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Post by bringbackcaro on May 26, 2020 16:15:01 GMT -5
Men and women in the US military deployed and fighting around the world, and their loved ones who are at home -- impossible situation
Doctors and nurses working double shifts to help patients with COVID-19 -- impossible situation
People losing their jobs due to COVID, at no fault of their own, with bills to pay and families to support -- impossible situation
$288K+ scholarship to the College of the Holy Cross -- not an impossible situation
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Post by dadominate on May 26, 2020 16:42:00 GMT -5
Men and women in the US military deployed and fighting around the world, and their loved ones who are at home -- impossible situation Doctors and nurses working double shifts to help patients with COVID-19 -- impossible situation People losing their jobs due to COVID, at no fault of their own, with bills to pay and families to support -- impossible situation $288K+ scholarship to the College of the Holy Cross -- not an impossible situation reading your posts with a straight face -- impossible situation best wishes to druzi (and all other hc players, past and present)
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Post by gocrossgo on May 26, 2020 16:58:32 GMT -5
Best of luck to you Drew. Didn’t by any means mean to make a scene by sending the information, just thought it would be wanted by a few. And just so all know, most all recruits throughout football and basketball set specific times they’ll be committing, it’s nothing fancy. They have their reasons.
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Post by hcpride on May 26, 2020 17:28:25 GMT -5
The other team I follow, Stony Brook, is also being smacked around by transfers. If you call six players including the top three scorers leaving a popular coach and a pretty good America East ( 20-13) team being smacked around. While two are grad transfers it is still a big loss. One undergrad, Miles Latimer (edged out of a starting role at SBU) is transferring to Bucknell and another (the star) is heading to Miami. So, we are certainly not alone.
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Post by efg72 on May 26, 2020 17:37:34 GMT -5
When you hire someone or recruit someone you welcome them with joy and respect, when they depart you do the same-not a heavy lift and given we are men and women for others this is not a lift at all.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on May 26, 2020 17:38:29 GMT -5
I'm waiting on the edge of my seat for this announcement... not.
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Post by gocrossgo on May 26, 2020 17:49:58 GMT -5
Then don’t watch it.
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Post by longsuffering on May 26, 2020 17:50:16 GMT -5
Best of luck Drew. "To thine own self be true" -Polonius in Shakespeare's Hamlet.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 26, 2020 17:54:46 GMT -5
I do not care at all what you guys say or have said about me, but I will inform you that the team looks at this thread often, and some are effected negatively by what is said, so to the people who contribute positively thank you! To the rest, I’m glad that you feel some type of fulfillment by talking down on kids that work hard to make the best out of being placed into an impossible situation. I hope you figure out what is actually bothering you in life so you don’t take it out on any of my lifelong brothers that are staying at HC because we tried our best and I can promise you that!!! -druzi I actually think it's pretty remarkable that Holy Cross has a fan base that will generate 20+ pages discussing the "Transfer Portal" given the 3-29 season the program just had, which followed such a disastrous past decade for the program. Once this board begins to have a dearth of posters and discussion, we will know that this program is not even cared about by the few who are even left. It's hard to keep things all smiles with coaches coming and going, players going through the program like it's a tunstile (kicked off or transferring), and loss after loss piling up. In the grand scheme of things, this is an incredibly tame and well-mannered message board. To quote Dan Hawkins: ""It's Division I football! It's the Big 12! It ain't intramurals!"
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Post by bringbackcaro on May 26, 2020 18:21:27 GMT -5
If Pridgen and Lowder both end up in P5 conferences, then that'll be a big indictment on Nelson. I don't care what Bring Back says about "culture" and that losing Lowder is addition by subtraction because he may have been a bad apple. Nelson isn't getting an offensive talent like Lowder anytime soon, so it would have been nice for him to have found a way to make it work. Perhaps we are seeing blemishes of Nelson's ability to manage talent and personalities in his first go-around as a head coach. 1) Lowder is not going to end up at a P5 school, and Pridgen also likely will not. 2) Interesting that you can see into the future. 3) Or perhaps Lowder just didn't want to fit into the program that Nelson is building and Nelson decided that an undersized, injury-prone, shoot-first, defense-last PG was not worth building the program around, and Pridgen was collateral damage for roster turnover that was essential for getting this program back on track. 1) Lowder is not going to end up at a P5 school, and Pridgen also likely will not. 2) Interesting that you can see into the future. 3) Or perhaps Lowder just didn't want to fit into the program that Nelson is building and Nelson decided that an undersized, injury-prone, shoot-first, defense-last PG was not worth building the program around, and Pridgen was collateral damage for roster turnover that was essential for getting this program back on track. BBC if speculation by other college coaches proves correct, Lowder very well might end up in a P5 conference, and of course he might not. My guess is Lowder and Pridgen end up a level or two above where they were with us. Regardless of their decisions, life will go forward for all involved. Nobody knows why the players departed, but it certainly was not a step toward building a winning culture. It would, however, promote degrees of disfunction for any team or program. I am looking forward to the leadership coming from Butler, Faw, Wade and Reilly next season, and hope the seven or more new players are terrific! We will need four or five of them to produce immediately. There are a range of excuses, or passes granted for the coaching performance this past season, and while I am not buying any of them, for the moment let's agree to your position. I have my fingers crossed Nelson matures as a bench coach next season, because if his ability to coach a game is similar to last season his development is an absolute necessity. As I was told by the great story teller Lefty Driesell at Bethany Beach in the early 90's-- I always wanted to have the best players, but it was not always easy to coach better talent. Nearly thirty years later I don't think that has changed. 1) Lowder is not going to end up at a P5 school, and Pridgen also likely will not.
2) Interesting that you can see into the future. the depths of self-contradiction and hypocrisy from our resident hoops scholar are getting more and more amusing ! this reminds me of how assured hc70, the bbc of the milan brown era, was that rj evans would only garner interest from low/mid-majors prior to his transfer to and graduation from uconn. it would not at all surprise me to see lowder and pridgen transfer "up" (at least in terms of basketball prowess) from hc as they are two exceptional basketball players for freshmen at our level. while not as much of an impact player at hc as either lowder and pridgen, niego is another solid player whose loss will be another program's gain. i am hopeful that we are replacing them with equal or better talent, but it is certainly not a sure thing. The three amigos were 0-3 on gauging Pridgen’s interest on the open market, and despite the Jon Rothstein tweets about supposed interest from Ole Miss, Memphis, BYU, etc. Lowder ends up at Eastern Michigan. Another reset on where Nelson transfers have ended up:: *Eastern Michigan *UNC Wilmington *St. Francis * Union * Miami Dade Community College Still not exactly murderer’s row.
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Post by timholycross on May 26, 2020 19:04:36 GMT -5
I do not care at all what you guys say or have said about me, but I will inform you that the team looks at this thread often, and some are effected negatively by what is said, so to the people who contribute positively thank you! To the rest, I’m glad that you feel some type of fulfillment by talking down on kids that work hard to make the best out of being placed into an impossible situation. I hope you figure out what is actually bothering you in life so you don’t take it out on any of my lifelong brothers that are staying at HC because we tried our best and I can promise you that!!! -druzi I read ahead- good luck at Eastern Michigan!
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Post by hchoops on May 26, 2020 19:05:31 GMT -5
The MAC has 12 teams and has become a 1 bid conference
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Post by bison137 on May 26, 2020 19:36:35 GMT -5
The MAC has 12 teams and has become a 1 bid conference The MAC became a one bid conference a couple of decades ago. They haven't had two teams in the tournament for over 20 years. In recent years, the MAC typically ranks around #12 in conference rankings.
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Post by bison137 on May 26, 2020 19:46:52 GMT -5
The other team I follow, Stony Brook, is also being smacked around by transfers. If you call six players including the top three scorers leaving a popular coach and a pretty good America East ( 20-13) team being smacked around. While two are grad transfers it is still a big loss. One undergrad, Miles Latimer (edged out of a starting role at SBU) is transferring to Bucknell and another (the star) is heading to Miami. So, we are certainly not alone. Given how many players transferred out, do you think Ford is a "popular" coach. Feelings seem pretty mixed about that among SB fans. With no transfers, I think it's pretty certain they would have been the AE preseason favorite. You mention that one of their stars ended up at Miami. As I'm sure you know, two others ended up at Cal and Georgia. Latimer didn't start the last four games, but he did average 28 mpg during that time - more than two of the starters.
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Post by billyball on May 26, 2020 20:24:23 GMT -5
Lowder: Eastern Michigan
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Post by hcpride on May 26, 2020 21:27:45 GMT -5
The other team I follow, Stony Brook, is also being smacked around by transfers. If you call six players including the top three scorers leaving a popular coach and a pretty good America East ( 20-13) team being smacked around. While two are grad transfers it is still a big loss. One undergrad, Miles Latimer (edged out of a starting role at SBU) is transferring to Bucknell and another (the star) is heading to Miami. So, we are certainly not alone. Given how many players transferred out, do you think Ford is a "popular" coach. Feelings seem pretty mixed about that among SB fans. With no transfers, I think it's pretty certain they would have been the AE preseason favorite. You mention that one of their stars ended up at Miami. As I'm sure you know, two others ended up at Cal and Georgia. Latimer didn't start the last four games, but he did average 28 mpg during that time - more than two of the starters. I saw about 30 of their games last year. Lots of talent. Latimer will do well at Bucknell - he was more of an afterthought (T-4th pts.) for the offense this year but he certainly will do well in the PL. I guess he sits next year and then plays two. And far as Ford goes, the kids seem to like him (beyond the usual playing time gripes here and there) although I personally thought they had the talent to do better late in the season. SBU does bring back a kid named Gueye who does some things on the court that have to be seen to be believed...plus they’ve picked up transfers so they should be just fine again next year.
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Post by southernsader on May 26, 2020 21:28:56 GMT -5
The other team I follow, Stony Brook, is also being smacked around by transfers. If you call six players including the top three scorers leaving a popular coach and a pretty good America East ( 20-13) team being smacked around. While two are grad transfers it is still a big loss. One undergrad, Miles Latimer (edged out of a starting role at SBU) is transferring to Bucknell and another (the star) is heading to Miami. So, we are certainly not alone. How about a scouting report on Garcia? Thanks.
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Post by hcpride on May 26, 2020 21:38:37 GMT -5
/\ Tough, smart, strong, crafty. To be honest when I heard he was heading to Georgia the first concern I had was height. Some similarities with Pridgen. He is 6’5” and I’m not sure how it’ll work out.
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Post by Tom on May 27, 2020 7:37:26 GMT -5
I do not care at all what you guys say or have said about me, but I will inform you that the team looks at this thread often, and some are effected negatively by what is said Probably worth adding that with all the turnover in the program, this continues to be a young team. A large percentage of the players are literally teenagers.
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Post by Tom on May 27, 2020 7:40:53 GMT -5
From a strictly basketball standpoint, Eastern Michigan seems like a better landing spot than UNC Wilmington.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on May 27, 2020 7:44:55 GMT -5
From a strictly basketball standpoint, Eastern Michigan seems like a better landing spot than UNC Wilmington. Would love to hear what makes you think this Tom, since this is hardly the case.
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Post by WorcesterGray on May 27, 2020 7:54:53 GMT -5
Sagarin had the MAC West significantly ahead of the CAA in2019-20, but prior to that their rankings have been pretty much indistinguishable.
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Post by Tom on May 27, 2020 8:04:12 GMT -5
I think the MAC is a better conference than the CAA
Recently neither school has been a gang buster in their conference, but I can recall at some point the three regional (East, West, Central) Michigan schools all being decent enough that you would hear about them. I can't remember ever hearing much about UNC Wilmington
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on May 27, 2020 8:08:41 GMT -5
Go ahead and directly compare UNCW to EMU the last handful of years and see what you get.
UNCW has had a lot more success in-conference than EMU. Been to NCAA tourney 6 times since last EMU appearance.
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Post by purplehaze on May 27, 2020 9:36:28 GMT -5
Both conferences are one-bid leagues so on that basis they're fairly equal and both UNCW and EMU are very average schools and a far cry from HC - that's another sad reality that 2 young men left our school for places that probably will not challenge them academically as HC would have. 'the grass is not always greener...'
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