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Post by hchoops on Jun 8, 2018 13:40:06 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Jun 9, 2018 13:28:06 GMT -5
What exactly would be the point of a guy like Carter playing 15-20 games against weak competition? Harvard could have a great team one of these years but they are still in the Ivy League.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 9, 2018 14:16:25 GMT -5
What exactly would be the point of a guy like Carter playing 15-20 games against weak competition? Harvard could have a great team one of these years but they are still in the Ivy League. Nothing if he did not eventually get his degree. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jun 9, 2018 14:53:23 GMT -5
I can't wait until the NBA gets rid of the age limit.
One-and-done out of Harvard -- makes no sense.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 10, 2018 9:53:14 GMT -5
One and done is just silly. Does anyone believe that will somehow encourage athletes to get a degree? I doubt it. I believe they should get the pros out of college sports and let the scholar-athletes have their day.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jun 10, 2018 15:29:18 GMT -5
One and done is just silly. Does anyone believe that will somehow encourage athletes to get a degree? I doubt it. I believe they should get the pros out of college sports and let the scholar-athletes have their day. One and done was a policy put in place by the NBA to reduce the supply of labor to protect existing union jobs, as well as to simplify the zero-cost farm system (scouting and evaluating easier at college level than HS) and to provide a marketing platform for incoming rookies. I'm a believer that the NFL should get rid of the age limit as well. Typical pro football careers are unbelievably short, IMO the league would get more mileage out of marketing individual players if the top talent were able to skip college and go straight into training camp. |
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Post by possum on Jun 10, 2018 17:11:01 GMT -5
Unlike basketball there are few if any football players physically ready to compete in the NFL right out of high school.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 10, 2018 17:20:27 GMT -5
I think the injuries to young (smaller) players who came out early to play in the NFL could be devastating. I was thinking of hoops. I haven't heard of any "one and done" college football players.
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Post by somedaycamesuddenly on Jun 10, 2018 18:54:10 GMT -5
There aren't one and one players in the NFL because of NFL rules: PLAYER ELIGIBILITY "To be eligible for the draft, players must have been out of high school for at least three years and must have used up their college eligibility before the start of the next college football season. Underclassmen and players who have graduated before using all their college eligibility may request the league’s approval to enter the draft early." operations.nfl.com/the-players/the-nfl-draft/the-rules-of-the-draft/Increasingly, players that complete three years of school then submit their name for the draft are being seen as more valuable than players that complete four seasons and degrees, especially at positions where you have a shorter NFL shelf-life. In my view, top running backs would probably be the biggest beneficiary to a two and done or one and done NFL rule due to their peaks often occurring early in their NFL career. |
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Post by hcpride on Jun 10, 2018 20:46:54 GMT -5
There aren't one and one players in the NFL because of NFL rules: Increasingly, players that complete three years of school then submit their name for the draft are being seen as more valuable than players that complete four seasons and degrees, especially at positions where you have a shorter NFL shelf-life. In my view, top running backs would probably be the biggest beneficiary to a two and done or one and done NFL rule due to their peaks often occurring early in their NFL career. I agree that some of those super Frosh/Soph running backs at the top college football programs are ready and, considering the short pro careers, might be best served by departing. Fournette (LSU) stood out as one of those guys - he could/should have left after two. Saquon Barkley is another. IMHO their third years might have been better spent earning pro money. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jun 10, 2018 22:01:37 GMT -5
Unlike basketball there are few if any football players physically ready to compete in the NFL right out of high school. Directly out of high school, you would likely only have a handful of guys ready for the NFL, primarily at positions like WR, RB and DB. You might even have the top QBs get drafted high out of HS as teams would stash them on the bench as third-stringers for 2-3 years until they were ready.
However, there are MANY college football players who are physically ready for pro ball after one or two years of college.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jun 10, 2018 22:03:50 GMT -5
I think the injuries to young (smaller) players who came out early to play in the NFL could be devastating. I was thinking of hoops. I haven't heard of any "one and done" college football players. One-and-done doesn't exist in football b/c of the rule that our favorite BU fan pointed out. Much be 3 years removed from HS to be draft-eligible. So either after JR or (R) SO season.
There are just as many devastating injuries in college, I'm sure a career ending injury feels slightly better when some of the money is already in the bank.
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Post by hc87 on Jun 12, 2018 10:50:32 GMT -5
Duke and other schools should be embarrassed by allowing one and done....I can't imagine it being allowed to happen at Harvard
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Post by Tom on Jun 12, 2018 11:02:57 GMT -5
Duke and other schools should be embarrassed by allowing one and done....I can't imagine it being allowed to happen at Harvard I can't imagine a high school kid looking to showcase himself to be a one and done lottery pick would go to the Ivy league. I can imagine a kid doing that in the ACC |
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Post by hchoops on Jun 12, 2018 15:21:40 GMT -5
It does not really matter where the top players go.
Michael Porter only played 3 games as a frosh at Missouri due to injury. He is forecasted to be drafted in the top 7 next week.
All the top players are thoroughly scouted by the NBA while in HS.
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