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Post by rgs318 on Jul 28, 2020 16:57:39 GMT -5
Go for top recruits and this will happen more often than not...especially without the camps and visits to the Luth that help to sell our program. and the face-to-face meetings with our coaches. All of those things sell HC very well.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 28, 2020 17:26:56 GMT -5
Yes, I think HC is hurt more by the pandemic than most other programs when it comes to recruiting
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Post by dharry13 on Jul 28, 2020 18:24:01 GMT -5
Yah I’m not buying into that at all. I think they are all up against a difficult situation. I don’t see HCs any more difficult than others.
Need to start getting some verbals in the boat is the reality.
Regarding the first 165. IMO should get 8. That’s a 5% success rate.
Otherwise as Sarasota would say - why bother offering.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 28, 2020 20:49:16 GMT -5
Yah I’m not buying into that at all. I think they are all up against a difficult situation. I don’t see HCs any more difficult than others. Need to start getting some verbals in the boat is the reality. Regarding the first 165. IMO should get 8. That’s a 5% success rate. Otherwise as Sarasota would say - why bother offering. HC's situation is more difficult in my opinion because it is unable to showcase several features that otherwise give it an advantage over other schools: HC's campus, by any objective measure, is one of the prettiest in the country and recruits cannot easily visit it The Luth Center is a point of distinction versus almost all other schools and I have to think it is more impressive in person than on a video tour I believe that Bob Chesney is a charismatic and persuasive salesman for the program and is likely more charismatic and persuasive in person than on the phone
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Post by dharry13 on Jul 28, 2020 20:54:40 GMT -5
All of those could very well be true. But it’s the hand they are dealt and sound like excuses - some might call them reasons - I don’t. Don’t tell me how rough the water is - just bring the boat home.
So - to be fair their last two classes have been solid. Need a lot more to build perennial PL champion team. IMO
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Post by dharry13 on Jul 29, 2020 8:15:52 GMT -5
Offers 176 and 177
Sammy Knipe from PA - 6’1/220 LB/S Offers from 10-12 schools - Akron recently
Blane Cleaver from PA - 6’3/215 LB/TE Offers from about 12 schools
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 29, 2020 8:57:31 GMT -5
If HC has been deprived of things which give us a recruiting advantage such as camps, that are the same across the board (of course the HC campus is a plus there) it could be seen as an excuse. But if we are deprived of unique HC Srengths - showing off the Luth, and face-to-face meeting with men who are solid recruiters, that is a different kettle of fish (continuing the nautical analogy). Stating facts is not the "excuse" some may label it if it describes reality. IMHO, labeling something in reality as an excuse (1) demeans those who have observed it (in reality) and (2) dismisses real explanations for a situation in an offhanded manner. I hope these complications to this year's recruiting can be overcome by our coaches.
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Post by dharry13 on Jul 29, 2020 10:26:26 GMT -5
Not meant to be demeaning. More just a matter of opinion. I view them as excuses, you view them as reasons. No issue on my end. With that said it really doesn’t matter what we call them.
Matter of factly they need to get going on getting verbal commits. To me that component is irrefutable
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Post by HC92 on Jul 29, 2020 11:09:50 GMT -5
It’s probably in here somewhere but where are other PL schools with regard to verbals with respect to quantity and quality as judged by other reported offers?
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Post by efg72 on Jul 29, 2020 11:18:58 GMT -5
Given the PL decision on football, have any football assistant coaches been impacted by COVID cost reductions?
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Post by lou on Jul 29, 2020 12:05:12 GMT -5
Yah I’m not buying into that at all. I think they are all up against a difficult situation. I don’t see HCs any more difficult than others. Need to start getting some verbals in the boat is the reality. Regarding the first 165. IMO should get 8. That’s a 5% success rate. Otherwise as Sarasota would say - why bother offering. HC's situation is more difficult in my opinion because it is unable to showcase several features that otherwise give it an advantage over other schools: HC's campus, by any objective measure, is one of the prettiest in the country and recruits cannot easily visit it The Luth Center is a point of distinction versus almost all other schools and I have to think it is more impressive in person than on a video tour I believe that Bob Chesney is a charismatic and persuasive salesman for the program and is likely more charismatic and persuasive in person than on the phone Georgetown is Georgetown Fordham is NYC Never been to Colgate, but assume its very nice, especially during football season Lafayette is gorgeous, along with upgraded sports facilities Same for Lehigh, with impressive stadium So seems to me the recruiting issues are comparable in the PL
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Post by breezy on Jul 30, 2020 8:21:31 GMT -5
Offer # 178 -- LB DAVIS SHERWOOD, 6-4, 225, Peddie School, Hightstown, NJ Hudl: www.hudl.com/profile/8095704/Davis-SherwoodNumerous other offers: Army, Air Force, Navy, Harvard, Yale, Penn, Brown, Fordham, Georgetown, Lehigh, Lafayette, Kent State, Louisiana Monroe, Monmouth, and an few others.
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Post by dharry13 on Jul 30, 2020 15:57:01 GMT -5
Offer #170 to Villanova
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Post by timholycross on Jul 30, 2020 16:09:55 GMT -5
Who wants a football player named Irene anyway?
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Post by breezy on Jul 30, 2020 20:08:39 GMT -5
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Post by breezy on Jul 31, 2020 17:25:36 GMT -5
Offer # 180 -- DB MYLES NORWOOD, 6-2, 175, Trinity Catholic HS, St. Louis, MO Rated: 247 Sports -- 2* (77) Hudl: www.hudl.com/profile/10983755/Myles-NorwoodOther offers: Army, Navy, Austin Peay, Brown, Bucknell, Eastern Illinois, Eastern Michigan, Northern Iowa, Youngstown State, several others.
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Post by breezy on Aug 1, 2020 13:18:54 GMT -5
My recollection from prior years is that colleges can send official offers to next year's recruits as of August 1 of the current year.
One recruit (who has previously tweeted about getting an offer) has now tweeted about receiving an official offer from Holy Cross. (He also tweeted about official offers from Stony Brook, Bryant, and Fordham.)
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Post by dharry13 on Aug 1, 2020 14:31:31 GMT -5
Apparently they got a verbal commit today. Not sure who it is
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Post by dharry13 on Aug 1, 2020 14:59:16 GMT -5
Just guessing but maybe Kevin Gillis. He retweeted Scott James signal.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 1, 2020 20:53:37 GMT -5
If it is Kevin Gillis, here's a look at the workout stats on hudl. Could one of our football experts weigh in on these numbers for his position? To this non-expert they look pretty good . I do know that they may be self-reported and not measured by any authority.
Jersey #: 70 Positions: DT Height & Weight: 6'2" 270lbs 40 Yard Dash: 4.95 Shuttle: 4.46 Vertical: 33 Bench: 375 185 Bench (Reps): 26 Squat(LBS): 500 Deadlift(LBS): 550 Class of: 2021
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Post by hchoops on Aug 1, 2020 21:30:39 GMT -5
Well, certainly not a football guy, but a 270 pounder who has a 33” vertical is very impressive
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Post by hc2020 on Aug 3, 2020 10:53:24 GMT -5
It’s August 3rd and to my knowledge we only have one verbal commit. This time last year I believe we had most of our 2020 recruiting class locked up. Boy, have times changed. I wonder if HC will purposefully consider a smaller class this year given the lack of summer camp evaluations and with an expectation that the current roster might be granted an additional year of eligibility due to COVID with some considering a 5th year which includes a double major/minor designation.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 3, 2020 11:20:36 GMT -5
That is a good question. I wonder when HC will know what is going on and be able to set up a valid timeline for the program.
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Post by richh on Aug 3, 2020 13:03:57 GMT -5
It’s probably in here somewhere but where are other PL schools with regard to verbals with respect to quantity and quality as judged by other reported offers? Gate has 1 GU at least 1 a 3* QB Didnt see any others. Doesnt mean there arent tho. Lehigh. A transfer and 4 verbals Cross. Wilkinson. QB 6'3 215. WVa 3* from Toledo Matt. Rauscher. QB 6'1 200. Pa 4 offers Ivies. Local kid always coming to LU Connor. Lavelle. S 6'1 200. Pa 15 offers Academies Yale Dartmouth Penn UNH Blake. Hartman RB 6'0 215. WVa 15 offers Army Navy Harvard Penn Xavier Stephens. DE. 6'3 265. 19 offers Academies H Y P Penn Richmond Wofford Coastal Carolina Furman
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Post by dharry13 on Aug 3, 2020 13:12:56 GMT -5
HC has 2.
An OL with 2-3 other offers from NEC A DL (if I’m right) with no other offers
No contest so far
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