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Post by rgs318 on Jan 19, 2020 10:26:42 GMT -5
Rank Team (Records) 14 (15) Maryland (14-4) 88 (88) Harvard (12-4) 109 (113) Colgate (14-5) 122 (115) Hofstra (14-6) 179 (171) Lafayette (11-6) 185 (166) Northeastern (10-9) 187 (174) Florida Atlantic (12-7) 194 (191) Boston University (10-9) 200 (220) San Diego (8-13) 209 (221) Navy (10-7) 218 (207) Sacred Heart (10-8) 220 (206) Siena (7-8) 228 (237) Bucknell (8-11) 235 (233) American (8-9) 241 (250) Canisius (7-10) 251 (238) Fairfield (7-10) 265 (288) Mercer (8-11) 270 (259) Loyola (MD) (9-10) 273 (276) New Hampshire (9-9) 296 (309) Army (7-10) 300 (285) Lehigh (5-13) 344 (343) HOLY CROSS (2-17)
*D3 UMass-Boston (12-8) out of 353 D1 teams
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 19, 2020 11:47:05 GMT -5
I am probably in denial but despite everything, I just don’t find this “acceptable” or “excusable.”
Again, this is on (in no particular order): Carmody TPTB Nelson The assistant coaches The players generally Drew Lowder in particular
Like they say about plane crashes almost never being a result of one cause, these results are due to a combination of causes.
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Post by crossbball13 on Jan 19, 2020 14:14:38 GMT -5
I am probably in denial but despite everything, I just don’t find this “acceptable” or “excusable.” Again, this is on (in no particular order): Carmody TPTB Nelson The assistant coaches The players generally Drew Lowder in particular Like they say about plane crashes almost never being a result of one cause, these results are due to a combination of causes. Come on. Obviously Pine is part of this.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 19, 2020 14:30:05 GMT -5
I am probably in denial but despite everything, I just don’t find this “acceptable” or “excusable.” Again, this is on (in no particular order): Carmody TPTB Nelson The assistant coaches The players generally Drew Lowder in particular Like they say about plane crashes almost never being a result of one cause, these results are due to a combination of causes. Come on. Obviously Pine is part of this. Pine is the number one reason the program is where it is.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 19, 2020 14:32:02 GMT -5
So he gets credit for our PL Football Championship?
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Post by lou on Jan 19, 2020 14:34:56 GMT -5
Too bad we can't go back to the good old days before we had the Luth
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Post by crossbball13 on Jan 19, 2020 14:46:19 GMT -5
So he gets credit for our PL Football Championship? By default, yes. Although chesney was not his 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice. Facts!
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 19, 2020 14:51:37 GMT -5
I am probably in denial but despite everything, I just don’t find this “acceptable” or “excusable.” Again, this is on (in no particular order): Carmody TPTB Nelson The assistant coaches The players generally Drew Lowder in particular Like they say about plane crashes almost never being a result of one cause, these results are due to a combination of causes. Correct. The Ukranian Airliner was hit by two Iranian Missles. This is the first direct blame placed on the assistant coaches. Are we holding off on RJ's canonization?
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 19, 2020 14:58:22 GMT -5
Do you think RJ ever looks up wistfully and then reminds himself: "RW is not walking through that door." I hope BN's and RJ's recruiting and coaching makes my comments look foolish over the next few years.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 19, 2020 15:05:39 GMT -5
Surely. An oversight on my part. I also neglected to add alums and fans (for not giving even more financial and fan support at games and advising the coaches of potential great recruits). Hey, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem!
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 19, 2020 15:06:19 GMT -5
So he gets credit for our PL Football Championship? By default, yes. Although chesney was not his 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice. Facts! So he did hire Chesney then...fact.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 19, 2020 15:15:41 GMT -5
25% credit for fourth choice?
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Post by CHC8485 on Jan 19, 2020 15:23:49 GMT -5
As long as we're apportioning blame, how much does Bishop Fenwick get, because, if he never established the college we wouldn't have any of these issues!
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 19, 2020 15:37:13 GMT -5
There are no "winners" in the "blame game." Start that one and everyone loses...unless someone is perfect.Since no one is perfect, everyone shares some of the blame on some level.
Even if blame could be assigned to someone (or some group), what would be changed? I have to say nothing. It is an exercise in futility.
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Post by purplepig on Jan 19, 2020 15:41:36 GMT -5
If Milan Brown were still around, things would be better.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 19, 2020 15:54:03 GMT -5
lol
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Post by crossbball13 on Jan 19, 2020 17:18:09 GMT -5
If Milan Brown were still around, things would be better. Maybe yes. But we’d be stuck as a 170-210 ranked team, likely with no championships. I hope we have higher aspirations than that.
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 19, 2020 23:16:45 GMT -5
Well, we're not the worst team in New England - CCSU is now 1-18 after a 27 pt loss to Mt St Mary's yesterday - their only W was against D.3 Conn College (I know what some will say 'But they have a better record than us vs. D.3 competition')
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Post by Ignutz on Jan 19, 2020 23:49:51 GMT -5
Well, we're not the worst team in New England - CCSU is now 1-18 after a 27 pt loss to Mt St Mary's yesterday - their only W was against D.3 Conn College (I know what some will say 'But they have a better record than us vs. D.3 competition') But they have a better record than WE vs. D3 competition.
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Post by bison137 on Jan 20, 2020 2:40:00 GMT -5
Well, we're not the worst team in New England - CCSU is now 1-18 after a 27 pt loss to Mt St Mary's yesterday - their only W was against D.3 Conn College (I know what some will say 'But they have a better record than us vs. D.3 competition') CCSU is dead last (#353) in Massey ratings. Only #350 per Pomeroy. They won 14 games and then 11 games in Donyell Marshall's first two seasons as coach. This year five of their core seven players are freshmen and another is an incoming soph transfer - with six players having transferred out. Their AD wanted to hire Jay Young, now the head coach at Fairfield, a couple of years ago - but their President vetoed it and insisted on Donyell Marshall. That decision is not looking too good at the moment.
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Post by purplepig on Jan 20, 2020 14:30:58 GMT -5
If Milan Brown were still around, things would be better. Maybe yes. But we’d be stuck as a 170-210 ranked team, likely with no championships. I hope we have higher aspirations than that. Maybe that is the Patriot League way now. Lehigh had its big moment and has done little since. Bucknell’s glory days seem far away. Lafayette is content with decades of sub-mediocrity. The academies are content with mediocrity. Colgate is a good PL team but not a real good team. American, Boston, Loyola, who cares? Why Reed and Langel have not left for better jobs is a mystery. League fans get to watch some good games and good kids. Maybe that has to be enough.
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Post by bison137 on Jan 20, 2020 14:48:01 GMT -5
Maybe yes. But we’d be stuck as a 170-210 ranked team, likely with no championships. I hope we have higher aspirations than that. Maybe that is the Patriot League way now. Lehigh had its big moment and has done little since. Bucknell’s glory days seem far away. Depends on your definition. Bucknell was PL co-champ last year and outright champ the previous four years. Gave both West Virginia and Michigan State good games in the NCAA tournament. Was a top 100 team several times in that stretch.
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Post by purplepig on Jan 20, 2020 14:52:55 GMT -5
You are of course correct and the Bison have been the gold standard of the league for awhile. The league lacks big wins. Colgate has one this year, I think that is it.
I enjoy following the league. The games are competitive. My only point is, as Jack Nicholson said, “Is this as good as it gets?”
I think so.
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Post by crossbball13 on Jan 20, 2020 18:34:23 GMT -5
You are of course correct and the Bison have been the gold standard of the league for awhile. The league lacks big wins. Colgate has one this year, I think that is it. I enjoy following the league. The games are competitive. My only point is, as Jack Nicholson said, “Is this as good as it gets?” I think so. Well since it currently isn’t as good as it once was, I’d say you are wrong.
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Post by cfrivals on Jan 20, 2020 19:37:47 GMT -5
344 out of 353! Is totally horrible! 2-17 with a possible 30 loss season. Guys, coaching usually adjusts at some point and can squeeze 8-10 wins out. But this staff and team has not figured it out. This is one of the weakest PL’s in quite a while and it’s getting worse. You think the Calvary of better players are coming! I heard this with every class over last 11 years. Teams that lose 28-30 games don’t have many 3star players wanting to be on the worst team in D1. We beat up NP and DR, but where is ADMB? What is his take on this? Crickets. Hockey, WBB and MBB are in the total Crapper and the AD has nothing?
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