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Post by dietpepsi on Mar 11, 2020 14:55:06 GMT -5
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Post by WCHC Sports on Mar 11, 2020 14:57:33 GMT -5
This is getting to be a bit overkill/crazy.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 11, 2020 15:09:38 GMT -5
The nation is in full panic mode now
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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 11, 2020 15:11:05 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Mar 11, 2020 15:20:19 GMT -5
Cancelling all high school spring sports makes the same amount of (non)sense. Could that be next? (Note, attendance at the outdoor high school spring games in my vicinity cannot be classified as crowds by any reasonable person...assume that is the same for many outdoor college practices and games...common sense has left the building.)
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 11, 2020 15:24:44 GMT -5
Because a late March baseball game in Williamstown, MA is a without-a-doubt absolute breeding ground for the spread of an epidemic. This has been blown well beyond out of proportion. |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 11, 2020 15:32:30 GMT -5
This is pretty pathetic.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 11, 2020 17:10:03 GMT -5
Did any of you listen to Dr. Fauci today before Congress ?
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Post by timholycross on Mar 11, 2020 19:53:09 GMT -5
Didn't Dr. Fauci talk about crowds? What crowds go to high school sporting events in New England. I'll grant you volleyball because it's inside maybe they skip, but that's it.
I am a USSF referee. I am working at tournaments this weekend and next. They are the equivalent of high school games. No one is crowded into a small space. No handshakes. I don't feel unsafe in any way.
Hopefully, those that run the tournaments have the same philosophy.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 11, 2020 20:53:27 GMT -5
The COVID 19 situation has obviously escalated (at least perception-wise) exponentially over the past 24 hours.
The public and official reactions to the pandemic have exceeded just about everyone's wildest imaginations as it seems the world is in lockdown mode. I am one of those who has been considerably skeptical of the scale of these reactions. After today, I don't know what to think other than to hope that our country in particular manages to get through this as unscathed as possible. Maybe the drastic reactions are appropriate considering the threat? All we can do is defer to the health experts and follow the advice we are given.
Praying that everyone on Crossports and our loved ones stay healthy and sane through all of this!!
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Mar 11, 2020 20:54:06 GMT -5
Dr. Fauci testifying today: "It is going to get worse"; "We would recommend that there not be large crowds".
I think I'm going to trust him more than some of the posters, supra.
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Post by matunuck on Mar 11, 2020 21:25:49 GMT -5
If anything, we’ve been too slow and way behind the curve as a nation. Fauci has stated many times that you must get ahead of the curve early on to avoid a massive problem down the line. Some of the statements on this board regarding this major health threat are stunning.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 12, 2020 4:07:16 GMT -5
Dr. Fauci testifying today: "It is going to get worse"; "We would recommend that there not be large crowds". I think I'm going to trust him more than some of the posters, supra. To be fair I haven't seen any poster (or anyone) suggest US numbers of infected and dead are not going to be worse and HC fans know our (possibly cancelled) spring sports do/did not have large crowds.
As far as college and pro sports go, the trend is evident and can certainly be justified as getting ahead of the disease. Ditto for the immediate closure of every University and College campus here in the US. And an unlimited host of other measures...
(Since the China travel restrictions went into effect 41 days ago, a total of 38 folks have died here in the US from Coronavirus...over half of them associated with the same small Washington State nursing home.)
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Post by WCHC Sports on Mar 12, 2020 10:16:43 GMT -5
How many have died from "traditional" flu? Which is also a type of coronavirus? How many have any of the strains, and are asymptomatic, fortunately?
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Post by timholycross on Mar 12, 2020 16:40:36 GMT -5
At this point, let's just try and do everything we can to get our country through this.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 13, 2020 5:58:08 GMT -5
Bigger issues at forefront nationally right now but wouldn't all athletes playing a spring sport that got cancelled receive an extra year of eligibility?
Unfortunately tough luck for guys like Max Mahoney and co. who won the PL this year but will never get to taste March Madness.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 13, 2020 7:59:04 GMT -5
Interesting but since classes are continuing and the spring sport HC seniors are graduating (barring a severe academic hiccup) I'd guess we are not going to see them playing for us again.
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Post by Ray on Mar 13, 2020 8:39:35 GMT -5
How many have died from "traditional" flu? Which is also a type of coronavirus? How many have any of the strains, and are asymptomatic, fortunately? Stop comparing this to the "traditional" flu. It's among the worst misconceptions you can propagate. COVID-19 is 10 times as lethal as the flu. Listen to Dr. Fauci. |
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Post by timholycross on Mar 13, 2020 9:57:01 GMT -5
Yes, per case of coronavirus vis-a-vis traditional flu. You're 100% right, Ray.
How many die from this epidemic in the US, hopefully, will not be 10 times the number of flu deaths. But, if things don't break right, it certainly could be.
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Post by Ray on Mar 13, 2020 10:16:05 GMT -5
But, if things don't break right, it certainly could be. Not to nitpick, but "If things don't break right" makes it sound like we as citizens don't have agency in this. We do! That's why you see the wave of cancellations, school closings, etc. It's UP TO EACH OF US to try and achieve the best possible outcome. For sure, this is devastating for HC seniors, for college athletes in general (sticking to the theme of this board), and so many more.... but it's much less painful than literally seeing COVID-19 spread on the level of the flu and demonstrate that it really is 10x as lethal. |
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Post by WCHC Sports on Mar 13, 2020 10:17:17 GMT -5
How many have died from "traditional" flu? Which is also a type of coronavirus? How many have any of the strains, and are asymptomatic, fortunately? Stop comparing this to the "traditional" flu. It's among the worst misconceptions you can propagate. COVID-19 is 10 times as lethal as the flu. Listen to Dr. Fauci. Heard or read nothing to indicate that is the case. If it truly is, forgive my ignorance. Anything I had heard on that front indicated that only the most-sick were going to the hospitals, or needed to go for urgent care, and thus skewed the numbers. Healthy people who recovered in days, or were asymptomatic outright, don't go in for testing, never show up as a positive test, and thus don't look like non-lethal cases in the reported figures. |
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Post by Ray on Mar 13, 2020 10:46:28 GMT -5
Stop comparing this to the "traditional" flu. It's among the worst misconceptions you can propagate. COVID-19 is 10 times as lethal as the flu. Listen to Dr. Fauci. Heard or read nothing to indicate that is the case. If it truly is, forgive my ignorance. Anything I had heard on that front indicated that only the most-sick were going to the hospitals, or needed to go for urgent care, and thus skewed the numbers. Healthy people who recovered in days, or were asymptomatic outright, don't go in for testing, never show up as a positive test, and thus don't look like non-lethal cases in the reported figures.
Sounds to me like you need some new information sources. I don't mean to sound alarmist (well actually I do), but ignorance is simply not an excuse. Ignorance will quite literally get people killed. Get educated.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Mar 13, 2020 11:08:07 GMT -5
Given the odds, I don't think that my understanding, or lack thereof, has an impact on nearly anyone. My company is still making me go into work, in NYC, and I take mass transit to get there. The only difference in my life is that the grocery stores are a bit more barren (get them delivered anyway, safer too) and fewer of my clients themselves are working. That, and there are no sports on TV. As is the case with this, or any illness... if you are immunocompromised, if you are already ill, or if you have pre-existing conditions, you have to take actions to mitigate the impact on your health. Common sense prevails across the board whether the numbers are .01, .1, 1, or 10 percent fatality +.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 13, 2020 11:31:07 GMT -5
Heard or read nothing to indicate that is the case. If it truly is, forgive my ignorance. Anything I had heard on that front indicated that only the most-sick were going to the hospitals, or needed to go for urgent care, and thus skewed the numbers. Healthy people who recovered in days, or were asymptomatic outright, don't go in for testing, never show up as a positive test, and thus don't look like non-lethal cases in the reported figures.
Sounds to me like you need some new information sources. I don't mean to sound alarmist (well actually I do), but ignorance is simply not an excuse. Ignorance will quite literally get people killed. Get educated.
There is no doubt Dr. Fauci has publicly noted his belief that lethality will be 10 times greater with this new Corona virus than the seasonal flu (ordinarily pegged at .1 and ordinarily kills about 20K Americans). Obviously this 1% mortality prediction could be on or off target and just as obviously he was not suggesting 200,000 Americans would die from Coronavirus. Some countries have found the mortality to be substantially lower (South Korea and Germany) and some substantially higher (Italy) than 1%. |
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Post by Ray on Mar 13, 2020 11:33:37 GMT -5
As is the case with this, or any illness... if you are immunocompromised, if you are already ill, or if you have pre-existing conditions, you have to take actions to mitigate the impact on your health. Common sense prevails across the board whether the numbers are .01, .1, 1, or 10 percent fatality +. Sorry, but I'm not letting this go. The responsibility is not solely on the immunocompromised to protect themselves. It's on all of us to do our part to protect them, and each other. Wash your hands, practice social distancing, consider skipping non-essential activities whether you feel healthy or not. |
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