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Post by timholycross on Feb 14, 2020 10:09:23 GMT -5
Colgate or BU would win easily Mostly 20-22 year olds vs16-19 If not, I tender my resignation as a college basketball fan. The game will have 100% become "talent and potential only", just roll the ball out there and let them play. No thanks.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 14, 2020 23:30:47 GMT -5
In a 79-77 win over Cheshire, Mike had 16, Judson scored 6 Surprise, ! the two guards were the high scorers
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Post by HC92 on Feb 15, 2020 11:29:24 GMT -5
Colgate or BU would win easily Mostly 20-22 year olds vs16-19 If not, I tender my resignation as a college basketball fan. The game will have 100% become "talent and potential only", just roll the ball out there and let them play. No thanks. That’s kind of what these prep school games are. Just roll the ball out and let them play. Lots of transition baskets and one-on-one play. Not a lot else going on offensively.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 15, 2020 22:13:00 GMT -5
In a 23 point loss to W&M, Judson had 11, Mike scored 3
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Post by hchoops on Feb 17, 2020 17:32:46 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Feb 19, 2020 22:25:51 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Feb 20, 2020 12:26:50 GMT -5
A hoop fan’s fix
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Post by hchoops on Feb 22, 2020 17:58:51 GMT -5
In an 84-79 win over Cheshire, Judson had 16, inc two 3s. Mike scored 10.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 23, 2020 22:18:36 GMT -5
In a 71-66 loss to 25-4 Woodstock Academy Judson led with 16 inc one 3 and 7 ft, Mike had 10 with two 3s.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 26, 2020 21:04:24 GMT -5
In an 83-60 loss to Cushing Judson led the WA scoring with 16. Mike R had 8
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 26, 2020 22:56:17 GMT -5
Went to the game today - Senior Day for Martindale and Rabinovich, and the two others. Nice ceremony.
Martindale was spectacular offensively, scoring on explosive drives both left and right, a pull-up from 12', a tough fall away from about the same distance, a long three and an emphatic flush to finish a break. Don't think he missed more than two shots from the field. Rabinovich impressed as well with his back to the basket, scoring twice on nice post-ups, and hit a jumper from the elbow. Both rebounded very well.
That said, Martindale was not impressive defensively, either on or off the ball, getting beaten on the dribble a couple times and losing his man away from the ball - got into some foul trouble in the second half. Rabinovich had some problems as well on late helps, but did an ok job on Cushing's bigs. They will need to be coached up significantly at that end.
Really looking forward to seeing them go to work here next season.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 27, 2020 8:49:18 GMT -5
They may have defensive weaknesses, but few HS players work hard on D unless their coach makes them
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Post by efg72 on Feb 27, 2020 10:23:28 GMT -5
And play little to no defense with their AAU teams
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 27, 2020 10:30:50 GMT -5
They may have defensive weaknesses, but few HS players work hard on D unless their coach makes them Having watched Cushing play a few times, I'm pretty sure their coach emphasizes defense. WA's staff - not so much.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 27, 2020 10:36:03 GMT -5
I doubt that many of RW’s players defended much in Hs, definitely none at the level that he had them play.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 27, 2020 10:45:02 GMT -5
Which circles us back to the concern that SoV has expressed about whether or not Nelson can coach up defense. He doesn't have to be Willard, but we do need to become at least an average defensive team to contend. We'll see.
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Post by sarasota on Feb 27, 2020 10:53:29 GMT -5
From the deep dark recesses of my memory, lack of defense coaching was a glaring weakness of Blaney.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 27, 2020 11:02:38 GMT -5
Which circles us back to the concern that SoV has expressed about whether or not Nelson can coach up defense. He doesn't have to be Willard, but we do need to become at least an average defensive team to contend. We'll see. Agree that we need to be at least average on defense, disagree with the idea that SOV knows anything about Nelson's defensive coaching chops. Last night 80% of our minutes were played by guys who are somewhere between poor and not good defenders, and the other 20% was played by a freshman (Pridgen). We will not know what Nelson can do until he has at least some pieces to play with on the defensive end of the floor.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 27, 2020 11:23:46 GMT -5
Which circles us back to the concern that SoV has expressed about whether or not Nelson can coach up defense. He doesn't have to be Willard, but we do need to become at least an average defensive team to contend. We'll see. Agree that we need to be at least average on defense, disagree with the idea that SOV knows anything about Nelson's defensive coaching chops. Fair point. None of us can know of his defensive coaching ability because we haven't seen it this year. Hopefully it arrives next season with the incoming freshmen.
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Post by possum on Feb 27, 2020 14:34:05 GMT -5
I really like what Nelson has done on the recruiting front as it looks like the incoming frosh are a step up from the players we have been recruiting in the prior regime. Hopefully he will land at least one of the other players we are currently pursuing. That being said I don't think we're any closer to knowing if Nelson can coach than we were when the year began. I agree with BBC that the talent isn't there so it's tough to judge the results this year. He has basically done what I thought he would do when the season began lose games. He certainly has not made chicken salad out of a chicken blank roster. BBC seems to think that the roster is so bad that no one or nothing could be done to improve the defense this year. Does anyone really think that if Willard was given the same roster that we'd still be the worst defensive team in the country, I find that hard to believe. It appears that Nelson has taken the first step improving the talent level of the roster, now it's time to find out if he can do the X's and O's part to turn the program into a winning team.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 27, 2020 14:39:18 GMT -5
As I have said before it is very unfair, esp for a rookie coach, to compare him to RW, esp to his defensive acumen.
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Post by efg72 on Feb 27, 2020 14:48:17 GMT -5
He made a fundamental choice- change the system! It didn't matter what the current skills were on the roster because he was recruiting players he believed would be able to play in his system. He will be judged on the success of his recruits.
As an approach, it certainly makes sense, although I respectfully disagree. IMO he should have focused on creating a winning mindset- not just in terms of a W-L record,, but in experiencing small successes that could build trust and respect for each other, and a much needed confidence in the future which is part of establishing a winning culture.
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Post by possum on Feb 27, 2020 14:51:41 GMT -5
Agree not fair to compare a first year coach to Willard but there's plenty of room between Willard level defense and the worst defense in the country.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 27, 2020 14:56:59 GMT -5
As I have said before it is very unfair, esp for a rookie coach, to compare him to RW, esp to his defensive acumen. Agree. Comparison to Willard isn't fair. He was a superior defensive mind compared to just about anyone in college basketball. That said, a good defensive mind would find a way to have this team -- regardless of how bad the talent is -- not ranked sixth from the bottom. Also, I'm not really sure what Nelson is looking to do on the defensive end. It would be one thing if there looked to be a clear identity or system he was seeking to implement, but the team simply wasn't able to execute it. Many on this board, myself included, criticized Milan Brown for a vanilla man to man defensive approach without any wrinkles. I fear that's what we are seeing again and will continue to see next year. I'm sure the defense will improve -- how can it not when you are this close to the bottom? -- with better players, but will it get us to where we need to be? Remains to be seen.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 27, 2020 16:12:05 GMT -5
He made a fundamental choice- change the system! It didn't matter what the current skills were on the roster because he was recruiting players he believed would be able to play in his system. He will be judged on the success of his recruits. As an approach, it certainly makes sense, although I respectfully disagree. IMO he should have focused on creating a winning mindset- not just in terms of a W-L record,, but in experiencing small successes that could build trust and respect for each other, and a much needed confidence in the future which is part of establishing a winning culture. We finished in last place in the PL last year playing a zone and lost our three best players (+ Pat Benzan). The assumption that simply switching to a zone this year would have made a difference is severely flawed. Instead, Nelson focused on changing the culture of the program and seeing who was physically and mentally tough enough to play in that culture. Assuming that improved results on the X's & O's front are coming with the roster turnover, this was a far better decision than kowtowing to a roster where the majority of the players did not even belong.
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