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Post by purplehaze on Mar 18, 2018 13:25:00 GMT -5
About a 4 1/2 minute piece on good ol' HC, and this silly decision www.foxnews.com/ |
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Post by joutsHC77 on Mar 18, 2018 13:57:14 GMT -5
It's on the left hand side of the link, 6th entry down under Exclusive Clips.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 18, 2018 13:57:26 GMT -5
Nice to be in the news...not so nice to be in the news for something so idiotic. To Fox' credit they did not make the decision any goofier than it really is. Not sure they could have. They'll run a similar piece when the Seton Hall Pirates change their name. And replay the laugh track.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 18, 2018 14:33:27 GMT -5
Just think if we had done the right thing we might have heard a story starting this way: "In this world of rampant political correctness, one college has refused to bend to the will of whining social justice warriors...."
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 18, 2018 15:11:32 GMT -5
I now have greater respect for Lawrence Jones and I like how he pointed out the one cannot find truth "by telling only half of any story." There is no way the College comes out looking good on this...possibly why they had no comment when contacted by Fox News (according to Fox).
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Post by lou on Mar 18, 2018 15:24:33 GMT -5
What's the other half of the story? And why would you expect Holy Cross to comment to Fox News?
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Post by hchoops on Mar 18, 2018 16:37:40 GMT -5
Just think if we had done the right thing we might have heard a story starting this way: "In this world of rampant political correctness, one college has refused to bend to the will of whining social justice warriors...." “Social Justice” is one of the principles of HC and all Jesuit education, whining warriors or otherwise |
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Post by hcpride on Mar 18, 2018 16:45:33 GMT -5
Perhaps this particular episode of virtue signaling is so over-the-top it is actually embarrassing to MSNBC, CNN and NYT. Haven't seen their recent coverage (if any). Fox is doubled over with laughter at this lefty caricature we have created.
Apparently HC had no comment for Fox - one imagines HC did not even want to mistakenly utter the c-word (as it is now officially known) for fear of 'othering' or offending some oddball snowflakes.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 18, 2018 16:57:08 GMT -5
I'm a big believer in social justice--I've been a member of the St Vincent de Paul Society for many years and president of our conference for the last five. I also invest in KIVA to help people around the world create opportunities for themselves and contribute to all the second collections at my parish. I believe in the social justice causes those efforts support. In appending the word "whining" to "social justice warriors" I am drawing a distinction between what I believe to be worthy social justice issues and those that arise from politically correct nonsense. In my judgment the attack that killed our Crusader arises from the latter.
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Post by lou on Mar 18, 2018 16:57:45 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Mar 18, 2018 17:17:35 GMT -5
Most sensible, enlightening, and least embarrassing - by far - aspect of the short AP article is the Worcester pronunciation guide: "The president of the Worcester (WUS'-tur), Massachusetts, Jesuit college, the Rev. Philip Boroughs, wrote in a letter to students, alumni and staff Wednesday the depiction of a knight with the moniker Crusader is an inevitable reminder of the religious wars and violence that marked the Crusades." How funny would it be if the AP author's pronunciation guide went thusly: Worcester (WUSS'-tur)? |
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Post by gks on Mar 18, 2018 17:26:58 GMT -5
If Iggy the Crusader was representative of the knights on the battlefields of the Crusaders he would have lasted 5 seconds before being killed. Not one sensible person relates the Holy Cross Crusaders to 11th and 12th century warriors. Burrough's quotes are embarrassing and pathetic. He should be replaced immediately.
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Post by nhteamer on Mar 18, 2018 21:27:18 GMT -5
Just think if we had done the right thing we might have heard a story starting this way: "In this world of rampant political correctness, one college has refused to bend to the will of whining social justice warriors...." “Social Justice” is one of the principles of HC and all Jesuit education, whining warriors or otherwise so hoops, we were less devoted to social justice before we caved to the PC police than we are now. PA LEESE Left wing lunacy |
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 19, 2018 9:14:32 GMT -5
What's the other half of the story? And why would you expect Holy Cross to comment to Fox News? I would think the college would want to make a statement on the issue they created when contacted by a major news network. Why would you think they should not comment? |
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Post by lou on Mar 19, 2018 9:31:35 GMT -5
What's the other half of the story? And why would you expect Holy Cross to comment to Fox News? I would think the college would want to make a statement on the issue they created when contacted by a major news network. Why would you think they should not comment? I don't know, I wouldn't spend two seconds talking to Fox News, maybe Fr B feels the same way |
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Post by ncaam on Mar 19, 2018 9:33:41 GMT -5
Free publicity to tout our social justice?  |
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Post by hcpride on Mar 19, 2018 10:39:08 GMT -5
Fr. B's canned rationale that "the depiction of a knight with the moniker Crusader is an inevitable reminder of the religious wars and violence that marked the Crusades." would probably be met by Fox commenters with an explanation as to the time period of those Crusades as well as skepticism as to the 'inevitability' and damage of any reminder. I guess that is why some people watch Fox news.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 19, 2018 11:19:57 GMT -5
They watch to see if your guesses are correct?
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Post by beaven302 on Mar 19, 2018 11:43:12 GMT -5
If Iggy the Crusader was representative of the knights on the battlefields of the Crusaders he would have lasted 5 seconds before being killed. Not one sensible person relates the Holy Cross Crusaders to 11th and 12th century warriors. Burrough's quotes are embarrassing and pathetic. He should be replaced immediately. If anything, poor Iggy looks like a very cartoonish version of a knight at a jousting tournament. He looks less like a real battlefield crusader than Willie the Wildcat, Northwestern's goofy, grinning mascot, looks like the real predatory deal. |
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 19, 2018 13:36:13 GMT -5
I still see him as "separated at birth" from Marvin the Martian. ;
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Post by alum on Mar 19, 2018 15:43:57 GMT -5
As I have expressed before, doing away with the knight imagery is a suitable compromise for keeping the Crusader moniker. Quite frankly, they have been working their way to this for some time and most had not even noticed.
As to Iggy, he reminds me of Wally, the Green Monster. Despite my life long total and complete commitment to all things Red Sox, I have never been able to care about that creature. He, like Iggy, seems to have been the creation of some marketing person who heard teams were supposed to have a friendly mascot.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 19, 2018 16:15:34 GMT -5
As I have expressed before, doing away with the knight imagery is a suitable compromise for keeping the Crusader moniker. Quite frankly, they have been working their way to this for some time and most had not even noticed. I disagree with you 100%. It's so weak. They are trying to cater to both sides. Zero leadership coming from Fenwick. "We're okay being called the Crusaders, but we don't want that to be our mascot." Now, our mascot is an interlocking HC. I wonder how alumni giving will look this year. I received a call from HC last night, and had to tell a sophomore student that I was going to reconsider giving back to the College this year, after having given back each year since graduation. |
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Post by joutsHC77 on Mar 19, 2018 17:33:55 GMT -5
As I have expressed before, doing away with the knight imagery is a suitable compromise for keeping the Crusader moniker. Quite frankly, they have been working their way to this for some time and most had not even noticed. I wonder how alumni giving will look this year. I received a call from HC last night, and had to tell a sophomore student that I was going to reconsider giving back to the College this year, after having given back each year since graduation. Precisely SOV. After having donated every year since my graduation-and been a class agent for about 36 years, I am entertaining the idea of resigning and not donating to HC. Frankly put, fed up with the sniveling, gutless, wimpy attitudes emanating from the spires of HC. I think progressives have totally infiltrated HC's teaching and administration ranks. Bottom line, semper fidelis only applies to me with the Marine Corps, not HC!!! |
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Post by ncaam on Mar 19, 2018 17:51:22 GMT -5
I also told them to take me off the emailing list. If we all got off the emailing list we would get the message to them sooner than not donating which I am also planning not to do.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 20, 2018 5:06:31 GMT -5
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