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Post by hc87 on May 7, 2018 21:13:22 GMT -5
I can, maybe, see playing Penn St for "old times sake" etc but there is no reason for us to be playing any other B1G school.
The only FBS schools we should play are the old "Eastern Indies" or like-minded schools (Duke, Rice etc) that still play FBS football.
Playing Michigan, Ohio St etc. is just a "body-bag" game for a pay-check.
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Post by bigfan on May 8, 2018 6:44:39 GMT -5
It's comments like hc87 states that hurt recruiting. Athletes want to play against the best and the pay day helps with the finances of the athletic department.
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Post by ncaam on May 8, 2018 7:33:17 GMT -5
But he is correct
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Post by gks on May 8, 2018 7:38:38 GMT -5
If there is an offer to play Michigan then you take it....biggest no brainer in the history of the universe. Do you think Appalachian State was scared to play there. UMass went in a few years ago and played really, really well.
If you're afraid of getting hurt...don't play at all. Stupid and cowardly mentality.
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Post by gks on May 8, 2018 8:48:46 GMT -5
Would you schedule Big 10 in basketball, hockey? They're bigger and stronger than HC in those sports too.
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Post by rgs318 on May 8, 2018 8:51:21 GMT -5
I remember some guys who clearly no longer wanted to go against teams that had them outmanned and "out-scholarshipped." As we are reminded, that was a different era. Today, the exposure that comes with such games is something that fires players up and does seem to help with recruiting (from what I hear). If the players are for it, so am I. If they do not look forward to such a test, then I would say "let it go."
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Post by rgs318 on May 8, 2018 8:52:30 GMT -5
Would you schedule Big 10 in basketball, hockey? They're bigger and stronger than HC in those sports too. That is a legitimate question, but you don't see players being carried off or getting season ending injuries nearly as frequently in those sports.
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Post by joe on May 8, 2018 9:05:44 GMT -5
I’ve stated before that these games are fine provided HC has a certain level of strength and skill to at least make it somewhat respectable. Right now we don’t. It’s simply a safety issue, in my mind. A loss is a loss but you don’t want serious injuries for the sake of the guys and for the sake of the team, whose main goal is to win the PLC and play in the FCS playoffs. Of course 17-22 year old guys are going to want to play these games, that’s the killer mentality of a football player, but HC still has to watch out for their safety, and not roll the dice for a payday.
However exciting and challenging these games are, FBC teams simply have more schollies, among myriad other advantages, which makes these games inherently unfair. You really have to maximize your chances of success and safety going in.
Chesney can turn this around but has little time to do so. Ideally we’d be playing lower tier FBS schools, which BC was a few years ago but not now. I’m excited and concerned.
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Post by ncaam on May 8, 2018 9:09:17 GMT -5
Would you schedule Big 10 in basketball, hockey? They're bigger and stronger than HC in those sports too. No unless we are desperate for money
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 8, 2018 9:10:22 GMT -5
Would you schedule Big 10 in basketball, hockey? They're bigger and stronger than HC in those sports too. That is a legitimate question, but you don't see players being carried off or getting season ending injuries nearly as frequently in those sports. A player from Michigan will have just as good of a chance to get hurt as an HC player. Similarly, when HC plays Georgetown, a player from HC has as good of a chance to get hurt as a player from Georgetown.
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Post by joe on May 8, 2018 9:19:19 GMT -5
Pretty sure that when you are getting physically dominated play after play, and are wearing down, you have a significantly higher risk of injury.
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Post by gks on May 8, 2018 9:21:12 GMT -5
Pujals got knocked out for the season vs. Dartmouth. Sorry but injury concerns are a weak argument. How many players were lost for the season vs. Connecticut last year? Injuries happen in every game and practice.
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Post by ncaam on May 8, 2018 9:22:00 GMT -5
And the games really suck. See us vs Fordham at y s
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Post by ncaam on May 8, 2018 9:23:32 GMT -5
And the games really suck. See us vs Fordham at y s
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Post by hcpride on May 8, 2018 9:29:45 GMT -5
I’ve stated before that these games are fine provided HC has a certain level of strength and skill to at least make it somewhat respectable. Right now we don’t. It’s simply a safety issue, in my mind. A loss is a loss but you don’t want serious injuries for the sake of the guys and for the sake of the team, whose main goal is to win the PLC and play in the FCS playoffs. Of course 17-22 year old guys are going to want to play these games, that’s the killer mentality of a football player, but HC still has to watch out for their safety, and not roll the dice for a payday. However exciting and challenging these games are, FBC teams simply have more schollies, among myriad other advantages, which makes these games inherently unfair. You really have to maximize your chances of success and safety going in. Chesney can turn this around but has little time to do so. Ideally we’d be playing lower tier FBS schools, which BC was a few years ago but not now. I’m excited and concerned. Yes. And those who cite the Appalachian State v Michigan upset as a reason for HC to play a Power Five team have absolutely no idea of the quality/speed/strength of the NFL draft-laden Appalachian State Team (who won their 3rd consecutive FCS crown that year BTW).
FWIW I would MUCH rather see us schedule a CAA team rather than a Power 5 team (including BC, BTW) until we are at the top of FCS.
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Post by Chu Chu on May 8, 2018 9:58:34 GMT -5
These cautious comments are right on. We are early on the change curve right now. I think that it is great to aspire to be the best and play the best, but we don't go from Patriot League bottom feeder to playing Michigan or Penn State because we have a great new coach. Maybe in 5 years? Maybe.
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Post by joutsHC77 on May 8, 2018 10:22:40 GMT -5
I remember a few years ago on a thread posters were wanting to play Navy. I responded Navy will brutalize us with their ground attack and it wouldn't be funny. Have you seen them play ND? They've had recent success against ND with their relentless option. The bottom line is Chesney and the football program have to ramp up big time and quick if we're going to play FBS teams, BC this year, or the results won't be funny. The situation wouldn't be so stark if Gilmore had righted the ship and elevated the program.
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Post by joe on May 8, 2018 10:25:38 GMT -5
I remember a few years ago on a thread posters were wanting to play Navy. I responded Navy will brutalize us with their ground attack and it wouldn't be funny. Have you seen them play ND? They've had recent success against ND with their relentless option. The bottom line is Chesney and the football program have to ramp up big time and quick if we're going to play FBS teams, BC this year, or the results won't be funny. The situation wouldn't be so stark if Gilmore had righted the ship and elevated the program. [ Agree 100%
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Post by 6sader7 on May 8, 2018 12:33:08 GMT -5
I remember a few years ago on a thread posters were wanting to play Navy. I responded Navy will brutalize us with their ground attack and it wouldn't be funny. Have you seen them play ND? They've had recent success against ND with their relentless option. The bottom line is Chesney and the football program have to ramp up big time and quick if we're going to play FBS teams, BC this year, or the results won't be funny. The situation wouldn't be so stark if Gilmore had righted the ship and elevated the program. [ Agree 100% I do not think that Navy would blow us out today - They're a team that typically plays to their competition. I believe we could move the ball well against Navy - Our biggest challenge would be playing assignment football against their Offense, their Oline / Dline really aren't that big or much better than others we face, they're just extremely disciplined.
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Post by joutsHC77 on May 9, 2018 18:01:26 GMT -5
Well I'm hoping like everyone else Coach Chesney can turn this around asap and make us proud. Go Cross!
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 13, 2018 15:11:11 GMT -5
That is a legitimate question, but you don't see players being carried off or getting season ending injuries nearly as frequently in those sports. A player from Michigan will have just as good of a chance to get hurt as an HC player. Similarly, when HC plays Georgetown, a player from HC has as good of a chance to get hurt as a player from Georgetown. If the disparity between those two schools is as great as this comparison suggests, the PL has some bigger problems on its collective hands.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 14, 2018 8:16:03 GMT -5
Just so you guys know, there is absolutely no correlation between playing against a bigger school and increasing risk for injuries. We are just as likely to have any of our guys knocked out against Georgetown as we are against Notre Dame. It's not like a Big Ten school is going to have to resort to illegal cut blocking and horse collar tackling against a Patriot League team. Michigan could probably play as clean a game as can be and maintain a pretty strong advantage. Much greater injury risk against service academy teams due to their blocking schemes.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 14, 2018 8:20:20 GMT -5
I do not think that Navy would blow us out today - They're a team that typically plays to their competition. I believe we could move the ball well against Navy - Our biggest challenge would be playing assignment football against their Offense, their Oline / Dline really aren't that big or much better than others we face, they're just extremely disciplined. A good Patriot League offense can score against Navy. Key is having a defense disciplined enough to play the gaps against the spread option. I think the Randolph-era teams could have played a very competitive game in Annapolis, especially given that back then multiple PL teams played variations of Navy's offense, which we would have been somewhat prepared for. That will be the biggest factor heading into 2019.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 14, 2018 8:24:28 GMT -5
That is a legitimate question, but you don't see players being carried off or getting season ending injuries nearly as frequently in those sports. A player from Michigan will have just as good of a chance to get hurt as an HC player. Similarly, when HC plays Georgetown, a player from HC has as good of a chance to get hurt as a player from Georgetown. Exactly. Having skimmed past this while reading through thread, I wrote basically the same post as you did here below.
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Post by sader1970 on May 14, 2018 8:28:44 GMT -5
Sort of on point, PC members and season ticket holders can now pre-order “preferred seating” (ha-ha😂) tickets for the BC game at $25 a pop plus some service fees. Like the UConn game last year, this is a pig in a poke since you have no idea where the seats will be and not even know the time of the game.
Seats will be allocated according to support for HC, length of season ticket holder and subjective stuff like that. I ordered mine and expect my non-PC membership and vocal opposition to the Crusader change qualifies me for seats under the bleachers. 😊
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