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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 29, 2018 18:11:11 GMT -5
Lots of Patriot League schools as well. Wow. Devastating. Acceptances for the class of 2017 at 9 of the 10 full members of the PL, at both football-only members, and at MIT which is an associate member in women's rowing. IN the NESCAC list, no acceptances at Amherst or Hamilton,, but acceptances at Williams, Bates, Bowdoin, Colby, Tufts, Wesleyan, Conn College, Middlebury, Trinity. _____________________________________________________________ I have to say, adding "The" before a university name is becoming quite the affectation. From the Marin Catholic acceptance list The American University of Paris The Art Institute of California The Catholic University of America The Citadel, The Military College of South Carolina The College of Idaho The College of Wooster The Evergreen State College The George Washington University The New School - All Divisions The Ohio State University The University of Alabama The University of Arizona The University of Georgia The University of Oklahoma The University of Tampa The University of Texas, Austin The University of Texas, Dallas ___________________________ Holy Cross did much better with the class of 2016 at St. Ignatius Prep in San Francisco; three matriculants! www.ignatius.org/media/2594/2016-final-college-report.pdfOne HC matriculant from the St. Ignatius class of 2015, and none from the classes of 2014 and 2013. I think this may reflect someone from HC admissions actually starting to visit St. Ignatius.
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Post by matunuck on Aug 1, 2018 9:50:06 GMT -5
August 1 and still no admissions profile update on the HC website. Meanwhile, other schools have already produced glossy PDFs profiling their class of 2022 months ago let alone simply update their respective websites.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 28, 2018 11:39:52 GMT -5
From Father Boroughs,
"Our incoming 870 students, the Class of 2022, have settled in on Mount St. James. Yes, they are a large group!
They come from 32 states in the U.S., D.C., Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands, with 46 percent from outside of New England.
The class is 50 percent male and 50 percent female.
Twenty percent of the students are African-American, Latin American, Asian-American, and Native American (ALANA), while 15 percent are first-generation college students.
We also welcomed 26 international students from six foreign countries: Canada, China, Finland, Jamaica, Korea and the Philippines.
Eighty-three percent of this incoming class was ranked in the top 20 percent of their high school class, while 58 percent were ranked in the top 10 percent."
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 28, 2018 11:41:43 GMT -5
Did the parents of incoming first year students receive Fr. B's email about our former organist? If so, what a welcome to Worcester!
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Post by purplehaze on Aug 28, 2018 12:17:42 GMT -5
The size of this class must be a record - would imagine plenty of triples. Time to build more dorms. The school’s enrollment is now officially more than 3000. IMO, a good thing
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Post by purplenurple on Aug 28, 2018 12:27:14 GMT -5
The size of this class must be a record - would imagine plenty of triples. Time to build more dorms. The school’s enrollment is now officially more than 3000. IMO, a good thing Why did you think that this is a good thing? Just wondering your thoughts on the matter, not being contentious. When I first see that number I think, we could have admitted fewer students, lowering the acceptance rate, increasing the SAT range, class rank, etc.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 28, 2018 12:56:42 GMT -5
The size of this class must be a record - would imagine plenty of triples. Time to build more dorms. The school’s enrollment is now officially more than 3000. IMO, a good thing It surely is. When the Common Data Set comes out, one can compare fin aid levels to previous years, but I will speculate the number of full pays has increased compared to the number receiving fin aid. The endowment has not yet grown enough to increase significantly the amount of financial aid, and the college's budget was pretty much set in January, before the admissions process was complete.. The college is offsetting some of the enrollment growth by 'pushing' students into a year abroad or Washington / New York semester programs. But I think you are right about the need for a new residence hall, sooner rather than later. I do not know how many, if any, students are now housed on the college-owned houses on City View and Caro.
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Post by purplenurple on Aug 28, 2018 13:17:59 GMT -5
The size of this class must be a record - would imagine plenty of triples. Time to build more dorms. The school’s enrollment is now officially more than 3000. IMO, a good thing It surely is. When the Common Data Set comes out, one can compare fin aid levels to previous years, but I will speculate the number of full pays has increased compared to the number receiving fin aid. The endowment has not yet grown enough to increase significantly the amount of financial aid, and the college's budget was pretty much set in January, before the admissions process was complete.. The college is offsetting some of the enrollment growth by 'pushing' students into a year abroad or Washington / New York semester programs. But I think you are right about the need for a new residence hall, sooner rather than later. I do not know how many, if any, students are now housed on the college-owned houses on City View and Caro. I think think there may be some semester abroad programs now as well. I wish they had those when I was an undergrad. The prospect of a year away from the Cross was intimidating.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 28, 2018 13:40:05 GMT -5
The size of this class must be a record - would imagine plenty of triples. Time to build more dorms. The school’s enrollment is now officially more than 3000. IMO, a good thing Why did you think that this is a good thing? Just wondering your thoughts on the matter, not being contentious. When I first see that number I think, we could have admitted fewer students, lowering the acceptance rate, increasing the SAT range, class rank, etc. Maybe our yield increased significantly, i.e. a higher percentage of accepted students chose to come to HC than we normally see.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 28, 2018 14:11:37 GMT -5
Th real reason for this large number is to reduce the faculty/student ratio. Same faculty, more students . . . . voila!
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Post by alum on Aug 28, 2018 14:32:51 GMT -5
I cannot believe that our yield could have increased. I read someplace that the sky over Holy Cross had fallen.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 28, 2018 15:53:10 GMT -5
Ahh-ha! Yet another benefit of the LAC and the planned new fieldhouse (or whatever it's called). Lots of space for all those varsity and non-varsity athletes to play in.
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Post by HC92 on Aug 28, 2018 16:54:51 GMT -5
Only 58% finished in the top 10% of their high school class. Didn’t this number used to be higher?
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Post by matunuck on Aug 28, 2018 17:36:43 GMT -5
As is usual for HC, precious little academic info released.
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Post by hcpride on Aug 28, 2018 17:54:17 GMT -5
Last year 57.2 percent in top 10 percent as I recall. Letter says this year it is 58 percent.
This year we had over 7K applicants so I would expect our acceptance to decrease somewhat. Of course that is also directly related to early decision, etc.I don’t recall seeing that figure yet. (I may have but I can’t recall).
Seems like a large class...I thought we were looking to sit around 3K total at this point.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 28, 2018 18:01:43 GMT -5
Comparison the classes of 2021 and 2022, 2022 in bold.
819 members of the Class of 2021 arrived on Mount St. James Our incoming 870 students, the Class of 2022, have settled in on Mount St. James. _______________ The students come from 32 states in the U.S., with 44% coming from outside of New England.
They come from 32 states in the U.S., D.C., Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands, with 46 percent from outside of New England _____________ The class is 48% male and 52% female. The class is 50 percent male and 50 percent female _____________ 22% of the students are African-American, Latin American, Asian-American, and Native American (ALANA), while 16% are first-generation college students.
Twenty percent of the students are African-American, Latin American, Asian-American, and Native American (ALANA), while 15 percent are first-generation college students. ___________ 33 international students come from 9 foreign countries: Australia, Canada, China, Germany, Greece, Mexico, Netherlands, South Korea, and Poland.
We also welcomed 26 international students from six foreign countries: Canada, China, Finland, Jamaica, Korea and the Philippines. ___________ 83% of students rank in the top 20 percent of their high school class, while 53% rank in the top 10 percent.
Eighty-three percent of this incoming class was ranked in the top 20 percent of their high school class, while 58 percent were ranked in the top 10 percent." _________ 10% of the students are sons or daughters of Holy Cross alumni, and a total of 335 students applied Early Decision to attend Holy Cross. No similar data for 2022
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Post by HC92 on Aug 28, 2018 18:38:12 GMT -5
Seems like most numbers are trending in the right direction. Curious that they haven’t provided the numbers on legacies.
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Post by hcpride on Aug 28, 2018 18:54:07 GMT -5
My number on last year's students ranking in their high school's top 10% (57.29%) is from CDS, not last year's letter. I'll wait for this year's CDS for an apples to apples comparison. (Admittedly this is a somewhat squishy number as more and more high schools do not rank and many do not even offer a decile descriptor.)
CDS states last year there were 6622 total applications and 2622 total admissions for an acceptance rate of 39.6%. Again, we'll see what winds up on CDS for a true comparison.
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Post by HC1843 on Aug 31, 2018 21:28:24 GMT -5
Only 58% finished in the top 10% of their high school class. Didn’t this number used to be higher? Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. These numbers stink. Cheers.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 31, 2018 22:38:33 GMT -5
For the class that entered in the fall of 2007, 65 percent were in the top 10 percent of their high school class.
That class enrolled 719 out of 7066 applicants. 2331 were admitted ____________________________
For the class that entered in the fall of 2007 at Colgate, 64 percent were in the top tenth of their high school class. 8759 applicants. 746 enrolled. 2242 admitted. ___________________________ For Lafayette, 66 percent of the class that entered in the fall of 2007 were in the top 10 percent of their high school class.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 31, 2018 22:53:41 GMT -5
Do we have data on the Yield for the past few classes?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 31, 2018 23:03:45 GMT -5
Do we have data on the Yield for the past few classes? I do. The college purged the CDS from the web for about five years, but either bison or eric told me how to retrieve them, and I did and saved. However, I don't yet have yield data for the class of 2022, and will have to wait for the CDS. The class of 2022 will likely have a higher yield than the class of 2011, because of the size of the entering class and the number of applicants being roughly the same.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 1, 2018 4:27:59 GMT -5
For the class that entered in the fall of 2007, 65 percent were in the top 10 percent of their high school class. That class enrolled 719 out of 7066 applicants. 2331 were admitted ____________________________ For the class that entered in the fall of 2007 at Colgate, 64 percent were in the top tenth of their high school class. 8759 applicants. 746 enrolled. 2242 admitted. ___________________________ For Lafayette, 66 percent of the class that entered in the fall of 2007 were in the top 10 percent of their high school class. These numbers speak for themselves (I am not suggesting Colgate, Holy Cross, and Lafayette are identical or have any applicant overlap to speak of) : 2007: 64% of enrolled frosh in their high school top 10% (Colgate) 65% of enrolled frosh in their high school top 10% (Holy Cross) 66% of enrolled frosh in their high school top 10% (Lafayette) 2018: 77% of enrolled frosh in their high school top 10% (Colgate) www.colgate.edu/docs/default-source/default-document-library/cds_2017-2018_v3.pdf?sfvrsn=0 57.29% of enrolled frosh in their high school top 10% (Holy Cross) www.holycross.edu/sites/default/files/files/planningandspecialproj/cds_2017-2018.pdf 58% of enrolled frosh in their high school top 10% (Lafayette) oir.lafayette.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/196/2017/11/CDS2017-2018.pdf(Probably a BC, Fordham, Holy Cross, Villanova comparison would be more appropriate/useful given our applicant overlap and northeast Catholic traditions.)
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 1, 2018 8:48:14 GMT -5
Maybe not. Comparing LACs with universities, and their substantially larger enrollment. Also BC doesn't publish a CDS, relying on its Factbook instead.
High school Class Rank matriculants in top 10 percent Colgate 77 percent 23 percent submitted rank Davidson 76 percent, 33 percent submitted HC 57.3 percent, 23 percent submitted HC says class rank is 'considered', same as standardized test score. Fairfield 40.5%, 16 percent submitted
GPA of 3.75 or higher Colgate 48 percent 100 percent submitted Davidson 82 percent, 98.5 percent submitted HC No data provided, although HC states that GPA is very important when reviewing an application.. HC's explanation: "Since schools often have different grading scales, the translation of GPA to a 4.0 scale is both impractical and unreliable.". HC may be unique in hiding this data. Fairfield 32.4 percent, 98 percent submitted
As HC doesn't require standardized tests, the above illustrates how HC games its 'competitiveness by publishing only minimal objective data. The only objective data point is the high school rank, which HC gives low weight to in the review of an application, and for which only 23 percent of the class of 2021 submitted a rank. Underscoring the subjectivity of Ann's admissions process, Ann decrees that the interview is "very important". Other schools state that an interview is not even considered in the review of an application.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 1, 2018 9:07:17 GMT -5
Maybe not. Comparing LACs with universities, and their substantially larger enrollment. Also BC doesn't publish a CDS, relying on its Factbook instead. High school Class Rank matriculants in top 10 percentColgate 77 percent 23 percent submitted rankDavidson 76 percent, 33 percent submitted HC 57.3 percent, 23 percent submitted HC says class rank is 'considered', same as standardized test score. Fairfield 40.5%, 16 percent submitted GPA of 3.75 or higherColgate 48 percent 100 percent submitted Davidson 82 percent, 98.5 percent submitted HC No data provided, although HC says GPA is very important. HC's explanation: Since schools often have different grading scales, the translation of GPA to a 4.0 scale is both impractical and unreliable.". Fairfield 32.4 percent, 98 percent submitted A quick explanation, please--using Colgate as an example "Colgate 77 percent 23 percent submitted rank"---Does this mean that 23 percent of Colgate matriculants told the college what their high school class rank was, and of those 23 "reporters" 77 percent were in the top 10 percent of their high school class??? If that is the case, I'll suggest that these percentages tell us very little---the 77% who did not submit could all have been #1 in their classes or at the bottom of their classes
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