by the AAA and the NAAA, making them civilian employees. That is why the two - especially Navy - can pay such high salaries to coaches. That's how Navy can pay Ken Niumatalolo over $2 million a year and his top assistants in the neighborhood of $750k. And why they could sign DeChellis to a contract with a total value over $3 Million. |
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Post by hc6774 on Jan 22, 2018 9:48:54 GMT -5
Also per today's NY Post, Army and Navy's athletic dept's are largely staffed by civilian employees, as opposed to the AFA which has a much higher % of Federal employees. Yes, that is because the Army and Navy coaches etc are all paid by the AAA and the NAAA, making them civilian employees. That is why the two - especially Navy - can pay such high salaries to coaches. That's how Navy can pay Ken Niumatalolo over $2 million a year and his top assistants in the neighborhood of $750k. And why they could sign DeChellis to a contract with a total value over $3 Million. the facilities are govt owned... are the AA's non profit...who gets the revenue gate receipts/TV$$  ... uniformed staff including the bands are active duty |
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Post by bison137 on Jan 22, 2018 10:46:53 GMT -5
The AA's are non-profit. They pay the great majority of the salaries/benefits of the coaches and administrators. They also have paid some of the construction costs of the facilities.
I am not sure about the gate receipts etc, but I suspect much of it goes to the AA's. Navy's AA a few years ago had over $35 Million in revenue excluding all contributions
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Post by hchoops on Jan 22, 2018 10:51:17 GMT -5
Navy's AA a few years ago had over $35 Million in revenue excluding all contributions Then where did the 35mm come from ? |
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Post by matunuck on Jan 22, 2018 11:07:06 GMT -5
Common misconception that academy athletics are funded primarily by the USG.
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Post by hc6774 on Jan 22, 2018 11:09:04 GMT -5
thanx 137... probably most of that revenue is generated by the fball team... wonder how much gets to the PL vs non PL teams coaches/admin.
the question of active duty personnel involvement is 'off duty activity'... compensation for off duty work/activity is not uncommon
re active duty bands... I've had some experience with the Navy band in Newport... participation is limited to patriotic, non fund raising events and the sponsor must feed them & may need to provide transport if out of its area of operation... presumably they are on active duty because they are made available by their command [in this case the Naval War College] and are compensated with other off duty time.... when the Army/Navy band travels to a PL bball game it meets the event criteria.
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Post by bison137 on Jan 22, 2018 11:37:08 GMT -5
Navy's AA a few years ago had over $35 Million in revenue excluding all contributions Then where did the 35mm come from ? Likely gate receipts and/or TV money. |
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Post by bison137 on Jan 22, 2018 11:43:14 GMT -5
Note that since 2013, a poorly written Congressional bill has allowed the Service Academies to hide their spending on athletics. The AA's no longer file form 990's, as other non-profits do - and they don't release nearly as much data as other colleges are required to do. There has been talk about amending the bill, since the sponsors never intended the SA's to utilize a loophole to hide expenditures, but it hasn't happened yet. There is no reason why they should be allowed to hide the numbers.
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... uniformed staff including the bands are active duty