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Post by HCFC45 on Sept 14, 2019 7:51:11 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Sept 14, 2019 8:02:16 GMT -5
He definitely should be in the Ring of Honor. He outplayed many highly rated offensive linemen from BC, (NFLer Bob Hyland) and Syracuse. His classic plays were very quick penetration into the opponent’s backfield to tackle the ball handler immediately. Once he was there so soon he took the handoff from the QB. Requiescat in pace
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 14, 2019 8:18:09 GMT -5
May his soul rest in peace with my thanks for the many exciting plays he made for HC. He was always good to watch, and excelled even though opponents took special steps to try to neutralize him and keep him out of their backfields. He was both a top athlete and a good person.
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Post by breezy on Sept 14, 2019 8:35:42 GMT -5
Very sad to read this -- one of my favorite players during my time at Holy Cross -- hchoops is right on target with Glenn's quick penetration into the opponent's backfield -- I voted for Glenn to be added to the Ring of Honor when he was listed as a candidate -- may he rest in peace.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 14, 2019 15:37:11 GMT -5
Coming from an older alum, I believe the older players who are strong candidates.should be a priority for the Ring of .Honor so that they can be rewarded while they are alive. How many of the voters never saw Glenn play ? If any/many, that is a real disadvantage in getting selected.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 14, 2019 15:43:06 GMT -5
A little before my time but always heard great things about him on the football field from his coach at HC, Carlin Lynch.
Sad to think they're both gone now...RIP Glenn
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Post by hchoops on Sept 14, 2019 16:38:33 GMT -5
Carlin L would surely have voted Glenn for the Ring of Honor
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Post by td128 on Sept 15, 2019 4:38:57 GMT -5
Always appreciate interest, ideas, and support regarding any program involved in advancing the Mission of the Friends of Crusader Football: "A commitment to excellence in helping the Crusaders win on and off the field".
Without getting into proprietary discussions of the Ring of Honor committee, I welcome sharing with all here that we engaged a number of Crusader alumni who personally observed Crusader football going back to the 1930s so that we could formulate a system of review of all Crusaders eligible for induction into the Ring of Honor.
Beyond that, we also undertook a study of Crusaders even prior to those years so that we could evaluate their exploits on the gridiron as well.
The selection process is an art and not a science and is based on weighted voting by the RoH committee consisting of individuals on and off campus, past inductees, and the general public/Crusader alums. Additionally, we are always thinking of ways that we can further enhance the RoH and all that it means to HC Football and Alma Mater.
For anybody who has actually attended any of the RoH receptions and personally witnessed the remarks shared by those who have received this honor, you know how deeply meaningful this induction means to them. The emotions just flow.
The RoH also has a fabulous impact on the current Crusaders and recruiting as well as it highlights the fact that the great tradition of Holy Cross Football is embraced and celebrated. I have had many Crusader Football families sitting in the home stands at Fitton on game day express real admiration and awestruck wonder when viewing the names and learning of the exploits of those within the RoH. That reality makes a real impact in appreciating that their sons are playing in a program that appreciates and respects its past greats and greatness.
Is it any surprise that the Crusaders have played some exceptional football on the RoH induction days? Not when the emotion of the day is so elevated. The last 3 years' (UNH, Yale, and UNH again) games have been of the spectacular variety.
To pay credit where it is due, we can all thank a fabulous Crusader Ron Maheu '64 who had the vision for the Ring of Honor and the impact that it could have -- and has had -- in elevating the greatness of Holy Cross Crusader Football and Alma Mater as well.
Major thanks to the Kingsley family who provided funding for the bunting that now adorns the inside wall of Fitton Field which only further enhances the single best venue for football in the Patriot League and all of FCS football in the northeast.
There are certainly many other Crusaders including Glenn Grieco (condolences to his family) most worthy of induction into the RIng of Honor. The fact that they have not been inducted is certainly no slight on their careers but only elevates the true greatness of the Ring of Honor as a whole and the careers of those who have already been inducted.
As for the actual honorees, I think most here might once again share in the pride all Crusaders can feel in seeing these names displayed as inductees into the Ring of Honor:
Crusader Football Legends Ring of Honor Name Year Inducted Year of Graduation Dr. Edward N. Anderson 2017 Honorary Ronald M. Cahill 2012 1940 Thomas G. Ciaccio 2014 1992 George L. Connor 2011 1946 L. Gill Fenerty 2010 1986 Harry E. Flaherty 2015 1984 Dennis C. Golden 2017 1963 Thomas W. Greene 2013 1959 Thomas P. Hennessey 2015 1963 Bruce W. Kozerski 2011 1984 Henry E. Lentz 2016 1967 Gordon C. Lockbaum 2010 1988 Charles T. Maloy 2014 1953 Jerry McCabe 2019 1987 Patrick L. McCarthy 2012 1963 Robert P. McGovern 2018 1989 William E. McGovern 2018 1985 Jon N. Morris 2011 1964 David P. Murphy 2017 1990 Edmund D. Murphy, Jr. 2010 1943 William T. Osmanski 2010 1939 Vincent L. Promuto 2010 1960 John S. Provost 2010 1975 David K. Quehl 2013 1976 John B. Turco 2013 1952 Glenn P. Verrette 2016 1980 Jeffrey W. Wiley 2012 1989 Joseph Wilson 2011 1973
#TRADITION #EXCELLENCE #COMMITMENT #PRIDE #WINNING
Thanks for the continued interest and support of Crusader Football and the FoCF.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 15, 2019 8:10:13 GMT -5
Thanks for the lengthy response, but can you say without breaking confidentiality if there is a formula where players from the 50s, 60s, or 70s could be weighed differently since they are less likely to be around if they are inducted later ?
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Post by td128 on Sept 15, 2019 12:21:19 GMT -5
'Hoops,
"The selection process is an art and not a science."
The Selection Committee does not have blinders on nor is it tone deaf in the process of incorporating many factors into the selection process including the one you touch on.
A cursory review of the Crusaders in the RoH shows that they cover a 50+ year time frame with meaningful representation of living RoH inductees at time of induction from the '40s, '50s, '60s, and '70s. This did not happen by accident. First and foremost, all of these individuals are MOST worthy and deserving of induction as are ALL of the honorees.
The entirety of the RoH program speaks for itself and the further advancing of a culture around Holy Cross Football that appreciates and celebrates excellence. Please also know that while the RoH and the honorees are for perpetuity that there comes a point in time when the induction process will meaningfully slow so as to maintain the elite status of this recognition. Nothing is gained if we were to dilute the value of this honor. I can assure you that cannot and will not happen.
The committee has received countless messages of gratitude from honorees, their family members, nominees, alumni, coaches, and administration for the Ring of Honor program and the manner in which it is run and celebrated.
I have not stated anything here that violates any confidences but I am going to leave it at that. THANK YOU again for your longstanding support of the Crusaders.
Let's Win!!
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Post by jkh67 on Sept 15, 2019 13:19:54 GMT -5
As many others have noted, Grieco was an absolute tower of strength on the gridiron for HC back in the '60s. I'm amazed that he's not in the ROH...but then (not surprisingly) the ROH is top heavy with offensive players. (Speaking of offensive players, how is Dominic Randolph not in the ROH!?!) Thinking about Glenn this afternoon brings to mind other defensive stalwarts from my time on the Hill. Guys like Tom Nisi (sp?) and Dick Giardi. We had some good ones "back in the day", my friends!
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Post by td128 on Sept 15, 2019 13:33:11 GMT -5
There is a 10 year wait period from graduation to being eligible for the Ring of Honor. Dominic only becomes eligible next year for induction but he certainly had a great career and is worthy of serious consideration for induction.
No doubt Mr. Grieco had an outstanding career as well . . . as stated previously . . . as did Bob Dee, Pete Muldoon, Stan Koslowski, Buzz Harvey, Ken Desmarais, Larry Ewald, Hilary Mahaney, Lou Kobza, Steve Raquet, Joe Segreti, Jerome Fuller, and countless other Crusaders including all those such as Mr. Grieco who have been nominated for consideration for induction into the RoH.
Thank you again for your support.
LET'S WIN!!
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 15, 2019 14:13:30 GMT -5
Larry-- Is there any sort of guideline as to what % of HOFers should eventually make the ROH? If I'm counting correctly, we have 135 football players (many multi-sport athletes, of course) in the HC Hall of Fame and to date 28 have made the Ring of Honor.
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Post by td128 on Sept 15, 2019 14:23:15 GMT -5
KYC '75. . . I do not want to get into the confidential nature of our committee dialogue but rest assured this topic has received and will continue to receive significant attention so that the elite status of this recognition is fully maintained.
The last thing we can afford is to have people in the stands at Fitton and throughout the college community at large thinking that the value of this honor has been diluted.
We cannot and will not let that happen.
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Post by deep Purple on Sept 15, 2019 15:14:37 GMT -5
There is a 10 year wait period from graduation to being eligible for the Ring of Honor. Dominic only becomes eligible next year for induction but he certainly had a great career and is worthy of serious consideration for induction. No doubt Mr. Grieco had an outstanding career as well . . . as stated previously . . . as did Bob Dee, Pete Muldoon, Stan Koslowski, Buzz Harvey, Ken Desmarais, Larry Ewald, Hilary Mahaney, Lou Kobza, Steve Raquet, Joe Segreti, Jerome Fuller, and countless other Crusaders including all those such as Mr. Grieco who have been nominated for consideration for induction into the RoH. Thank you again for your support. LET'S WIN!! Regarding some of the names you listed, its interesting that Bob Dee is not in. He's in the Patriots HOF and is one of seven players whose number is retired by the Patriots.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 15, 2019 15:32:44 GMT -5
I did not see Bob play much while at HC, but imo pro performance should not be weighed heavily for the RoH, and generally has not thus far.
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