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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 14, 2018 8:33:16 GMT -5
...or maybe you'll really be punished by getting seats on the bc side of the field...
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Post by sader1970 on May 14, 2018 8:54:35 GMT -5
I agree with SOV. Perhaps he has in mind that we lost Don Matheney (300+ lbs. DT) to a Hoya cutback block that ended his career at Holy Cross and then he transferred to Ohio State and played a few games there.
Look, the days of 50 years ago when we played Syracuse and Larry Czonka was bigger than all of our defensive line are over. While we may not have the size of Dom Randolph's average line of 305 lbs., size and speed is not the issue against BC, Navy, Syracuse. Quality of play, abilities and depth will be the biggest factors. We played well against UConn and while the Huskies are no where near the other teams we will be playing, I also believe that Chesney will be bringing in recruits that will up our game too.
These games will not be like our ladies basketball teams playing UConn.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 14, 2018 9:19:42 GMT -5
I agree with SOV. Perhaps he has in mind that we lost Don Matheney (300+ lbs. DT) to a Hoya cutback block that ended his career at Holy Cross and then he transferred to Ohio State and played a few games there. Look, the days of 50 years ago when we played Syracuse and Larry Czonka was bigger than all of our defensive line are over. While we may not have the size of Dom Randolph's average line of 305 lbs., size and speed is not the issue against BC, Navy, Syracuse. Quality of play, abilities and depth will be the biggest factors. We played well against UConn and while the Huskies are no where near the other teams we will be playing, I also believe that Chesney will be bringing in recruits that will up our game too. These games will not be like our ladies basketball teams playing UConn. Don's injury happened his sophomore year in our 55-0 blowout of Georgetown at home. He actually returned and played for us his junior year and was in the rotation at nose tackle. He chose to transfer following that campaign due to not receiving the playing time he felt he deserved. Our 3-4 scheme at the time was more conducive to more athletic D-Lineman and Don was much more of a traditional nose.
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Post by sader1970 on May 14, 2018 9:26:17 GMT -5
Yes, all that is correct. I knew the Mattheney family well. But one of the reasons Don's playing time was limited was his injury.
The larger point is that a football injury can happen for multiple reasons, some without any contact at all, and we should not fear playing the D-IA teams because players might get hurt.
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Post by rickii on May 14, 2018 12:05:00 GMT -5
Sort of on point, PC members and season ticket holders can now pre-order “preferred seating” (ha-ha😂) tickets for the BC game at $25 a pop plus some service fees. Like the UConn game last year, this is a pig in a poke since you have no idea where the seats will be and not even know the time of the game. Seats will be allocated according to support for HC, length of season ticket holder and subjective stuff like that. I ordered mine and expect my non-PC membership and vocal opposition to the Crusader change qualifies me for seats under the bleachers. 😊 First, $25 for a ticket to a P5 conference game is not expensive.
Second, at Alumni Stadium the initial block of visitor seats is always the lower field level corner beneath BC's wall of fame....see Section 0
www.rateyourseats.com/sections/alumni-stadium-ncaaf/O
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Post by sader1970 on May 14, 2018 12:54:30 GMT -5
Certainly much less than I was expecting but bet the parking will be expensive
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Post by Tom on May 14, 2018 14:49:18 GMT -5
Certainly much less than I was expecting but bet the parking will be expensive Parking will be non existant Park at law school and shuttle bus over. I do not know what/if they charge for football parking at the law school. The green line has a BC stop fi you want public transit, although it is at the opposite end of the campus
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Post by hcpride on May 14, 2018 15:14:15 GMT -5
I’m wondering how big the crowd will be. In the Flutie era I was part of a 25k-ish crowd at BC v HC (less than a sellout but pretty full for two very successful teams) but I know attendance is down from those days. 15k-17k? More? How does that sound?
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Post by 6sader7 on May 14, 2018 15:27:40 GMT -5
Given it's the first re-match in ~30 years I would say there will be a larger crowd than most would expect - I'd guess ~25,000
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 14, 2018 16:15:41 GMT -5
Attendance at the last BC game with an FCS opponent, Wagner, was 22,728 on 9/24/16. Sunny day.
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Post by rgs318 on May 14, 2018 16:33:58 GMT -5
Given the once powerful rivalry, we could see more HC Fans at this one than BC supporters. I would have no problem with that.
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Post by hcpride on May 14, 2018 17:14:47 GMT -5
Given the once powerful rivalry, we could see more HC Fans at this one than BC supporters. I would have no problem with that. I have to agree. BC fans may not be too interested at what they might view as a thoroughly one-sided FCS matchup a week after what will probably be a blowout of UMass. September 2015 (Sunny 76 degrees) v FCS Maine on Chesnut Hill the gate was 29.6K .
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 14, 2018 18:21:27 GMT -5
Given the once powerful rivalry, we could see more HC Fans at this one than BC supporters. I would have no problem with that. I have to agree. BC fans may not be too interested at what they might view as a thoroughly one-sided FCS matchup a week after what will probably be a blowout of UMass. September 2015 (Sunny 76 degrees) v FCS Maine on Chesnut Hill the gate was 29.6K . I think you're right about many BC fans not being interested a week following the UMass game. Not to mention they have a pretty exciting home slate from a fan's perspective. In conference, they host Louisville, Miami, Clemson and Syracuse. With the HC interest level surrounding the game, my guess is we break 30,000 in attendance. I say 31,600.
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Post by hcpride on May 15, 2018 6:12:50 GMT -5
Attendance at the last BC game with an FCS opponent, Wagner, was 22,728 on 9/24/16. Sunny day. Thanks for the data.
Maine lost 24-3, Attendance 29,600, 9/5/2015 (Great weather) Wagner lost 42-10, Attendance 22,728, 9/24/16 (Great weather) (Wagner plays Syracuse this year FWIW)
Now I am thinking we should get attendance somewhere between those two numbers and that would be great. If the score is between those two other FCS scores that'll be acceptable IMHO (BC is stronger now than '15 and '16 so a Wagner-type score is more likely)
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Post by sader1970 on May 15, 2018 7:44:36 GMT -5
Tom:
"Parking will be non existant
Park at law school and shuttle bus over. I do not know what/if they charge for football parking at the law school. The green line has a BC stop fi you want public transit, although it is at the opposite end of the campus"
Tom, I wasn't suggesting that parking would be right at the stadium. And you just gave an example of where parking is at. So, are you suggesting parking might be free but you have to take a shuttle? If so, I am good with that but will be shocked, shocked, if the parking at the law school is not without charge.
I may try to tap my Jesuit friends at BC to see if I can park at their place gratis.
FWIW, I will be greatly disappointed if attendance is not 30,000+ regardless of the weather and regardless of how BC does against UMass and us against Colgate previously. I suspect there are enough older BC alums, like HC alums, that are looking forward to this game. We/they are not all dead! 😊
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Post by nhteamer on May 15, 2018 8:30:01 GMT -5
I hate BC
(you're right; no reason for this post. I just had to.)
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Post by purplenurple on May 15, 2018 9:44:58 GMT -5
Tom: "Parking will be non existant Park at law school and shuttle bus over. I do not know what/if they charge for football parking at the law school. The green line has a BC stop fi you want public transit, although it is at the opposite end of the campus" Tom, I wasn't suggesting that parking would be right at the stadium. And you just gave an example of where parking is at. So, are you suggesting parking might be free but you have to take a shuttle? If so, I am good with that but will be shocked, shocked, if the parking at the law school is not without charge. I may try to tap my Jesuit friends at BC to see if I can park at their place gratis. FWIW, I will be greatly disappointed if attendance is not 30,000+ regardless of the weather and regardless of how BC does against UMass and us against Colgate previously. I suspect there are enough older BC alums, like HC alums, that are looking forward to this game. We/they are not all dead! 😊 The Reservoir stop on the D branch of the Green Line is about a 15-20 minute walk to Alumni from Cleveland Circle, so you could park at Riverside or Woodland and take the T to Reservoir and walk.
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Post by Tom on May 15, 2018 10:24:37 GMT -5
Tom: "Parking will be non existant Park at law school and shuttle bus over. I do not know what/if they charge for football parking at the law school. The green line has a BC stop fi you want public transit, although it is at the opposite end of the campus" Tom, I wasn't suggesting that parking would be right at the stadium. And you just gave an example of where parking is at. So, are you suggesting parking might be free but you have to take a shuttle? If so, I am good with that but will be shocked, shocked, if the parking at the law school is not without charge. I may try to tap my Jesuit friends at BC to see if I can park at their place gratis. FWIW, I will be greatly disappointed if attendance is not 30,000+ regardless of the weather and regardless of how BC does against UMass and us against Colgate previously. I suspect there are enough older BC alums, like HC alums, that are looking forward to this game. We/they are not all dead! 😊 To clarify, there is no public parking on campus - not near the stadium not far from the stadium. Only people who pay a huge fee get to park on campus - and even they might be on the far side of campus from the stadium. Kind of like the new fee to park on the baseball field for HC games only multiply the fee by fifty The law school is 2-3 miles away from the campus towards the center of Newton. I have never parked at the law school so I have no clue what the fee structure is out there
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Post by ncaam on May 15, 2018 10:40:28 GMT -5
Smallish crowd...more parking?
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Post by Ray on May 15, 2018 11:15:14 GMT -5
The Reservoir stop on the D branch of the Green Line is about a 15-20 minute walk to Alumni from Cleveland Circle, so you could park at Riverside or Woodland and take the T to Reservoir and walk.
I've done this before. It's by far the best option.
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Post by bringbackcaro on May 15, 2018 14:29:17 GMT -5
Smallish crowd...more parking? I fear the same, ncaam. Unlike the Fordham game at Yankee Stadium, which was an "event" that was publicized to get on people's calendars early and also extremely well attended by young alumni, there has been virtually no marketing for the BC game at this point and it is not really on the radar of young alumni. We are also at a disadvantage in that BC is also hosting Clemson, Miami, and Louisville next year, so alumni who graduated in the last 25 years who want to go back for a game this year would be more likely to pick one of those weekends (or Syracuse or Temple). I was laughed at by a couple BC alums from this population when I asked if they were going to the HC game (after I had to explain to them that there was actually a game).
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Post by crusader12 on May 15, 2018 14:43:32 GMT -5
I heard BC tailgating staff is even worse than RSIG. BTW have we fired them yet?
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Post by hcpride on May 15, 2018 16:10:07 GMT -5
Smallish crowd...more parking? I fear the same, ncaam. Unlike the Fordham game at Yankee Stadium, which was an "event" that was publicized to get on people's calendars early and also extremely well attended by young alumni, there has been virtually no marketing for the BC game at this point and it is not really on the radar of young alumni. We are also at a disadvantage in that BC is also hosting Clemson, Miami, and Louisville next year, so alumni who graduated in the last 25 years who want to go back for a game this year would be more likely to pick one of those weekends (or Syracuse or Temple). I was laughed at by a couple BC alums from this population when I asked if they were going to the HC game (after I had to explain to them that there was actually a game). I'm thinking most of the season ticket folks and many BC students show up if the weather is good plus a few curious HC fans. I don't think ACC BC fans or those who hold out for games that might be competitive/exciting will bother. This may be a contrarian view with a couple of posters but the idea of bigger, much faster, and much stronger defensive players in passing situations does give me concern for our quarterback (s). I don't have that concern with any other of our position players.
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Post by sader1970 on May 15, 2018 16:47:15 GMT -5
Some thought we would be blown out by UConn. I did not because though they are D-IA, they are a weak team. I did not expect a win but a very close game and that's what happened. Some of my classmates were ticked and thought we should have beaten them.
As for BC, I also don't expect a win. I do expect a competitive game. Through some reliable sources, I have heard that they have had some key player injuries and they may not be back in time for our game. Yes, we could get blown out, especially if they are at full strength. That would not surprise most folks.
Would anyone think a 7-10 point loss would be a "moral victory?"
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Post by Non Alum Dave on May 15, 2018 17:41:40 GMT -5
Aren't early results secondary to the bigger picture at this point? I could see a scenario where things look really rough early on, but by November you see a program that is moving forward, with some momentum.
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