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Post by bringbackcaro on May 3, 2019 13:54:09 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on May 3, 2019 13:56:00 GMT -5
You are even sadder.
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Post by alum on May 3, 2019 14:00:37 GMT -5
You really are a keg is half full kind of guy. |
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Post by Tom on May 3, 2019 15:15:17 GMT -5
Per the NCAA site, HC's APR is 995. That is a four year rolling average. Per the HC press release, the Public Recognition Award goes to the top ten percent in a respective sport. A 995 isn't bad, but HC strives for better from its student -athletes. It is disappointing that HC isn't in the top 10 percent for the first time in a while. Not making the top 10 percent is a long, long way from being a part of the cesspool. I am not opposed to criticism, but it would be nice if it were fair and objective ------------------------------ For what it's worth, per that same NCAA site, that 995 is the same score HC got from 2011-2014. It is higher than HC scored from 2005-2008. Once again, doing what we did before while everyone else is getting better might be disappointing, but not in the cesspool. web3.ncaa.org/aprsearch/aprsearch |
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Post by bringbackcaro on May 3, 2019 15:26:18 GMT -5
A 995 isn't bad, but HC strives for better from its student -athletes. It is disappointing that HC isn't in the top 10 percent for the first time in a while. Not making the top 10 percent is a long, long way from being a part of the cesspool. I am not opposed to criticism, but it would be nice if it were fair and objective "Cesspool" was tongue-in-cheek, and just meant to call out the hypocrisy of some who point out everything that is even slightly wrong with coaches and/or programs elsewhere, but turn a blind eye to a coach who has been not been engaged in building the HC program to a point where it needs to be (on and off the court) |
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Post by possum on May 3, 2019 15:39:10 GMT -5
Is there any aspect of the job Carmody has done well enough to still be the coach of this team?
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Post by hchoops on May 3, 2019 15:42:38 GMT -5
Is there any aspect of the job Carmody has done well enough to still be the coach of this team? This will probably just prolong the bashing,, it was in ‘16, but Won a PLT and a first four game ? |
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Post by sader1970 on May 3, 2019 16:40:38 GMT -5
Hardly a "cesspool" but it is very obvious that TPTB at HC put academics front and center. "Dropping" to this level would be fine with me if we were winning/dominating the PL. Coach Carmody can rest on the laurels of the miracle PL tournament championship despite a losing record at HC for just so long. Even Gibbons was eventually non-renewed but had probably 20+ years of success to fall back on and stellar academics as well as community involvement. Carmody doesn't have that luxury IMHO.
Bottom line is Carmody better have an outstanding year (read: win the PL) because it is not like he can fall back on the academics to save him as some other HC coaches have been able to do. I hope and pray he will be successful not just for his sake but the players who deserve it.
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Post by longsuffering on May 3, 2019 16:57:21 GMT -5
I like the symmetry and efficiency of Coach Carmody and Holy Cross completing their mutual contract obligations to each other this season. Let's make it a great year for the Crusaders.
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Post by possum on May 3, 2019 17:09:18 GMT -5
70 a PL title this year is an unrealistic expectation as we are not in the same stratosphere as the returning Colgate team. It will however be interesting to follow Hoops prediction that next years team will be better than this year based on the last three strong recruiting classes. It's not often you get a prediction from Hoops on anything having to do with HC athletics.
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Post by cfrivals on May 3, 2019 19:02:47 GMT -5
Last three strong classes? Last years class strong? Not quite.
BC, probably his last year, but If you don’t pickup a big in a hurry, going to be another long winter on the hill.
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Post by sader1970 on May 3, 2019 19:15:48 GMT -5
possum, I am back from hiatus and always like to "ease back into Crossports" and I have already said more than I intended. So, my final thought on this is that if the bar is to be better than last year, that is an exceptionally low standard as we came in dead last in the league at 6-12 in conference games. Every single season since he's been coach, except his first, we have performed below expectations not only by purple-tinted glasses Crossporters but by pre-season predictions of other league coaches and SIDs. How many here . . . . anywhere . . . . predicted we'd be in the PL cellar when the smoke cleared?
A PL title may be an "unrealistic expectation," but my prediction is if that is not accomplished, he will join Gibbons among those whose contracts simply expired and his resultant departure. I am disappointed that he didn't retire after last season.
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Post by hchoops on May 3, 2019 19:42:50 GMT -5
70 a PL title this year is an unrealistic expectation as we are not in the same stratosphere as the returning Colgate team. It will however be interesting to follow Hoops prediction that next years team will be better than this year based on the last three strong recruiting classes. It's not often you get a prediction from Hoops on anything having to do with HC athletics. If you mean me, well, my memory is not what it once was, but I do not remember making that prediction, though I believe we will better our bad league record of this season. |
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Post by bison137 on May 3, 2019 21:13:13 GMT -5
Hardly a "cesspool" but it is very obvious that TPTB at HC put academics front and center. "Dropping" to this level would be fine with me if we were winning/dominating the PL. Coach Carmody can rest on the laurels of the miracle PL tournament championship despite a losing record at HC for just so long. Even Gibbons was eventually non-renewed but had probably 20+ years of success to fall back on and stellar academics as well as community involvement. Carmody doesn't have that luxury IMHO. Bottom line is Carmody better have an outstanding year (read: win the PL) because it is not like he can fall back on the academics to save him as some other HC coaches have been able to do. I hope and pray he will be successful not just for his sake but the players who deserve it. We'll have to wait and see how the games play out, but if HC does win the league, it will be a huge surprise to most people. I think it is safe to say that HC will be picked no higher than 6th in the official preseason poll and possibly lower. Barring injuries, Colgate will probably be a unanimous pick for #1. |
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Post by longsuffering on May 3, 2019 23:50:29 GMT -5
possum, I am back from hiatus and always like to "ease back into Crossports" and I have already said more than I intended. So, my final thought on this is that if the bar is to be better than last year, that is an exceptionally low standard as we came in dead last in the league at 6-12 in conference games. Every single season since he's been coach, except his first, we have performed below expectations not only by purple-tinted glasses Crossporters but by pre-season predictions of other league coaches and SIDs. How many here . . . . anywhere . . . . predicted we'd be in the PL cellar when the smoke cleared? A PL title may be an "unrealistic expectation," but my prediction is if that is not accomplished, he will join Gibbons among those whose contracts simply expired and his resultant departure. I am disappointed that he didn't retire after last season. Wade right in to Crossports. The water is warm and calm. Think of it as a beach on the Bay side of Cape Cod, not the Ocean side.  |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 4, 2019 9:21:55 GMT -5
In year five, we will most assuredly be picked to finish in the bottom half of the PL.
Time for a new coach.
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Post by Tom on May 4, 2019 10:17:12 GMT -5
In year five, we will most assuredly be picked to finish in the bottom half of the PL. Time for a new coach. Finishing anywhere from 6-9 would be an improvement on this year |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 4, 2019 10:26:01 GMT -5
I think most rational people would agree that a bottom half finish this year would warrant a change in coach.
In fact, I think most people who don’t have an agenda would agree that he should not return as head coach for a fifth season after a terrible fourth season.
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 4, 2019 19:22:34 GMT -5
Still hard to believe that a team with the 4th best overall record in the Patriot League finished 10 in the League standings. Defies logic especially how the team played OOC.
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Post by longsuffering on May 4, 2019 22:20:26 GMT -5
Still hard to believe that a team with the 4th best overall record in the Patriot League finished 10 in the League standings. Defies logic especially how the team played OOC. When a team with a thin bench sustains a season ending injury to a regular contributor, teams with a deeper bench can pass them. |
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Post by Ignutz on May 5, 2019 5:16:12 GMT -5
Still hard to believe that a team with the 4th best overall record in the Patriot League finished 10 in the League standings. Defies logic especially how the team played OOC. And the OOC schedule wasn’t loaded with cupcakes. |
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Post by WorcesterGray on May 5, 2019 5:46:18 GMT -5
When a team with a thin bench sustains a season ending injury to a regular contributor, teams with a deeper bench can pass them. Probably should file this under "memories of things that never were."
Connor Niego appeared in ten games, and contributed meaningfully in four of them (Michigan, Providence, URI, and UMass); Holy Cross was 1-3 in those contests. In the other six, he averaged about seven minutes, one point and one rebound; Holy Cross went 5-1 in those games.
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Post by WorcesterGray on May 5, 2019 6:05:26 GMT -5
Still hard to believe that a team with the 4th best overall record in the Patriot League finished 10 in the League standings. Defies logic especially how the team played OOC. Here's another theory. Our OOC opponents weren't familiar with us and likely didn't spend much time preparing for us. Our PL opponents have seen what we do for years, and prepared for us a lot better than we prepared for them. In particular, they were able to exploit the bad defensive schemes and criminal negligence on the boards that have characterized Holy Cross teams for the last four years. |
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Post by joe on May 5, 2019 6:16:38 GMT -5
Silly. We’re the worst team in the league and arguably getting worse each year. Talking about winning the league next year is ridiculous. I feel bad for all parties involved.
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Post by possum on May 5, 2019 6:48:11 GMT -5
Only two of the ten PL teams had better non conference than conference winning percentages HC and BU. Both programs need a coaching change, Jones has perennially underperformed given the level of talent he's had and we're well aware of Carmody's shortcomings.
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