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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 28, 2018 8:58:48 GMT -5
The latest issue of "Being More" (A Chronicle of Holy Cross Philanthropy) provides some details on the plan for "replacing the field house with an upgraded facility for the entirety of the community". The piece states that "we have decided the best approach is to level the old hangar and build a new building on the field house site".
"The recreation and well ness center will include 50,000 square feet of space.... 1/10th mile running track... 1,330 square feet for new Public Safety offices....2 basketball and multi-sport courts".
I know we've talked about this facility on a number of threads but I could not find one in my first run through the board so I started this new thread
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Post by hchoops on May 28, 2018 9:05:10 GMT -5
Are 2 basketball courts enough ? Are there still intramural sports ?
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Post by rgs318 on May 28, 2018 9:14:20 GMT -5
At one time we had 5 full basketball courts in the field house, but we often lost two or more to allow spring teams to practice indoors (chiefly lax). There was a curtain that separated the two areas. It was old and had several large gaps that allowed lax balls to fly through intramural games - some even reading the lobby and bouncing into sports offices. It was an adventure. I hope intramural basketball continues, and that two courts are enough.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 28, 2018 16:30:12 GMT -5
Using Google maps, the existing field house has a basic footprint of about 25,000 square feet, roughly 250 feet by 100 feet. This doesn't count offices at the west end, or the various additions tacked on to north and south sides.
A college basketball court (inside the lines) is 4750 square feet. Thus one could squeeze in five courts in the old field house. Though I suspect that perhaps the courts were regulation high school length courts (4200 sq ft), rather than college/pro length.
With a new facility that is twice the size of the old, and which goes from five courts to two: --RIDICULOUS! Which leads me to believe there is a typo. Perhaps, it is two dedicated hoops courts and two multi-purpose courts (volleyball, tennis, hoops). That would be more like it.
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Post by rgs318 on May 28, 2018 16:34:19 GMT -5
That sounds more like it, pak. The basketball courts would be dedicated and the others could at times be used for hoops as well...I hope. They were more like high school length courts (almost wall to wall) than the larger college/pro size.
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Post by hc6774 on May 29, 2018 6:54:21 GMT -5
From the 3 renderings in the chronicle the NFH would be 3 levels. It is near the site of the OFH but set well back from College St with a 2 lane “approach” to Hogan running along downhill/south side of the building. "...a vibrant gateway to campus for prospective students and the whole campus community."
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Post by trimster on May 29, 2018 7:02:01 GMT -5
An interesting factoid about the 5 courts is I don't think any of the 10 rims we're alike. Some were tilted in one direction or the other, some were more forgiving than others, etc.
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Post by hchoops on May 29, 2018 7:07:43 GMT -5
Did you have a tough time shooting there ?
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Post by rgs318 on May 29, 2018 7:19:02 GMT -5
I got to see the rims up close and personal, but all I remember is how often I had to haul out the ladder to change the torn nets.
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Post by trimster on May 29, 2018 7:55:52 GMT -5
I seem to remember the hoops on the end courts as the best to shoot at, the middle 3, not so much.
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Post by sader1970 on May 29, 2018 8:14:04 GMT -5
And here I was assuming all the while that you were just "tickling the twines."
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Post by hchoops on May 29, 2018 8:31:04 GMT -5
And here I was assuming all the while that you were just "tickling the twines." Or, to again quote the great Les Keiter, “creasing the cords”.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 29, 2018 8:33:20 GMT -5
crossports.freeforums.net/thread/2420/guess^^^ This is the other thread on the new field house. It includes photos of the new student rec centers at Univ of Colorado Boulder (glass wall) and Colorado State (elevated jogging track). Court widths:basketball 50 feet volleyball 29 feet 6 inches tennis 36 feet for doubles The original Spring 2014, the purple (east) wall is by the volleyball court. I think I count four courts. Perhaps the fifth was converted to the volleyball court. The volleyball court looks to have been set up east-west . ^^^^ This was the placeholder design by Sasaki (who did the design for Luth). It is of interest only because this design preserved the original building and basic footprint. Crudely comparing the two images, the old field house would extend about to the left side of the entrance doors of the new field house.
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Post by rgs318 on May 29, 2018 8:53:52 GMT -5
The five courts were there before the floor was redone and the lined track added.
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Post by lou on May 29, 2018 9:05:40 GMT -5
Why do I remember taking final exams in the FH more than I remember playing basketball ??
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Post by purplenurple on May 29, 2018 9:28:28 GMT -5
I was playing nine holes at the end of the day on Friday at George Wright in Hyde Park, MA and the guy behind us asked if he could join up with us as there was limited daylight. Turns out he is the architect designing the rec center at HC. He said he recently designed the rec center at Middlebury and had formerly been at Sasaki.
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Post by timholycross on May 29, 2018 9:31:22 GMT -5
The five courts were there before the floor was redone and the lined track added. ...and there was at least one (maybe two; but I think just one) full-sized court dab smack in the middle, running perpendicular to the five courts. That's what was used for varsity basketball practice until the Hart Center opened. The freshman team practiced on one of the five courts, IIRC...unless they happened to be working out when the varsity wasn't around.
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Post by trimster on May 29, 2018 10:24:59 GMT -5
I can confirm the one, I assume regulation college-sized court, in the middle of the field house. That one had glass backboards. I remember seeing Ed Siudut practicing his corner jump shot from about 5 feet out of bounds, on that one.
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Post by trimster on May 29, 2018 10:25:31 GMT -5
I can confirm the one, I assume regulation college-sized court, in the middle of the field house. That one had glass backboards. I remember seeing Ed Siudut practicing his corner jump shot from about 5 feet out of bounds, on that one.
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Post by hchoops on May 29, 2018 10:33:49 GMT -5
The five courts were there before the floor was redone and the lined track added. ...and there was at least one (maybe two; but I think just one) full-sized court dab smack in the middle, running perpendicular to the five courts. That's what was used for varsity basketball practice until the Hart Center opened. The freshman team practiced on one of the five courts, IIRC...unless they happened to be working out when the varsity wasn't around. That is correct. 2 distinct memories 1– Joe Kelly stealing the ball from me over and over when we scrimmaged the varsity 2- watching the Dave Bing (and boeheim) Syracuse backcourt scrimmage the Wendelken, Kelly HC team in ‘63. Bing was dominant.
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Post by rgs318 on May 29, 2018 10:49:49 GMT -5
I remember students were allowed to watch the first scrimmage HC had under Coach Donohue at the field house. The rule was you needed a ticket to get in (they could be obtained for free up until the day of the scrimmage). Students had to sit in the balcony (over the old offices). It was packed and we were cautioned not to cheer. Ah, those were the days.
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Post by trimster on May 29, 2018 10:51:56 GMT -5
Ron Texeira spending hours pumping iron in the little weight room on the side of the building facing downtown Worcester.
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Post by sader1970 on May 29, 2018 12:37:15 GMT -5
And as I have posted years ago, I remember HC scrimmaging Army under Bobby Knight in the fieldhouse which was supposed to be under game conditions with refs there but that didn’t stop him from screaming at his team and refs to stop and he would run out and physically move his players to where they should have been on the court. Our players and the refs were non-plussed while the Army players looked embarrassed about their coach.
Second memory was of Donahue having our starting 5 practice bringing the ball up against 7 of our subs in prep for the vaunted UCLA full court press.
Third, and most important was Father Hart showing me, my Dad (‘42) and my older brother the “new” fieldhouse when I couldn’t have been more than 5 years old. Not sure why that stuck with me along with being impressed with Wheeler. My Dad was one of the first residents of Wheeler and did a great India ink drawing while residing there. Fr. Hart was the priest who officiated at my parents’ wedding and sent them an anniversary postcard every year until he died in blue ink handwritten with the anniversary year in red ink.
R.I.P., Fr. Hart
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Post by hchoops on May 29, 2018 13:29:08 GMT -5
Jack d and Bobby K were friends through their common mentor, Joe Lapchick of St John’s. Knight used to lecture at Jack’s camp in Saugerties, NY. One time Knight ran his (in)famous diving drill, which had 2 campers dive for a rolling ball. The drill went on for quite a while until one camper slid across the asphalt and his leg was pouring blood. At that point Knight began loudly cheering to congratulate that camper. The drill ended.
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Post by hchoops on May 29, 2018 14:40:57 GMT -5
Why do I remember taking final exams in the FH more than I remember playing basketball ?? Maybe Because you did not spend hour upon hour trying put that big ball into that small(seemingly) hoop
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