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Post by hchoops on May 18, 2018 10:08:28 GMT -5
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Post by rickii on May 18, 2018 11:30:39 GMT -5
Would be curious if there was an early 'Chesney Effect'.
Anyone have last year's breakdown ?
How should the rank of Basketball on this be interpreted....growing indifference ?
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Post by rgs318 on May 18, 2018 11:31:12 GMT -5
Interesting numbers. I am often at a loss in figuring out why the numbers are where they are.
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Post by breezy on May 18, 2018 12:13:30 GMT -5
Part of the answer is the size of the rosters. Football has approximately 90 players and M/W Lacrosse combined has approximately 80 players. The total for M/W basketball is around 30 players. Many donations come from family members and friends of the players.
There are certainly other factors as well.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 18, 2018 15:09:04 GMT -5
There is probably a thread from the February 2017 giving day, but I can't readily find it. ________________
Here is total CAF giving by sport in 2017 (dollars in thousands)
football $396 CAF $314 m/w lacrosse $269 m/w hockey $264 m/w crew $183 baseball $119 m/w soccer $119 m/w basketball $72 m/w swimming and diving $60 m/w track and field $60 m/w golf $29 m/w tennis $29 volleyball $27 softball $25 field hockey $10 cheerleading $2 total $2.100K
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 18, 2018 15:36:16 GMT -5
2917 and 2018 Giving Day amounts compared Sport 2018 / 2017 -- Sports ranked by 2017 amount
M/W Lacrosse 33,401 / 19,761 Football 28,724 / 18,309 M/W Swimming & Diving 11,232 / 13,800 M/W Crew 21659 / 12,756 M/W Track & Field 19,308 / 12,119 M/W Soccer 14,675 / 12,042 Baseball 14,303 / 11,427 M/W Basketball 9,392 / 10,789 Softball 5,315 / 6,694 M/W Ice Hockey 10,091 / 5,470 Field Hockey 3,953 / 3,362 M/W Golf 4,733 / 2,762 M/W Tennis 3,774 / 2,719 Volleyball 16,789 / 2,130
Don't have 2017 values for CAF. In 2018, CAF was $40,084 In 2018, cheerleading was $515, In 2017 donors from every state but Hawaii.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 19, 2018 7:19:49 GMT -5
Several observations on the comparative results.
* All the sports with increased giving saw the amount increase by 10 percent or more.
* Explaining volleyball's eight-fold increase probably requires, at a minimum, the donor count.
* Of the three sports with decreases,
>>> M/W swimming probably overachieved in 2017, and the long-time coach had retired. >>> Softball. No explanation. >>> M/W basketball. If this board is a valid indicator/predictor, the one sport where giving was affected by the nickname/mascot controversy. However, the megaphone of Crossports didn't carry very far; in fact, it seems not to have been heard beyond this board.
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Post by Tom on May 19, 2018 7:38:33 GMT -5
>>> M/W basketball. If this board is a valid indicator/predictor, the one sport where giving was affected by the nickname/mascot controversy. However, the megaphone of Crossports didn't carry very far; in fact, it seems not to have been heard beyond this board. My guess is that for the non-revenue sports, the only people donating are former participants or those associated with former participants. Any generic fan or non-athlete alum that donates to the Crusader Athletic Fund will most likely give to a so-called revenue sport or not direct their gift at all. It's those generic givers that are more likely to be swayed by other influences. The kid that played tennis isn't going to hold the fact that the school is getting rid of knight imagery against his old team as much as Joe Schmo who shows up at Hart
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Post by breezy on May 19, 2018 9:26:46 GMT -5
2917 and 2018 Giving Day amounts comparedSport 2018 / 2017 -- Sports ranked by 2017 amountM/W Lacrosse 33,401 / 19,761 Football 28,724 / 18,309 M/W Swimming & Diving 11,232 / 13,800 M/W Crew 21659 / 12,756 M/W Track & Field 19,308 / 12,119 M/W Soccer 14,675 / 12,042 Baseball 14,303 / 11,427 M/W Basketball 9,392 / 10,789 Softball 5,315 / 6,694 M/W Ice Hockey 10,091 / 5,470 Field Hockey 3,953 / 3,362 M/W Golf 4,733 / 2,762 M/W Tennis 3,774 / 2,719 Volleyball 16,789 / 2,130 Don't have 2017 values for CAF. In 2018, CAF was $40,084 In 2018, cheerleading was $515, In 2017 donors from every state but Hawaii. I looked at the Spring 2017 issue of Crusader Nation. Numbers are slightly different (I'm assuming numbers were updated at the time the magazine was published as opposed to initial reports). The Fund for Athletics Excellence in 2017 was $42,155.88 from 493 gifts received. (Cheerleading was $830 from 20 gifts.) It may be presumptuous on my part, but I consider the Fund for Athletics Excellence in essence to be the Athletic Director's "slush fund" to distribute as needed to meet unexpected contingencies or special opportunities. I suspect individual coaches can go to the AD and say "I can do this but I need a little extra money in the budget to get it done" and the AD can provide the funds if it seems prudent to do so.
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Post by breezy on May 19, 2018 9:31:22 GMT -5
.... * Explaining volleyball's eight-fold increase probably requires, at a minimum, the donor count. Volleyball -- 80 donors in 2018; 41 donors in 2017.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 19, 2018 11:33:44 GMT -5
Thanks Breezy.
A knowledgeable CAF staffer once.explained to me that ADNP uses some of the monies in the so-titled 'slush fund' to bump up the amounts received in the single gender sports; e.g., if donor X gave $500 to football, and only to football, then the AD, using the 'slush fund' will bump up the amounts distributed to the three exclusively women's sports to help offset the $500 for Title IX purposes.
I didn't get the impression that it was 1:1, but more like that before football received monies from the 'slush fund', these three women's sports were first in line --unless of course, there was little/no disparity between amounts for football/baseball and those for field hockey/softball/volleyball. .
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 19, 2018 13:30:27 GMT -5
All revenue is general revenue—unless someone makes a huge donation to an underfunded sport in this case
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