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Post by hchoops on Mar 14, 2020 9:25:17 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on Mar 14, 2020 9:31:33 GMT -5
NCAA announced yesterday it is likely to grant a 5th year to seniors who played/were to play this spring
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Post by ts1970 on Mar 14, 2020 9:44:16 GMT -5
Would Clayton L. be eligible to return then? Maybe not, as he did not miss any games due to the corona virus truncated season.
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 14, 2020 9:47:39 GMT -5
I don't think I agree with giving the basketball seniors another year because their conference tournaments and ncaa were not played - what about all the excellent seniors whose season had already ended ? so they can't come back and this extra year is reserved only for the seniors on the best teams whose seasons didn't end ? doesn't seem right to me
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Post by HC92 on Mar 14, 2020 9:48:25 GMT -5
Would Clayton L. be eligible to return then? Should be spring athletes only. Would seem to definitely help certain schools and hurt others, particularly the ones that don’t have graduate programs. |
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Post by purplepig on Mar 14, 2020 9:53:54 GMT -5
This is not what college is about. The season is lost and over. Move on with your lives.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 14, 2020 9:59:52 GMT -5
I don't think I agree with giving the basketball seniors another year because their conference tournaments and ncaa were not played - what about all the excellent seniors whose season had already ended ? so they can't come back and this extra year is reserved only for the seniors on the best teams whose seasons didn't end ? doesn't seem right to me I believe that those who support this plan mean it for all seniors, not just those who missed the conference and NCAA tourneys certainly would not help HC if Nelson, Mahoney et. al. Could play another year. Of course, the PL could say no, even if the NCAA allows it |
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Post by hc6774 on Mar 14, 2020 10:00:29 GMT -5
I think the goal of institutions is to get back to 'normal' ['new' normal perhaps] & try to compensated the disadvantaged as best they can, but not likely the compensation would be 'normal'.
so what happens to the roster size/scholarship allocations next season? 14, 16, 17+ scholarship players? would it be a normal season?
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Post by trimster on Mar 14, 2020 10:55:03 GMT -5
NCAA announced yesterday it is likely to grant a 5th year to seniors who played/were to play this spring I would hope they are talking spring sports only but common sense and the NCAA don’t always go hand in hand. |
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 14, 2020 11:00:16 GMT -5
I think the goal of institutions is to get back to 'normal' ['new' normal perhaps] & try to compensated the disadvantaged as best they can, but not likely the compensation would be 'normal'. so what happens to the roster size/scholarship allocations next season? 14, 16, 17+ scholarship players? would it be a normal season? Colleges will be glad to borrow more to fund extra scholarships after they borrow to make refunds on room and board fees. There won't be any increased demand on regular financial aid next year like there was in the recession, and no students will become comfortable with distance learning and transfer to a cheaper online school to finish their degree, so there is plenty of money for universal fifth years...not. I see potential for coronavirus to hasten a popping of the higher education bubble. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 14, 2020 11:18:28 GMT -5
I think the goal of institutions is to get back to 'normal' ['new' normal perhaps] & try to compensated the disadvantaged as best they can, but not likely the compensation would be 'normal'. so what happens to the roster size/scholarship allocations next season? 14, 16, 17+ scholarship players? would it be a normal season? Colleges will be glad to borrow more to fund extra scholarships after they borrow to make refunds on room and board fees. There won't be any increased demand on regular financial aid next year like there was in the recession, and no students will become comfortable with distance learning and transfer to a cheaper online school to finish their degree, so there is plenty of money for universal fifth years...not. I see potential for coronavirus to hasten a popping of the higher education bubble.You may be right. If anything, it further proves that tuition goes to pay, not for the quality of in-class instruction and tutoring, but for the institutional name on the diploma. This isn't new -- everyone who attended Holy Cross or any NESCAC school knows they received a more rigorous, higher-quality undergraduate education than they would have received at Harvard or Princeton. However, NOW I believe a lot of parents paying a full tuition bill for Spring 2020 will start to question whether it's really worth it to send their next child to a private four-year college. Students' (and their parents) are currently paying through the nose for the equivalent of a U. of Phoenix education. Why pay 30K a semester for an education you could receive on YouTube for free? Some colleges are nominally keeping dorms open even though students are leaving in droves. Reason: so they can respond to angry parents with the "shrug" emoji when they come asking for R&B refunds. |
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Post by hc6774 on Mar 14, 2020 11:20:00 GMT -5
I think the goal of institutions is to get back to 'normal' ['new' normal perhaps] & try to compensated the disadvantaged as best they can, but not likely the compensation would be 'normal'. so what happens to the roster size/scholarship allocations next season? 14, 16, 17+ scholarship players? would it be a normal season? Colleges will be glad to borrow more to fund extra scholarships after they borrow to make refunds on room and board fees. There won't be any increased demand on regular financial aid next year like there was in the recession, and no students will become comfortable with distance learning and transfer to a cheaper online school to finish their degree, so there is plenty of money for universal fifth years...not. I see potential for coronavirus to hasten a popping of the higher education bubble. It's not just a question of funding... what 'missed college experiences' should the institution provide compensations to students. graduation ceremonies et al? A student submits a psychology research paper & is selected present the paper at an academic conference in Boston this weekend. The conference is canceled. Should she be compensated for the missed experience? How would you measure it? Is it different from missing the experience of March Madness?. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 14, 2020 11:27:36 GMT -5
Colleges will be glad to borrow more to fund extra scholarships after they borrow to make refunds on room and board fees. There won't be any increased demand on regular financial aid next year like there was in the recession, and no students will become comfortable with distance learning and transfer to a cheaper online school to finish their degree, so there is plenty of money for universal fifth years...not. I see potential for coronavirus to hasten a popping of the higher education bubble. It's not just a question of funding... what 'missed college experiences' should the institution provide compensations to students. graduation ceremonies et al? A student submits a psychology research paper & is selected present the paper at an academic conference in Boston this weekend. The conference is canceled. Should she be compensated for the missed experience? How would you measure it? Is it different from missing the experience of March Madness?. The short answer is no. Unless these schools begin to become pressed legally by well-heeled parents, they will be giving nothing back. A school like Holy Cross who shut down the dorms will likely provide a PRO-RATED refund for spring room & board and also likely credit back unused dining dollars and Crusader bucks. Other than that zilch unless graduation fees and athletic fees are itemized on the bill which I no longer recall. |
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 14, 2020 11:31:49 GMT -5
Colleges will be glad to borrow more to fund extra scholarships after they borrow to make refunds on room and board fees. There won't be any increased demand on regular financial aid next year like there was in the recession, and no students will become comfortable with distance learning and transfer to a cheaper online school to finish their degree, so there is plenty of money for universal fifth years...not. I see potential for coronavirus to hasten a popping of the higher education bubble. It's not just a question of funding... what 'missed college experiences' should the institution provide compensations to students. graduation ceremonies et al? A student submits a psychology research paper & is selected present the paper at an academic conference in Boston this weekend. The conference is canceled. Should she be compensated for the missed experience? How would you measure it? Is it different from missing the experience of March Madness?. The employees of the conference center the hypothetical academic conference was scheduled at will need more financial aid for their kids in September. All conferences are cancelled for the duration and employees are laid off. |
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 14, 2020 11:35:10 GMT -5
What's a good time estimate for "the duration" for social distancing requiring mass closures?
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Post by timholycross on Mar 14, 2020 14:10:23 GMT -5
Given the school is for the most part empty for a good 7-8 weeks, I would think that once the crisis is over (I don't think that's overly optimistic) there will be some sort of graduation weekend.
Class reunions too, maybe; I guess if they got put off until the fall they could work around that vacation week somehow.
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Post by Tom on Mar 14, 2020 16:13:41 GMT -5
Given the school is for the most part empty for a good 7-8 weeks, I would think that once the crisis is over (I don't think that's overly optimistic) there will be some sort of graduation weekend. Class reunions too, maybe; I guess if they got put off until the fall they could work around that vacation week somehow. I don't think anyone has thought that far ahead yet. They're still trying to figure out how to do remote learning. Once the immediate concerns are taken care of, TPTB will start looking forward. |
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Post by timholycross on Mar 14, 2020 16:27:50 GMT -5
In terms of granting another year of eligibility for basketball players, it would only work if one had to play for the same school or no school at all.
Otherwise, think of all the all star teams that would spring up.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 14, 2020 18:17:30 GMT -5
How does one play college ball playing for "no school at all?"
If you are not in a college, why would an extra year of eligibility matter?
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Post by timholycross on Mar 14, 2020 18:33:16 GMT -5
I meant that if you got another year of eligibility but you didn't have to stay at the college* you were at, it would be the transfer portal on steroids.
*I guess also if the college you were at didn't consider you eligible any more, you could still go elsewhere. Which is something under that scenario a league like the Patriot League might do. You graduated, that's it.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 14, 2020 18:58:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation. I appreciate it.
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