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Post by hchoops on Nov 6, 2019 11:48:30 GMT -5
Thank you, Ray
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Post by Tom on Nov 6, 2019 12:28:10 GMT -5
GoHC (Bare) says most points in a debut performance in 15 years Great, but is that player a mystery guest ? My guess is that he only got around to 15 years of research. 15 years ago would have been Doherty/Cliiford - neither of them scored. The prior year was Thomas/Simmons. Thomas tied for team lead with 18
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Post by sonsofspitler on Nov 6, 2019 12:44:50 GMT -5
Great, but is that player a mystery guest ? My guess is that he only got around to 15 years of research. 15 years ago would have been Doherty/Cliiford - neither of them scored. The prior year was Thomas/Simmons. Thomas tied for team lead with 18 The HC site doesn't have digital box scores before the 02-03 season. Before that we need media guides or game articles to validate it.
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Post by hcnation on Nov 6, 2019 13:05:21 GMT -5
King Gaskins did not start the opener his freshman year 1n 1972 at Dartmouth , but scored 17 in a loss .
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Post by hchoops on Nov 6, 2019 13:06:01 GMT -5
The digital Crusader game articles usually give the high scorers
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Post by Tom on Nov 6, 2019 13:07:10 GMT -5
If we're saying the most in 15 years and we're saying it didn't happen 16 years ago, I'm thinking that's as far back as the research has gone and Bare hasn't come up with the mystery name yet. If it turn out to be Jim McCaffery back in the fall of 84, it is still correct to say most debut points in 15 years
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Post by hchoops on Nov 6, 2019 13:09:53 GMT -5
Even though The Crusader game article did not give the scoring, it seems as if McCaffrey had 24 or more of our 68, it would have gotten a mention
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Post by hcnation on Nov 6, 2019 13:22:30 GMT -5
Champ Godbolt , the transfer from Maine had 22 in his debut in 1982 against Vermont . The next game against Yale he had 29 .
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 6, 2019 13:24:23 GMT -5
To me the bigger achievement is points in a freshman debut as that suggests a player who will star for four years, not two
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Post by timholycross on Nov 6, 2019 13:46:57 GMT -5
God, the Terps are BIG...Butler's drives to the hoop were reminiscent of watching Benzan take it to the rack (because he had to, the shot clock would invariably be running down and he'd have the ball) against just about any opponent. And Butler is 4 or 5 inches taller.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 6, 2019 14:39:40 GMT -5
Keith Hochstein scored 21 in his debut as a soph.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 6, 2019 14:45:53 GMT -5
A proud dad
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Post by hchoops on Nov 6, 2019 14:47:39 GMT -5
An objective view of the refs
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Post by hcnation on Nov 6, 2019 14:47:51 GMT -5
No freshman could play at least between 1952- 1972.
In sophomore debut in 197O , Jim Schnurr had 18 against Stonehill .
The prior year 1969, also against Stonehill , Buddy Venne made his debut scoring 27.
Lowder being a freshman and against top ten rank Maryland way more impressive, of course.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 6, 2019 14:58:11 GMT -5
An objective view of the refs That's Tim McLaughlin '88 next to Mrs Wade lol....small world
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Post by lou on Nov 6, 2019 15:20:33 GMT -5
GoHC (Bare) says most points in a debut performance in 15 years He has updated now to 30 years
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Post by hc89 on Nov 6, 2019 15:38:44 GMT -5
An objective view of the refs That's Tim McLaughlin '88 next to Mrs Wade lol....small world ‘89, but still hilarious...wonder how he got those tickets?
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Post by Tom on Nov 6, 2019 16:12:30 GMT -5
That's Tim McLaughlin '88 next to Mrs Wade lol....small world ‘89, but still hilarious...wonder how he got those tickets? At most road venues, it's pretty easy to sneak down pretty close to the HC bench
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Post by hchoops on Nov 6, 2019 17:33:56 GMT -5
Coach Nelson was justifiably critical of our turnovers, but think about Bill Self. Kansas had 28 turnovers vs Duke. That is not a typo. Our 14 TOs turned into 15 points for them. Their 8 turnovers were converted into 9 points for us. So stat wise, only. 6 point difference.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 6, 2019 17:34:50 GMT -5
GoHC (Bare) says most points in a debut performance in 15 years He has updated now to 30 years Wonder if he has found a player or if he is still searching ? HCNation here has Buddy Venne as a soph with 27. That was 50 years ago. Keep digging, Sir Charles.
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Post by dadominate on Nov 6, 2019 17:38:46 GMT -5
not sure how long this will stay posted, but here's the entire game last night for those who did not get to be there or watch on tv.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 6, 2019 17:40:21 GMT -5
Thank you, Dado.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 6, 2019 19:48:10 GMT -5
Watching the whole game, I noticed a few things. We went with a small lineup at times with Pridgen at the four. This lineup obviously had a tough time on the boards. We missed many threes, but some rimmed out after being in the cylinder which is the goal of every shooter. Lowder had a number of these as did Verbeek. We played a fair amount of aggressive 2-3. Again the problem was more of failing to box out.or blatant mismatches on the glass, both resulting in offensive put backs. Impressive was Connor’s ball handing —passing and even a behind the back dribble drive
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Post by hchoops on Nov 7, 2019 7:35:38 GMT -5
The 13000+ is our largest crowd since 2015 in the Carrier Dome—21,000+
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Post by possum on Nov 7, 2019 7:41:00 GMT -5
Missed the Maryland game but it looks like the boys acquitted themselves quite well. Real encouraging games by Lowder, Pridgen and Hargis. I did see the Assumption game and it's pretty obvious that Lowder is a very skilled offensive player. It looks like we have some nice young players to build around. Little concerned about Faw, got little time against Assumption and only 5 minutes against Maryland. Is there any injury issue or is he really not suited for the new style of play? I think we're going to need positive contributions from him given our lack of big bodies. Next two games should be very interesting playing two teams who are also picked last in their respective conferences.
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