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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 28, 2019 21:02:40 GMT -5
It's been an agonizing out-of-conference season in many ways, but now we come to the heart on the matter: League Play. Who will emerge as the PL Champion?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 21:06:24 GMT -5
If Vegas created odds, I wonder what they would be? I have absolutely no idea at this point.
Holy Cross, Georgetown, Colgate, and Fordham?
Lafayette, Lehigh, and Bucknell are terrible. Actually, who are we kidding? Everyone is terrible. What if Colgate comes back from 0-5 and just stomps everyone in league play?
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Post by hchoops on Sept 28, 2019 21:12:40 GMT -5
Our win vs UNH and Fordham’s win over Richmond take both teams out of the terrible category
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 28, 2019 21:41:55 GMT -5
Our win vs UNH and Fordham’s win over Richmond take both teams out of the terrible category Unless UNH and Richmond are both terrible. Just because they are in the CAA doesn’t mean they’re not terrible.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 28, 2019 22:14:44 GMT -5
UNH has done pretty well since our loss....played FBS FIU pretty tough, beat both URI and a decent Duquesne
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Post by lehighowl on Sept 28, 2019 22:24:42 GMT -5
Based on what I've seen I give a slight edge to Fordham. They very easily could be 3-2. Georgetown and Holy Cross are probably 2A and 2B at this point. The Hoyas are legitimately "decent" i think. They have a real shot to win 8-9 games which is something no one else in the league can say imo. Holy Cross has to get their offense going. It's year 2 and there's been very little progress.
Not trying to throw shade on HC's win over UNH but if the two were to play again I'd take UNH. I took HC four weeks ago given the circumstances surrounding the UNH program at that time. Since then Santos has had time to get comfortable in his head coaching role and their QB play has improved.
Lehigh, Colgate, Lafayette and Bucknell are all varying degrees of awful. An argument can me made that Colgate is actually the worse of the lot. Colgate has lost 6 straight games and all of them have been lopsided. At least Lehigh (1 pt loss to St. Francis/win today) and Lafayette (played solid Monmouth and Penn tough) have shown some fight at times. Bucknell is just lost in the abyss....
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Post by hc87 on Sept 28, 2019 22:39:28 GMT -5
It's really hard ( and fascinating in a bizarre fashion)....HC and Colgate have both played very difficult schedules so far. Every team they've both played would probably win the PL. Fordham looks decent but they also have some bad losses. GTown with a nice win today but they also lost badly to Davidson. Laffy has shown some life but is still winless. Lehigh and Bucknell have been mostly dumpstah fires....yet they probably aren't too far below the other schools.
If I had to rank right now, I'd go:
1 HC 2 Fordham 3 GTown 4 Colgate 5 Lafayette 6 Lehigh 7 Bucknell
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Post by hcpride on Sept 29, 2019 5:38:14 GMT -5
Yes, Colgate is 0-5 (as a few of us predicted) but that was a very tough OOC slate. Yesterday they started their 3rd stringer QB as the injury bug has hit the QB position...if things stay that way they’ve got PL problems....but if they get healthy...
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 29, 2019 7:30:46 GMT -5
I hate being too much of a homer but I like our chances against anyone in this league if our D continues to do its thing and our offense improves. Right now, here's how I rank them:
1) Holy Cross 2t) Fordham 2t) Georgetown 4) Colgate 5) Lafayette 6t) Lehigh 6t) Bucknell
Lafayette can move the ball and played tough in a couple OOC games (W&M and Penn) that shows they won't be a walk through opponent. They are closer to the top 4 than the bottom 2 IMO.
I still can't believe I'm ranking us in the top spot but if our OLINE can hold up for 4 quarters against low-level FCS competition we could be in OK shape. Count me as not worried about the ability of CD and the receiving corps to improve their ability to stretch the field and open up the offense. Love Forrest - I think the future is now. Hopefully, the staff will tailor the playbook as season goes on.
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Post by unhfan on Sept 29, 2019 8:08:41 GMT -5
Based on what I've seen I give a slight edge to Fordham. They very easily could be 3-2. Georgetown and Holy Cross are probably 2A and 2B at this point. The Hoyas are legitimately "decent" i think. They have a real shot to win 8-9 games which is something no one else in the league can say imo. Holy Cross has to get their offense going. It's year 2 and there's been very little progress. Not trying to throw shade on HC's win over UNH but if the two were to play again I'd take UNH. I took HC four weeks ago given the circumstances surrounding the UNH program at that time. Since then Santos has had time to get comfortable in his head coaching role and their QB play has improved. Lehigh, Colgate, Lafayette and Bucknell are all varying degrees of awful. An argument can me made that Colgate is actually the worse of the lot. Colgate has lost 6 straight games and all of them have been lopsided. At least Lehigh (1 pt loss to St. Francis/win today) and Lafayette (played solid Monmouth and Penn tough) have shown some fight at times. Bucknell is just lost in the abyss.... Lehigh, You make a great point about UNH. Throw in the fact that the PL commissioner called our AD to apologize for the td call in the end zone and maybe if they called it a safety we still win that game. It’s a funny game but credit to the PL commissioner for doing that it doesn’t change anything but a classy move.
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Post by joe on Sept 29, 2019 8:12:00 GMT -5
What SHOULD happen is that the offense (hate it or hate it) should open up well enough against Bucknell to be able to score just enough points to win a PL championship on the back of the defense. What MAY happen is that we finally beat Lehigh, Colgate, and Fordham in the same year and then sustain a stupid loss to a team we should beat which will kill our hopes. Bucknell and Georgetown are two names that come to mind. True story.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 29, 2019 8:13:53 GMT -5
You put one of my biggest concerns into print.
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Post by breezy on Sept 29, 2019 8:17:16 GMT -5
Yes, Colgate is 0-5 (as a few of us predicted) but that was a very tough OOC slate. Yesterday they started their 3rd stringer QB as the injury bug has hit the QB position...if things stay that way they’ve got PL problems....but if they get healthy... Colgate will be a different team if Breneman can come back from his injury. Not sure what it was or how long he will be sidelined.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 29, 2019 8:18:50 GMT -5
Based on what I've seen I give a slight edge to Fordham. They very easily could be 3-2. Georgetown and Holy Cross are probably 2A and 2B at this point. The Hoyas are legitimately "decent" i think. They have a real shot to win 8-9 games which is something no one else in the league can say imo. Holy Cross has to get their offense going. It's year 2 and there's been very little progress. Not trying to throw shade on HC's win over UNH but if the two were to play again I'd take UNH. I took HC four weeks ago given the circumstances surrounding the UNH program at that time. Since then Santos has had time to get comfortable in his head coaching role and their QB play has improved. Lehigh, Colgate, Lafayette and Bucknell are all varying degrees of awful. An argument can me made that Colgate is actually the worse of the lot. Colgate has lost 6 straight games and all of them have been lopsided. At least Lehigh (1 pt loss to St. Francis/win today) and Lafayette (played solid Monmouth and Penn tough) have shown some fight at times. Bucknell is just lost in the abyss.... Lehigh, You make a great point about UNH. Throw in the fact that the PL commissioner called our AD to apologize for the td call in the end zone and maybe if they called it a safety we still win that game. It’s a funny game but credit to the PL commissioner for doing that it doesn’t change anything but a classy move. Sour grapes.
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Post by unhfan on Sept 29, 2019 8:32:22 GMT -5
Lehigh, You make a great point about UNH. Throw in the fact that the PL commissioner called our AD to apologize for the td call in the end zone and maybe if they called it a safety we still win that game. It’s a funny game but credit to the PL commissioner for doing that it doesn’t change anything but a classy move. Sour grapes. Just sharing facts. It’s still a win for your team. I just thought Lehigh made a great point and thought the story of your commissioner calling UNH tied into it.
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Post by spenser on Sept 29, 2019 10:39:13 GMT -5
Obviously, a one weekend sampling does not constitute a trend. This past weekend 3PL teams won OOC games. Fordham over Richmond(CAA); Georgetown over Columbia (Ivy) and Lehigh over Merrimack(?).Naturally, I would have wanted HC, Bucknell and Colgate to complete the sweep. I expect all the naysayers to point out that Richmond is a CAA bottom feeder and ignore that its a higher level league. Columbia with Bagnoli has been on the upswing but Columbia is still Columbia. What's a Merrimack?In other words some will find the negative to devalue any wins. And, naturally the naysayers will also focus on the losses by HC(Fire the OC), Colgate & Bucknell (both are winless.) Even though OOC results are not a primary concern for me nevertheless, a win is a win. 3 up,3 down. At least for this weekend the PL was not a "total disaster." LoveHC Obviously a different sport and somewhat irrelevant, but Merrimack is a member of Hockey East.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 29, 2019 10:56:43 GMT -5
Merrimack is now in the NEC, along with LIU this year. LIU and CW Post combined their athletic programs.
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Post by purplepig on Sept 29, 2019 13:12:41 GMT -5
The Patriot League needs Merrimack in football.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 29, 2019 13:25:31 GMT -5
The Patriot League needs Merrimack in football. Why ? Academic standing ? Athletic tradition ? Strong alumni fan base ?
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Post by joe on Sept 29, 2019 13:32:11 GMT -5
The Patriot League needs Merrimack in football. Why ? Academic standing ? Athletic tradition ? Strong alumni fan base ? I’m also genuinely interested in why. Who we need are Villanova, Richmond, and Bill and Mary. but that is a pipe dream on a ship that has already sailed and sunk.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 29, 2019 14:17:14 GMT -5
I think you need to turn on your sarcasm detectors, but I could be wrong....
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Post by crusader12 on Sept 29, 2019 14:19:52 GMT -5
The Patriot League is garbage. Hence why I am crowning Georgetown the king of the losers! The perfect year for them to win PLC.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 29, 2019 14:33:22 GMT -5
Why ? Academic standing ? Athletic tradition ? Strong alumni fan base ? I’m also genuinely interested in why. Who we need are Villanova, Richmond, and Bill and Mary. but that is a pipe dream on a ship that has already sailed and sunk. The Patriot League needs Lehigh, Lafayette and Holy Cross to turn into real football programs again. Colgate and Fordham get a pass for going through a downturn after great runs this decade. As has been discussed before there is no appetite at UR, W&M or VU for Patriot League membership. Increased strength must come from within!
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Post by purplepig on Sept 29, 2019 14:44:30 GMT -5
1,000 pardons: I do not really propose that the league invite Merrimack even though it is a school that league members can beat. Sorry! As for Lehigh and Holy Cross, they are not the problem. Bucknell and Lafayette are the schools routinely dragging down the league. All teams have down years. These two schools do not seem to care about anything more than putting a team on the field and it shows. I do not fault the players, it is the fault of leadership. Regrets again for the lack of clarity.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 29, 2019 17:05:21 GMT -5
Lafayette had some very good teams in the mid-2000's. Their arch-rival is one of the two flagship football programs in this league. They have a gorgeous stadium that's been recently renovated and a relatively loyal following considering the lack of winning. Why can't they get it together?
Bucknell is a head-scratcher. Never much of a football school but they are right in the football-crazed shadow of Happy Valley. Not to mention D2 football in the state is very strong. Commitment to overall athletics at the school is tremendous. Why can't they make football work?
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