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Post by richh on Aug 31, 2020 9:05:44 GMT -5
I’d love to know how much the blanket extra year of eligibility for all current roster members factors into the 2021 recruiting mindset. Assuming several players in each of the current 2020-2024 classes will seek to play a fifth year, could the 2025 class be purposefully smaller than normal due to the expected surplus in fifth year eligible players on the current roster? Is there any relief on roster size for the extra year of eligibility? For example, an increase in the cap for the 2021 season from a max of 85 rostered players receiving merit fin aid to 100? The precise question for us is will the Council of Presidents relax the 60/90 caps. The extra year of eligibility will likey be granted if PL doesnt have Spring football.
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 31, 2020 10:22:03 GMT -5
Is there any relief on roster size for the extra year of eligibility? For example, an increase in the cap for the 2021 season from a max of 85 rostered players receiving merit fin aid to 100? The precise question for us is will the Council of Presidents relax the 60/90 caps. The extra year of eligibility will likey be granted if PL doesnt have Spring football. what would be the arguments to do it?
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Post by richh on Aug 31, 2020 13:44:29 GMT -5
The precise question for us is will the Council of Presidents relax the 60/90 caps. The extra year of eligibility will likey be granted if PL doesnt have Spring football. what would be the arguments to do it? Common decency at least. The Fall athletes should not be treated any differently than the Spring. If we have some sort of schedules in the Spring, the issue appears moot. Gilmore has been very clear he doesnt want players to lose a year of eligibility for a 6 game PL sched. He wants 8-9 games for the players.
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Post by dharry13 on Aug 31, 2020 14:59:08 GMT -5
Offer 191 Dylan Preston OLB/SS/RB. 6’1 195 Army, Navy, Ball State, Brown, Penn, Columbia
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 31, 2020 16:19:55 GMT -5
what would be the arguments to do it? Common decency at least. The Fall athletes should not be treated any differently than the Spring. If we have some sort of schedules in the Spring, the issue appears moot. Gilmore has been very clear he doesnt want players to lose a year of eligibility for a 6 game PL sched. He wants 8-9 games for the players. my thought re spring football... why would they with this Covid waiver? one reason is because it allows some seniors to play in the spring & graduate on time & others to play in the fall ... but that would put unfair physical demands on the rest of the roster; unless the expand the roster in the fall... but that's doubtful for economical reasons. so you have spring practice with no seniors & you bring back a few Covid red shirt/seniors in the fall so that you can recruit a '21 freshman class without increasing schollies or roster size.
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Post by richh on Aug 31, 2020 16:44:15 GMT -5
I really dont see how expanding the roster results in a significant rise in costs for the school. It doesnt change our cap of 60 over 85 recruited players. It may add some equipment and insurance costs minimally. W0s actually make money for the school. Any financial aid would have to be the same available to every other student. Pre schollie PL rosters were all well over 100. We didnt go broke. Scan NEC rosters. Most are over 110. Adjusting to the necessities of the pandemic is not insurmountable.
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Post by breezy on Aug 31, 2020 19:51:33 GMT -5
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Post by hc6774 on Sept 1, 2020 8:32:49 GMT -5
I really dont see how expanding the roster results in a significant rise in costs for the school. It doesnt change our cap of 60 over 85 recruited players. It may add some equipment and insurance costs minimally. generally agree, so the question is why 90 in the first place; title 9?; some concerns about diluting academic standards? W0s actually make money for the school. don't lose money? Any financial aid would have to be the same available to every other student. are there any 'need' blind' PL schools? Pre schollie PL rosters were all well over 100. We didnt go broke. Scan NEC rosters. Most are over 110. like the idea of increased roster size; HC has 95 now Adjusting to the necessities of the pandemic is not insurmountable. Is a spring schedule followed by a fall schedule such a necessity? probably not... but interesting the Coach Gilmore not interested playing in spring just for PL title.
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Post by richh on Sept 1, 2020 9:14:16 GMT -5
Good points. As to Gilmore. He made it clear during a lenghty radio interview that his focus was on what was best for his players.A PL sched would at least give his seniors a last shot at a title. We have 17 srs on a roster of 91. A few may have a 5th yr possibility but most will graduate on time.The rest of the squad will use a full year of eligibility unless PL were to allow current players to use the NCAA 4 game exception. His point I think is that if PL is going to play let teams get some OOC games also. There are 9/10 possible Saturdays. He wants to use them.
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Post by richh on Sept 1, 2020 9:23:42 GMT -5
Forgot. NCAA FCS committee has recommended 4/18 to 5/15 for a 16 team playoff.Does leave ample time for an 8/9 game schedule.
Huge caveat is we dont know whether any ball will even be possible. Will flu season be as mild as scientists say may happen given that early outbreaks have been mild. Or will the confluence of COVID and the flu ehance the impact of both. Will there be a vaccine widely available in time?
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Post by breezy on Sept 1, 2020 11:20:27 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 1, 2020 12:35:43 GMT -5
Forgot. NCAA FCS committee has recommended 4/18 to 5/15 for a 16 team playoff.Does leave ample time for an 8/9 game schedule. Huge caveat is we dont know whether any ball will even be possible. Will flu season be as mild as scientists say may happen given that early outbreaks have been mild. Or will the confluence of COVID and the flu ehance the impact of both. Will there be a vaccine widely available in time? A February 20-April 10 season is eight Saturdays. I very much doubt the PL is going to be enthusiastic about participating in FCS playoffs because May is final exams and commencement. And the question is whether PL teams, other than HC, can be ready to play when trying to practice during the traditionally six worst weeks of winter (upstate NY; rural, hilly PA; urban interior, hilly MA). Luth is an unfair advantage for HC. And Georgetown won't have a complete team back on campus, based on its current plans for spring semester.
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 1, 2020 12:48:29 GMT -5
Sorry to opine that spring ball will simply not work - our next game will most probably be at UConn Sep 4
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Post by hc6774 on Sept 1, 2020 13:08:48 GMT -5
Forgot. NCAA FCS committee has recommended 4/18 to 5/15 for a 16 team playoff.Does leave ample time for an 8/9 game schedule. Huge caveat is we dont know whether any ball will even be possible. Will flu season be as mild as scientists say may happen given that early outbreaks have been mild. Or will the confluence of COVID and the flu ehance the impact of both. Will there be a vaccine widely available in time? Just got off Zoom meeting with discussion group based in NJ... The doc in the group reported that the flu season in Brazil is showing that flu vaccine seems to have 'positive impact' on Covid situation; i.e. make sure you get flu shot; also talked about British Covid vaccine very positively; risk seems to be the unknown long term effects... worth the risk for elderly docs... maybe not so much for younger ones.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 1, 2020 15:15:36 GMT -5
Forgot. NCAA FCS committee has recommended 4/18 to 5/15 for a 16 team playoff.Does leave ample time for an 8/9 game schedule. Huge caveat is we dont know whether any ball will even be possible. Will flu season be as mild as scientists say may happen given that early outbreaks have been mild. Or will the confluence of COVID and the flu ehance the impact of both. Will there be a vaccine widely available in time? Just got off Zoom meeting with discussion group based in NJ... The doc in the group reported that the flu season in Brazil is showing that flu vaccine seems to have 'positive impact' on Covid situation; i.e. make sure you get flu shot; also talked about British Covid vaccine very positively; risk seems to be the unknown long term effects... worth the risk for elderly docs... maybe not so much for younger ones. Just elderly docs, not other elderly non docs ?
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Post by dharry13 on Sept 2, 2020 20:53:39 GMT -5
Jourdain to Yale
Continue to strike out on DL
193 offers. 59 remain uncommitted. 7 verbals which includes 1 transfer who is listed in the Soph class
17 verbals at this time last year
Early signing day still in Dec like always.
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Post by richh on Sept 3, 2020 11:46:54 GMT -5
Forgot. NCAA FCS committee has recommended 4/18 to 5/15 for a 16 team playoff.Does leave ample time for an 8/9 game schedule. Huge caveat is we dont know whether any ball will even be possible. Will flu season be as mild as scientists say may happen given that early outbreaks have been mild. Or will the confluence of COVID and the flu ehance the impact of both. Will there be a vaccine widely available in time? Just got off Zoom meeting with discussion group based in NJ... The doc in the group reported that the flu season in Brazil is showing that flu vaccine seems to have 'positive impact' on Covid situation; i.e. make sure you get flu shot; also talked about British Covid vaccine very positively; risk seems to be the unknown long term effects... worth the risk for elderly docs... maybe not so much for younger ones. PSU Med.Director reported on Monday that 30-35% of the players tested have myocarditis.The usual recommendation for athletes with this is to take a 3 month break from high intensity exercise.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 3, 2020 12:01:38 GMT -5
That is very serious But some Big 10 fan bases continue to want to play Seems as if the Big 10 made the correct decision
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 3, 2020 14:27:12 GMT -5
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Post by breezy on Sept 3, 2020 17:16:05 GMT -5
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Post by dharry13 on Sept 4, 2020 12:26:53 GMT -5
Offer 195 Kaleb Tompkins from TX 6’4 250 DT/DE Offers from Lafayette, Northern Colorado, Morehead State, Abilene Christian, NW State, East Central State (D2)
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Post by bison137 on Sept 4, 2020 16:54:43 GMT -5
PSU Med.Director reported on Monday that 30-35% of the players tested have myocarditis.The usual recommendation for athletes with this is to take a 3 month break from high intensity exercise. unfortunately it turned out that he was using thirdhand anecdotal evidence that was inaccurate, and PSU has issued an apology. The preliminary findings of a study he heard about but had no involvement in, actually said the rate was much lower. Penn State Actually has had no incidents of myocarditis at all. Also thus far no NFL player has shown any evidence of having it. It is obviously something to keep an eye on, but thus far not the big issue some assumed.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 4, 2020 19:50:42 GMT -5
PSU Med.Director reported on Monday that 30-35% of the players tested have myocarditis.The usual recommendation for athletes with this is to take a 3 month break from high intensity exercise. unfortunately it turned out that he was using thirdhand anecdotal evidence that was inaccurate, and PSU has issued an apology. The preliminary findings of a study he heard about but had no involvement in, actually said the rate was much lower. Penn State Actually has had no incidents of myocarditis at all. Also thus far no NFL player has shown any evidence of having it. It is obviously something to keep an eye on, but thus far not the big issue some assumed. Thanks. My heart rate elevated when I read the 30-35%. I don't see how any college football could be played if the rate of getting myocarditis was that high.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 5, 2020 5:17:40 GMT -5
unfortunately it turned out that he was using thirdhand anecdotal evidence that was inaccurate, and PSU has issued an apology. The preliminary findings of a study he heard about but had no involvement in, actually said the rate was much lower. Penn State Actually has had no incidents of myocarditis at all. Also thus far no NFL player has shown any evidence of having it. It is obviously something to keep an eye on, but thus far not the big issue some assumed. Thanks. My heart rate elevated when I read the 30-35%. I don't see how any college football could be played if the rate of getting myocarditis was that high. This is discussed in the Big Ten thread. The correct percentage is 15 percent. The Big Ten thread also has a post referencing a report from Stat news that a German study of 100 COVID cases, (some old, some young) found that about 40 percent had heart damage.
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Post by richh on Sept 5, 2020 8:48:00 GMT -5
PSU Med.Director reported on Monday that 30-35% of the players tested have myocarditis.The usual recommendation for athletes with this is to take a 3 month break from high intensity exercise. unfortunately it turned out that he was using thirdhand anecdotal evidence that was inaccurate, and PSU has issued an apology. The preliminary findings of a study he heard about but had no involvement in, actually said the rate was much lower. Penn State Actually has had no incidents of myocarditis at all. Also thus far no NFL player has shown any evidence of having it. It is obviously something to keep an eye on, but thus far not the big issue some assumed. Thanks 137. Caught PSU announcement this AM. A sigh of relief.A factor to watch for but not one that should bar football.
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