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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 7, 2020 18:03:34 GMT -5
and if they called her Rachel instead of Raquel they never got a second date
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 7, 2020 18:05:16 GMT -5
Sota-- how many offers do you think top schools such as Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State--places where many HS athletes literally dream of playing-- extend?
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Post by Crucis#1 on Apr 7, 2020 18:07:18 GMT -5
Who is “Rachel Welch”?
Or did you mean “Raquel Welch”.
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Post by CHC8485 on Apr 7, 2020 18:16:35 GMT -5
'sota, you have a chance. Rachel is Raquel's homely cousin! If all goes well, Rachel will arrange an introduction!
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Post by breezy on Apr 7, 2020 18:30:22 GMT -5
Offer # 83 -- DL DAVID ADEWALE, 6-3, 245, Bolles School, Jacksonville, FL Hudl: www.hudl.com/profile/9659462/David-AdewaleOffers: Furman, Dartmouth, Yale, Bucknell, Tennessee-Martin, Chattanooga, Campbell, Eastern Kentucky, Army, Morehead State.
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Post by breezy on Apr 7, 2020 18:38:55 GMT -5
Offer # 84 -- OL DANIEL WARNSMAN, 6-4, 275, Dublin Coffman HS, Dublin, OH. Hudl: www.hudl.com/profile/11325074/Daniel-WarnsmanOffers: Appalachian State, Liberty, Toledo, Buffalo, Richmond, Ball State, W&M, Furman, Youngstown State, Eastern Kentucky, Akron.
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Post by breezy on Apr 7, 2020 18:47:49 GMT -5
Offer # 85 -- TE JACOB PASLEY, 6-5, 235, Sebring HS, Sebring, FL. Rated: 247 Sports -- 3* (82) Hudl: www.hudl.com/profile/11313697/Jacob-PasleyOffers: Appalachian State, FAU, FIU, Furman, Marshall, USF, Southern Miss, Utah State, Penn, Yale.
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Post by breezy on Apr 7, 2020 20:34:24 GMT -5
Offer # 86 -- OL AUSTIN GENTLE, 6-3, 290, McCallie School, Chattanooga, TN Rated: 247 Sports -- 3* (88); Rivals -- 3: (5.5), Hudl: www.hudl.com/profile/5619983/Austin-GentleOffers: Mississippi, Louisville, Memphis, Texas A&M, Yale, Air Force, numerous others.
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Post by sarasota on Apr 7, 2020 22:08:36 GMT -5
Sophomoric analogy, but nonetheless you can continue along your crusade to insist they are "shot gunning" offers. Whatever that means.
Again - I'll leave it to the people who know what they are doing along with countless other Division 1, 2 and 3 staffs.
Oh BTW - the guys who got dates with Rachel actually had to ask her the question in order to go on said date. That comment of yours shows you missed the point of my sophomoric analogy entirely.
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Post by sarasota on Apr 7, 2020 22:10:59 GMT -5
Sota-- how many offers do you think top schools such as Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State--places where many HS athletes literally dream of playing-- extend? Doesn't matter what they do or don't do. We're not them.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 7, 2020 23:16:12 GMT -5
Sota-- how many offers do you think top schools such as Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State--places where many HS athletes literally dream of playing-- extend? Doesn't matter what they do or don't do. We're not them. Okay--here's the point I was trying to make: if the biggest and most powerful and most appealing programs make 200 or 250 offers to land their 22 players , why would you think a lower profile program such as HC could have such a higher conversion rate, e.g. making 50 offers to land 20 or 25 players?
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Post by sarasota on Apr 8, 2020 2:09:07 GMT -5
You are focusing on only one aspect of recruiting, the ratio of offers to commitments. There are other important considerations like: How much depth have our recruiters gone into in researching the candidate, how much video of the candidate have they viewed, have they visited the candidate, will the candidate commit to visiting the campus, how much do our recruiters know about the candidate's academics, how much do our recruiters know about a candidate's interests, hobbies, skills, etc. that might influence HC Admissions, etc. If HC doesn't have the manpower, budget, desire to undertake such intensive analysis of a candidate, then an optional approach is to.....shotgun.
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 8, 2020 7:01:43 GMT -5
In fairness, you have clearly communicated your disagreement with making so many offers. Why? An offer costs nothing and there is always a chance that HC may get a real talent. If not, we have not lost anything. I think the difficulty comes from, your term "shotgunning" - used as if there is no system to these offers and the offers are somehow just scattered about in random fashion. That is clearly (for most of us) not the case here.
Continued success to the coaches as they carry out recruiting.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Apr 8, 2020 8:29:48 GMT -5
So is that your take on this? Chesney and staff are underresourced rubes running around throwing offers at anyone and everyone?
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Post by sarasota on Apr 8, 2020 10:27:39 GMT -5
Our offers are up to #86. Given the resources we have and the restrictive windows during which the NCAA allows recruiting, how much analysis could we have done on 86 recruits?
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Post by CHC8485 on Apr 8, 2020 10:39:08 GMT -5
There are no restrictions on watching tape, lots of time for assistants to do that. And phone calls and text messages are basically fixed costs right now so it doesn't cost more to make 100 calls vs.10.
And the extended "Dead Period" we're in now for recruiting is not as inactive as dead would imply....
And with 11 full time coaches and 86 players, each coach could spend a full day analyzing 1 player and they'd be done in a bit more than a week. I bet we're doing plenty of analysis of tape over the last 3 months.
To paraphrase Obi Wan Kenobi ...
Use the facts, Sarasota, Use the Facts.
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Post by joe on Apr 8, 2020 11:02:26 GMT -5
Our offers are up to #86. Given the resources we have and the restrictive windows during which the NCAA allows recruiting, how much analysis could we have done on 86 recruits? I’d wager coaches from good programs like ours work well outside their work hours to collectively conduct in-depth analyses of hundreds of athletes to get that number down to a mere 86. Remember there are many coaches and each has a specific geographic region in which to develop a reputation among high school coaches and eventually pipelines with HC. Over time their reputations precede them and they can move through the initial recruiting phase with alacrity. Also, coaches are promoted and retained partly by their success as recruiters, so this is something pursued with intense passion and purpose.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Apr 8, 2020 11:08:02 GMT -5
Of course they do. I would be worried if we HADN'T made so many offers. Would tell me our staff was well behind the Ivy and CAA schools in their evaluations. Clearly that's not the case and this staff, which has established how well they can recruit to HC over the last 2 uears, continues to do their job well.
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Post by breezy on Apr 8, 2020 11:31:08 GMT -5
Offer # 87 -- DB TYSON RUSSELL, 5-11, 170, St. Thomas Aquinas HS, Fort Lauderdale, FL. Rated 3* by both 247 Sports (84) and Rivals (5.5) Hudl: www.hudl.com/profile/9894834/Tyson-RussellOffers: Minnesota, Pitt, Vanderbilt, Maryland, NC State, Southern Miss, Missouri, Syracuse, UAB, FIU.
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Post by richh on Apr 8, 2020 11:31:18 GMT -5
As usual Crusaders are in front with the most offers. Lehigh and Bucknell close behind. The Hoyas and Rams. Pards seem a bit quiet. The shocker is Colgate. A few offers pre shutdown. Since then I can find no offers at all on social media.
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Post by dharry13 on Apr 8, 2020 11:44:51 GMT -5
Slight update - Russell is actually Offer #88. I had snuck in Offer #82 - Sincere Littles a page ago.
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Post by hc6774 on Apr 8, 2020 12:02:50 GMT -5
As usual Crusaders are in front with the most offers. Lehigh and Bucknell close behind. The Hoyas and Rams. Pards seem a bit quiet. The shocker is Colgate. A few offers pre shutdown. Since then I can find no offers at all on social media. maybe another thread is more appropriate but... any ideas what the 'offer' might be in these uncertain times? might the PL be looking at the level of athletic aid?
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Post by breezy on Apr 8, 2020 13:10:36 GMT -5
Slight update - Russell is actually Offer #88. I had snuck in Offer #82 - Sincere Littles a page ago. dharry13 -- I saw that, and then went back and re-numbered the subsequent offers. So, I think 87 is correct. But, if I missed something, just let me know.
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Post by dharry13 on Apr 8, 2020 13:21:36 GMT -5
Understood. Thx Breezy.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 8, 2020 14:01:34 GMT -5
As usual Crusaders are in front with the most offers. Lehigh and Bucknell close behind. The Hoyas and Rams. Pards seem a bit quiet. The shocker is Colgate. A few offers pre shutdown. Since then I can find no offers at all on social media. maybe another thread is more appropriate but... any ideas what the 'offer' might be in these uncertain times? might the PL be looking at the level of athletic aid? You have identified a potential conundrum. It will be awkward to be cutting and furloughing in academic and other co-curricular areas while leaving the football program untouched, especially if the season has to be cancelled. GU is less extended in FB than the rest of the league. How can you even load fifty players onto a bus together to drive to Merrimack if there is still any chance of community spread in early September?
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