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Post by hchoops on Sept 30, 2018 11:27:24 GMT -5
Summer highlights Enjoy 3s off the catch, off the bounce, going right as well as left and I beleve most of the assists shown were from cousin Drew, #2
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Post by hchoops on Sept 30, 2018 11:34:56 GMT -5
Adam F.weighs in
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Post by hchoops on Sept 30, 2018 11:36:42 GMT -5
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 30, 2018 13:36:46 GMT -5
I believe getting this level of recruits is in direct correlation to the Luth. It is simply that impressive of a facility.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 30, 2018 14:29:43 GMT -5
It surely doesn't hurt!
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 30, 2018 16:14:14 GMT -5
I believe getting this level of recruits is in direct correlation to the Luth. It is simply that impressive of a facility. I'll bet that is a factor in all sports. I believe some on the board suggested it will have minimal effect
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Post by hchoops on Sept 30, 2018 16:23:17 GMT -5
It is something that is difficult to prove
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Sept 30, 2018 17:08:04 GMT -5
I believe facilities was mentioned by at least one of the "big 6" soph group (maybe Faw?) as being a factor. Mr. Wade made reference to it as well. Yesterday I heard a few "oohs and aahs" from one group that was having a look at the indoor field.
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Post by lou on Sept 30, 2018 18:36:03 GMT -5
We've gotten some pretty nice recruits since the Luth opened
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Post by bringbackcaro on Oct 1, 2018 8:21:34 GMT -5
I believe getting this level of recruits is in direct correlation to the Luth. It is simply that impressive of a facility. I'll bet that is a factor in all sports. I believe some on the board suggested it will have minimal effect The competition for these recruits is at best on par with where it was during RW's final year, and below the two years before that (Brown/Evans, Cavataio, Beinert/Jones).
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 1, 2018 8:35:53 GMT -5
I'll bet that is a factor in all sports. I believe some on the board suggested it will have minimal effect The competition for these recruits is at best on par with where it was during RW's final year, and below the two years before that (Brown/Evans, Cavataio, Beinert/Jones). It's also below Potter/Vicens in the mid 1970's, but that is not the point. The point is whether the Luth helps us today. Are we better with the Luth today with Coach Carmody and staff than we would be today with Coach Carmody and staff and no Luth? Are we better off today with the Luth and Coach Bob Chesney and staff, not in comparison to the tenures of Dr Eddie Anderson or Eddie The Brain Doherty or Mark Duffner , but versus today with Coach Chesney and staff and no Luth.
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Post by trimster on Oct 1, 2018 9:27:49 GMT -5
The competition for these recruits is at best on par with where it was during RW's final year, and below the two years before that (Brown/Evans, Cavataio, Beinert/Jones). It's also below Potter/Vicens in the mid 1970's, but that is not the point. The point is whether the Luth helps us today. Are we better with the Luth today with Coach Carmody and staff than we would be today with Coach Carmody and staff and no Luth? Are we better off today with the Luth and Coach Bob Chesney and staff, not in comparison to the tenures of Dr Eddie Anderson or Eddie The Brain Doherty or Mark Duffner , but versus today with Coach Chesney and staff and no Luth. Whether or not the Luth is the game changer some say it is, is hard to say but I don't think there is any doubt it helps in recruiting. HC has an impressive package of academics and facilities to offer recruits. Now if we could begin to win more games, that would be nice.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Oct 1, 2018 10:16:02 GMT -5
The competition for these recruits is at best on par with where it was during RW's final year, and below the two years before that (Brown/Evans, Cavataio, Beinert/Jones). It's also below Potter/Vicens in the mid 1970's, but that is not the point. The point is whether the Luth helps us today. Are we better with the Luth today with Coach Carmody and staff than we would be today with Coach Carmody and staff and no Luth? Are we better off today with the Luth and Coach Bob Chesney and staff, not in comparison to the tenures of Dr Eddie Anderson or Eddie The Brain Doherty or Mark Duffner , but versus today with Coach Chesney and staff and no Luth. Coach Carmody and staff with Luth vs Coach Carmody and staff with no Luth is an obvious question. The better question would be would be if we are better off having a head coach who was a better recruiter, developer of talent, roster manager, team leader etc. without the Luth or with Carmody + Luth? Or how much recruiting uplift exists for the basketball team because of the weight room and practice gym compared to how much we would have gotten if we invested more significantly in basketball?
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Post by WorcesterGray on Oct 1, 2018 10:42:44 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 1, 2018 17:28:01 GMT -5
BBC—- what W-L record would the team have to post this season for you to say “Carmody may not be so bad after all”? Would 20 wins do it, 25?
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Post by DiMarz on Oct 1, 2018 18:56:01 GMT -5
Great signing! Looks like HC Hoops is trending up!!!!
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Post by bringbackcaro on Oct 1, 2018 19:05:46 GMT -5
BBC—- what W-L record would the team have to post this season for you to say “Carmody may not be so bad after all”? Would 20 wins do it, 25? 20 WINS BABY!!! But more seriously, I don’t have a W-L record in mind, but getting through the year without suspensions/expulsions would be a start. And secondly, I would love to see some semblance of a style that is going to emphasize defense and toughness, impose some type of will on the opponent, and actually work against more talented teams, rather than the simple “just try and make more 3’s than the other team” approach. If 20 wins in year 4 after a total lack of any semblance of roster management/development and in a PL that has taken a rather significant step back (with Colgate as the preseason favorite??) is simply the bar, that’s just not what would fly with me.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 1, 2018 19:42:35 GMT -5
Cousin Drew’s response
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 1, 2018 20:28:18 GMT -5
BBC—- what W-L record would the team have to post this season for you to say “Carmody may not be so bad after all”? Would 20 wins do it, 25? 20 WINS BABY!!! But more seriously, I don’t have a W-L record in mind, but getting through the year without suspensions/expulsions would be a start. And secondly, I would love to see some semblance of a style that is going to emphasize defense and toughness, impose some type of will on the opponent, and actually work against more talented teams, rather than the simple “just try and make more 3’s than the other team” approach. If 20 wins in year 4 after a total lack of any semblance of roster management/development and in a PL that has taken a rather significant step back (with Colgate as the preseason favorite??) is simply the bar, that’s just not what would fly with me. Okay---you won't commit to a number of wins. Very disappointing. So if HC wins, say, 24 games you can still say "well I don't like the defense and player X did not move forward as a sophomore, so Carmody is still a lousy coach."
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Post by bringbackcaro on Oct 1, 2018 21:14:07 GMT -5
20 WINS BABY!!! But more seriously, I don’t have a W-L record in mind, but getting through the year without suspensions/expulsions would be a start. And secondly, I would love to see some semblance of a style that is going to emphasize defense and toughness, impose some type of will on the opponent, and actually work against more talented teams, rather than the simple “just try and make more 3’s than the other team” approach. If 20 wins in year 4 after a total lack of any semblance of roster management/development and in a PL that has taken a rather significant step back (with Colgate as the preseason favorite??) is simply the bar, that’s just not what would fly with me. Okay---you won't commit to a number of wins. Very disappointing. So if HC wins, say, 24 games you can still say "well I don't like the defense and player X did not move forward as a sophomore, so Carmody is still a lousy coach." As we witnessed with the whole “20 wins” thing with Milan Brown, creating an arbitrary win total as a hurdle for whether someone is a good coach and/or doing a good job is not exactly the best practice. It’s year 4, Carmody isn’t getting any younger, and he has now had the chance to completely turn over the roster (save for our best player - thank you, MB), so expectations should be very high for this season and deciding whether or not we should continue with the “Carmody Era.”
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Post by dadominate on Oct 2, 2018 5:55:40 GMT -5
Okay---you won't commit to a number of wins. Very disappointing. So if HC wins, say, 24 games you can still say "well I don't like the defense and player X did not move forward as a sophomore, so Carmody is still a lousy coach." As we witnessed with the whole “20 wins” thing with Milan Brown, creating an arbitrary win total as a hurdle for whether someone is a good coach and/or doing a good job is not exactly the best practice. It’s year 4, Carmody isn’t getting any younger, and he has now had the chance to completely turn over the roster (save for our best player - thank you, MB), so expectations should be very high for this season and deciding whether or not we should continue with the “Carmody Era.” agree with you about the win threshold being relatively meaningless, ala the “20 WINS BABY!” idiocy that was the result of a weak schedule, playing in a bottom-rung postseason tournament, and the fcmb hype machine. while 24 wins would almost certainly mean a good season, to me it would mean little if we flame out in the pl tournament. but this is a signing announcement thread. you’ll have plenty of other opportunities to post your seemingly unwavering position and unwillingness to give carmody any credit, even for landing an impressive recruiting class that is quite strong by any objective metric.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 2, 2018 14:15:14 GMT -5
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Post by WorcesterGray on Oct 2, 2018 19:19:52 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Oct 2, 2018 20:39:57 GMT -5
Terrific quotes, esp the final one thanke for the post
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