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Post by longsuffering on Feb 5, 2019 19:41:38 GMT -5
The self suspension was peculiar, the current suspension is peculiar because he wasn't terminated like TG and SK and MB was, he was suspended until the end of this season's games in March. Then what?
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 5, 2019 20:07:09 GMT -5
Once more . . . . this suspension is effectively the same as non-renewing his contract. If he is the Holy Cross women's basketball coach next year, I will make a donation to Holy Cross.
Like him or hate him, he's history at Holy Cross. We may never know what actually happened but whatever it was, it was enough that Holy Cross could finally part ways with him after so many consecutive poor season results. He was once an outstanding coach but for whatever reason, he has not been for way too long. His long tenure, past success and being loved by the local community had made him previously untouchable. Whatever happened trumped those factors.
For all he's done for Holy Cross in the past, I wish him well and great success in the next chapter of his life.
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Post by unhfan on Feb 5, 2019 20:42:44 GMT -5
Agree 100%. There are few, if any, jobs she would leave Tufts to take. Anyone who is content coaching D3 I wouldn't want as my coach. 😳. Wow! Keep it classy 94!
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Post by timholycross on Feb 5, 2019 20:56:53 GMT -5
unhfan: Isn't it funny how riled up people are getting about Ms. Berube from many different angles? Ah, the passion of sports fans!
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Feb 5, 2019 21:00:11 GMT -5
Once more . . . . this suspension is effectively the same as non-renewing his contract. If he is the Holy Cross women's basketball coach next year, I will make a donation to Holy Cross. Like him or hate him, he's history at Holy Cross. We may never know what actually happened but whatever it was, it was enough that Holy Cross could finally part ways with him after so many consecutive poor season results. He was once an outstanding coach but for whatever reason, he has not been for way too long. His long tenure, past success and being loved by the local community had made him previously untouchable. Whatever happened trumped those factors. For all he's done for Holy Cross in the past, I wish him well and great success in the next chapter of his life. Je ne comprends pas Do you ordinarily make contributions to HC only when it does something with which you disagree? I wish him well also, but I hope he is replaced.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 5, 2019 22:25:27 GMT -5
Once more . . . . this suspension is effectively the same as non-renewing his contract. If he is the Holy Cross women's basketball coach next year, I will make a donation to Holy Cross. Like him or hate him, he's history at Holy Cross. We may never know what actually happened but whatever it was, it was enough that Holy Cross could finally part ways with him after so many consecutive poor season results. He was once an outstanding coach but for whatever reason, he has not been for way too long. His long tenure, past success and being loved by the local community had made him previously untouchable. Whatever happened trumped those factors. For all he's done for Holy Cross in the past, I wish him well and great success in the next chapter of his life. Je ne comprends pas Do you ordinarily make contributions to HC only when it does something with which you disagree? I wish him well also, but I hope he is replaced. I echo that feeling. Funny, but unhfan reminded me that UNH had a hockey coach that kept going past when he should have left and it's my guess that it has a lot to do with that once strong program struggling. Hope this suspension doesn't complicate matters.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 6, 2019 0:45:52 GMT -5
When I ask then what? I am not actually confused as to whether he will return, I am confused as to why HC administration couldn't make his departure clear and concise like other terminations. If there is no NCAA violations, no criminal violations and no lawsuit, why muddy the water with "suspended due to an internal investigation over a personnel matter?"
I don't see how that benefits either party as it leads to "What the heck is going on at Holy Cross?" in ways previous clear-cut dismissals did not. If BG negotiated that verbiage, I don't think it makes him look better.
Combined with the concurrent Professor Dustin issue it makes it look like HC is spinning out of control.
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Post by joshua1 on Feb 6, 2019 1:41:16 GMT -5
We all need to back coach gibbons up 100% he's done a lot for the woman's basketball program and for the collage there is zero loyalty from the administration at the collage of the holycross and its sad. If I'm the only person to back coach gibbons up than so be it but I BACK COACH GIBBONS 100%
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Post by hcgrad94 on Feb 6, 2019 7:37:38 GMT -5
Anyone who is content coaching D3 I wouldn't want as my coach. 😳. Wow! Keep it classy 94! Huh? I am just saying that anyone who wouldn't want to coach at the highest level possible wouldn't be the type of leader I would want for my program. No Slam on the coaches mentioned but if they are content to drive a van to play Westfield State for a non-league game I am good.
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Post by gks on Feb 6, 2019 8:08:18 GMT -5
😳. Wow! Keep it classy 94! Huh? I am just saying that anyone who wouldn't want to coach at the highest level possible wouldn't be the type of leader I would want for my program. No Slam on the coaches mentioned but if they are content to drive a van to play Westfield State for a non-league game I am good. Carla Berube has coached three teams for USA Basketball. I think she's pretty good at what she does. Would you say the same about a coach that wanted to stay at Holy Cross for a career? HC is not the highest level.
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Post by bkny on Feb 6, 2019 8:59:00 GMT -5
For goodness sake, respect Coach AM!—- I follow the AAU/HS circuit very closely and you’ll have a hard time finding a more respected, loyal, and capable basketball person in the region.— Don’t upset the apple cart even more than it’s been.—-Support HC WBB!
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Post by Tom on Feb 6, 2019 9:13:59 GMT -5
We all need to back coach gibbons up 100% he's done a lot for the woman's basketball program and for the collage there is zero loyalty from the administration at the collage of the holycross and its sad. HC may or may not be demonstrating loyalty to Coach Gibbons. It's hard to determine if the school's actions are appropriate or not when operating with zero facts. The school might be incredibly loyal to Coach Gibbons. People who know him well (I would say I am acquainted with him but do not know him well) might think it unfathomable that he could do something to merit a suspension. That's fine. I consider myself an excellent Monday morning quarterback, but I can't pull it off with absolutely no information
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Post by biggestfan on Feb 6, 2019 15:32:21 GMT -5
Glad to see they won. Playing Division 1 basketball is not easy and it is harder when they experience is complicate by coaching problems.
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Post by biggestfan on Feb 6, 2019 15:56:39 GMT -5
Has anyone suggested the personnel issue was a staff member? Standing up for a player? For those of you thinking he probably did nothing, you are wrong. You don't know what you are talking about. Someone should have stepped in a long time ago. To reach the level of a division 1 recruit-able player the girls have already endured more bad treatment, disrespect, wins and failures than most people will all their lives. The number of games they play until arrival is hard to imagine. They are some of the strongest willed people you will find. Most players would welcome a coach who knows how to be loud, energetic, and push them physically without the verbal, mental and physical abuse. Often that isn't the case, so getting yelled at and criticized to the point of abuse is just daily chatter for them. They have been through much more. They play with pain and injuries that will effect them the rest of their lives. To complain and let down their family and home town or give someone like you a chance to say they couldn't hold up, is not even considered. For a player to come forth with a complaint the conditions would beyond unbearable.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 6, 2019 16:08:04 GMT -5
Well we have one group that says "Trust us, he did nothing wrong". Another group that says "Trust us, he did something that deserves a suspension".
And then there's the third group (I'm in it) that says: "Doesn't matter, time to go, Bill". In my case, I think the suspension is pretty much linked to "time to go", not much else. But I don't know any more than the others posting here. Probably less.
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Post by HC13 on Feb 6, 2019 17:13:47 GMT -5
A statement from BG
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 6, 2019 18:12:23 GMT -5
Just "an internal, personnel issue" that the college thought warranted a season-long suspension. Sounds like he is going to contest this with the intent of returning to his duties this season.
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Post by spenser on Feb 6, 2019 18:49:06 GMT -5
As a lawyer, I can recognize statements that are written by lawyers. Whatever “litigation” that happens will very likely not be public, but this isn’t over between the Coach and HC. If it’s time for him to go he wouldn’t have been suspended with his contract expiring this year. Obviously the administration feels that whatever happened warrants him being removed now and not in a few short months. If that wasn’t the case they would have just not renewed his contract.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 6, 2019 18:58:44 GMT -5
CBG's explanation of what the transgression did not involve is consistent with what a new poster reported soon after the coach was suspended, and categorized as rumor.
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Post by tom89 on Feb 6, 2019 20:19:37 GMT -5
Thankfully Coach Gibbons issued a clarifying statement on the nature of the “internal personnel matter.” His timely statement will hopefully end needless speculation on the issue going forward. Let’s keep supporting and praying for Coach Mac, the assistant coaches and team that they’ll continue to persevere and keep the faith. Prayers to Coach Gibbons and his family too. 1-2-3 TEAM TOGETHER! Go Cross Go
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Feb 6, 2019 20:47:13 GMT -5
Thankfully Coach Gibbons issued a clarifying statement on the nature of the “internal personnel matter.” His timely statement will hopefully end needless speculation on the issue going forward. Let’s keep supporting and praying for Coach Mac, the assistant coaches and team that they’ll continue to persevere and keep the faith. Prayers to Coach Gibbons and his family too. 1-2-3 TEAM TOGETHER! Go Cross Go In case you missed anyone, let's just pray for everybody.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 6, 2019 21:09:25 GMT -5
CBG's explanation of what the transgression did not involve is consistent with what a new poster reported soon after the coach was suspended, and categorized as rumor. Taking Gibbons at his word, the issue
1. Did not involve sexual misconduct 2. Did not involve a student. 3, Did not involve something illegal. 4. Did not involve a violation of NCAA/PL rules.
So it was something else that the college thought warranted a suspension for the rest of the season. Still much to be "clarified" here
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 6, 2019 21:19:36 GMT -5
CBG's explanation of what the transgression did not involve is consistent with what a new poster reported soon after the coach was suspended, and categorized as rumor. Taking Gibbons at his word, the issue
1. Did not involve sexual misconduct 2. Did not involve a student. 3, Did not involve something illegal. 4. Did not involve a violation of NCAA/PL rules.
So it was something else that the college thought warranted a suspension for the rest of the season. Still much to be "clarified" here
And it was described as a "personnel issue" which would rule out financial misconduct, but not a breach of contract.
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Post by joshua on Feb 7, 2019 0:28:59 GMT -5
I'm happy coach GIBBONS mad a statment but like I said before there is zero loyalty from the administration and especially from the interm athletic director Sullivan. I back coach GIBBONS 100%. And I do not back the decision of what the administration and interim athletic director did. Hope coach GIBBONS will be back next sesson like he said in his statement. We all need to back him up 100%
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Post by JoeHC on Feb 7, 2019 1:37:03 GMT -5
We all need to back him up 100% WHY?
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